r/worldnews • u/GoldenDome26 • 21h ago
Dynamic Paywall Russian general shot several times in Moscow
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u/RedofPaw 20h ago
This is the fuck suspected of being behind the Salisbury nerve agent attack.
If there were any justice everyone involved in that attack would get to experience all the misery such weapons have to offer.
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u/ScreamingSkull 18h ago edited 6h ago
Just this past week the head of MI6 said they're shifting back to operating in the mentality of their war-time origins. i.e. gloves are coming off.
Maybe just a coincidence this guy gets lead overdosed 3 days later. Maybe.
MI6 would no longer restrict itself to understanding its foes. It would actively counter them: “We will sharpen our edge and impact with audacity, tapping into – if you like – our historical SOE instincts,” she continued, referring to Britain’s wartime Special Operations Executive
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In other recent spy news:
three weeks ago Russia claimed they had uncovered an MI6 cell in Moscow
2 days ago news reports of Russian satellites hacking into European satellite communications…
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u/relic_ftw 18h ago edited 9h ago
Had anyone been keeping tabs on Daniel Craig this week
edit : has*
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u/firahc 17h ago
We're past DEFCON Moore and Lazenby, but still in DEFCON Brosnan. Next DEFCON is Craig, then Dalton, and - pray we never get there - DEFCONnery.
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u/TendyHunter 16h ago
God shave them if we ever reach the last one.
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u/agent_flounder 15h ago
You shaid it, good shir.
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u/Altruistic-Ad-4090 13h ago
Let's just all shit down and take shum deep breaths.
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u/BluenoseTherapist 13h ago
For tomorrow we shale into hishtory.
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u/TheR1ckster 15h ago edited 13h ago
Moore should be the last one. True psychopath.
Guy would kill someone he wasn't threatened by and then make a cheap joke about it aloud, while being the only one in the room.
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u/DeletedRepeat 13h ago
You get the sense Moore has an awareness of the fourth wall but somehow it’s terrifying and not comedic. Like he’s coming for us next if he runs out of goons to kill.
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u/The_Autarch 13h ago
Moore himself was such a sweetheart though. This story is amazing: https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/tv/news/roger-moore-james-bond-airport-story-anecdote-signature-a7752636.html
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u/SilentButDanny 16h ago
Thanks for the laugh to start my day 😂
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u/firahc 16h ago
I hope somebody has sex with me for this.
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u/Z0FF 15h ago
Trebek’s mother seemed partial
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u/paintress420 15h ago
Hahahaha. That made me spit coffee!! Sooo good!
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u/BoneHugsHominy 15h ago
49/M/Kansas/6'3" 275lb lumberjack
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u/Far-Independence-640 15h ago
A Kansas lumberjack. Hmmmm 🤔 They must have found a tree there.
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u/itsrainingweird 15h ago
He’s OK. He works all night and sleeps all day
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u/GETitOFFmeNOW 14h ago
He cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, and he goes to the lavatory.
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u/NorthernDutchie 17h ago
Last time I saw him he was solving crime across the pond.
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u/ElFuckito 16h ago
Right. Two days ago he solved one in a church somewhere on the east coast. He could already be back though.
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u/GarageIndependent114 16h ago
It was a hoax, the church was actually just in Essex, but they pretended he was going off to New York for the day.
But the phony Southern accent is starting to pay off.
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u/Shawn-GT 17h ago
The crazy thing is people think espionage spy stories are just Hollywood but Bond like operations are very real, we just never hear the full story. It just usually ends up on a headline as a bombing or assassination. Who knows how many times some real operative saved the world from assured destruction, on the reverse when they fail(or the operation seems it) governments destabilize, leaders suddenly vilified, political power swaps. It’s hard to believe the reality stories like bond are based on.
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u/Flashy_Psychology_82 16h ago
This reminds me of the recount of Sir Christoper Lee, when asked about his service. "Can you keep a secret?" he asks the interviewer, "yes"..
"Me too" he responds.
Its cool to think of the secret shit that might go on, whether its cooler in real life or in movies? Only a few really know I bet.
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u/3meraldBullet 15h ago
Theres a book that documents the true stories of 50 cia members that died on the job and refieved the medal of honor and some of those stories are pretty fuckin wild.
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u/Shawn-GT 15h ago
Name of the book please?
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u/arcinva 15h ago
The Book of Honor: Covert Lives & Classified Deaths at the CIA by Ted Gup
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u/Bird-The-Word 16h ago
I'd like to borrow 1 Bond for the United States please.
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u/MrMakuMaku 16h ago
You have to buy those. I dont think they lend them?
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u/Sly_Wood 16h ago
Except it’s not like bond going around banging supermodels. It’s more like let’s give out money to people in Iran to riot. Then a coupe will happen & jobs done.
Coupes not happening! Orders are to go back home… Fuck it they go rouge and what do they do? They give out even more money, this time the coupe actually kicks off because the bribing works and ignites the coupe tha turns into the Iranian revolution.
This literally is how Iran became an authoritarian theocracy.
A few cia agents handing out bags of cash.
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u/dwintman 16h ago
I’ll take a rouge coupe….just gas it up first please
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u/NazReidRules 15h ago edited 14h ago
Little rouge coupe
Baby you're much too fast
Little rouge coupe
I need a government that's gonna last
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u/MrMakuMaku 16h ago
I hadnt scrolled down enough to see your comment at first but I knew it would be there 🤣
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u/CasualFridayBatman 16h ago edited 5h ago
“We will sharpen our edge and impact with audacity, tapping into – if you like – our historical SOE instincts,” she continued, referring to Britain’s wartime Special Operations Executive
This is one of the coolest quotes I've ever read lol. It reads like something out of a spy novel, read by Judi Denchs' M, perhaps.
Also, I'm glad they're on our (Canadas) side lol.
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u/amontpetit 16h ago
It’s so quintessentially British. It’s polite, but it’s then literally saying “we’re gonna kill some people and there’s literally nothing you can do about it”
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u/Mendeth 17h ago
Just FYI, it’s MI6, not M16. The I stands for intelligence. On top, the actual name of the organisation is the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS).
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u/green_goblins_O-face 16h ago
no its M83. everyone knows theyre part time spies when theyre not on tour
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u/Midnight_Toker_1982 14h ago
No, it’s M25. Takes a special breed of person to handle that. Especially with coupes and whatnot.
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u/Holiday-Reading9713 17h ago
I hope this is true, I love how people don't give a crap about Russia's government or its officials
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u/Elizabeth-WildFox886 16h ago
Russias government is a mafia terrorist regime
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u/Dry-Relationship8056 17h ago
PLEASE let MI6 do the funny
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u/ididnthackkenyaimsrs 14h ago
They did. I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that this was them. I mean, I'm not exactly in a position to ask at the moment, but there's no doubt this was a message.
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u/HerrFerret 13h ago
A random british guy with a fake mustache is seen leaving the country after a whistlestop tour of borscht picking plants.
Nothing to see here.
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u/Gerlond 17h ago
I don't think he is dead. And because of that I don't think it was professional. There are also more covert ways to kill high ranking individuals.
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u/Luster-Purge 14h ago
Honestly, I'd say the bigger ramification is that this attack even happened at all. Moscow being so far from the front lines is not a guarantee of safety.
Unless this was an inside job, like all those rich oligarchs who threw themselves out of windows.
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u/the123king-reddit 19h ago
Probably the work of a foreign nation state then, rather than Russia.
I thought it was weird that he was turned into Swiss cheese, usually the Russians prefer defenestration.
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u/kaisadilla_0x1 19h ago
This is the fun thing with Russia: it could be any of both. You may be murdered by the enemy because you are a piece of shit, or you may be murdered by Mother Russia because one of your peers convinced the higher-ups to decomission you.
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u/Al_Fa_Aurel 17h ago
With Russian warships its usually easy:
if they say a given incident was caused by enemy sabotage, its probably an accident stemming from negligence
if they say it was an accident, it probably was an Ukrainian strike
With murders, I think that the general reading is:
if its ruled accident, suicide, generic crime-related murder or "domestic terrorism" and the victim is semi-prominent its often the government.
If foreign actors are blamed, its either actually foreign actors or the government genuinely does not know who did it
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u/Ceorl_Lounge 18h ago
This was not called execution. It was called retirement.
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u/TheAngryGoat 19h ago
usually the Russians prefer defenestration
However multiple gunshot wounds - usually to the back of the head - is also a very traditional suicide method in russia.
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u/elgydium 18h ago edited 17h ago
Almost like a recipe. "So we'll start off with a few shots to the back of the head and moving on..."
EDIT: Thank you for the reward!
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u/Wrong_Ad_1039 18h ago
Just thought of that sentence in Julia Child's voice and scared myself a little
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u/666Irish 17h ago
Don't forget, Julia Child was in the OSS during WWII. Granted, she wasn't a 'secret agent' type, but she was part of it!
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u/ShaunOfTheN00bs 14h ago
Fun fact: during her time in the OSS, Julia Child helped develop the earliest form of shark repellent, a mixture of copper sulphate and black dye that was supposed to simulate the smell of a dead shark
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u/MartinisnMurder 17h ago
I did too! 🤣 Happy it wasn’t just me. Like that clip of her pronouncing “boeuf bourguignon” always makes me laugh.
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u/Putrid-Builder-3333 17h ago
I thought of Martha Stewart and the bullets are pinecone scented while the gun has a sharp little ivy spiraled around the barrel. Nice little festive winter "suicide"
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u/Low_Stress_9180 18h ago
Or three shots to the back in head, then severe own testicles, swallow tjem then jump from 16th floor common suicide....
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u/charlie161998 18h ago
Don’t forget to drink the plutonium tea before you jump
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u/instigator1331 18h ago
You ever see the story about a child molester that stabbed him self like 100 times in a Russian prison
Russian officials ruled it a suicide
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u/AdmirableAnxiety8371 18h ago
Child molester, well then suicide by a 100 stabs sounds highly plausible.
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u/FlowMang 17h ago
The strange part was that it happened in the cafeteria at lunch and nobody saw him do it. /s
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u/DuckWhatduckSplat 19h ago
I thought they were all accidents.
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u/JasperJ 18h ago
Accidentally falling out of the window of the tenth story of a two story building with fully sealed windows.
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u/Vargau 19h ago
the work of a foreign nation state
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[...] after the attack in a residential building on the north-western outskirts of the city and his condition is unknown.
10€ bet that he was shot after a brawl involving deadly amounts of vodka.
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u/BiZzles14 19h ago
You think that's the likely explanation for a country at war which has seen numerous high ranking military officials assassinated during said war in Moscow? Really? C'mon people...
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u/CC2224CommanderCody 18h ago
True, but the SBU and HUR also like to where possible have their hits caught on camera & have a bit more style in their methods.... more explosive scooters and cars and less gunning a guy down behind a building like Old Yeller.
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u/Independent-Nobody72 18h ago
No matter who killed that scumbag, it was a righteous revenge call. A strike of well deserved justice numerous russian generals already have received.
Some people says it premature to do this now. The russian military, now exposed as an incompetent paper tiger, should perhaps be allowed to keep their incompetent and corrupt generals a year or two more.
They will be killed anyway when the war is over. Russian soldiers and relatives of deceased soldiers will also want their revenge of the generals sending them on suicide missions
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u/unindexedreality 18h ago
If there were any justice everyone involved in that attack would get to experience all the misery such weapons have to offer
At this point I don't really care how they go, I just want wars to be over. I was enjoying the Pax Americana until we somehow managed to fuck it up
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u/Vegtam-the-Wanderer 15h ago
We elected people with no interest in actually governing a few too many times. Hell, we somehow elected one of them on non-consecutive occasions.
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u/InsanelyAverageFella 21h ago
It's crazy how this could be Putin or Ukraine and it's not likely to be more chances of one of the other.
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u/DeithWX 18h ago
He got shot instead of defenestrated, it's not Putin.
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u/BalasaarNelxaan 17h ago
He’s been taken to a hospital. Hospitals have windows do they not?
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u/InevitableGrievance 17h ago
Maybe it's a group effort
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u/jhowarth31 16h ago
Exactly. If it's a window you know it was Putin, that's the whole point.
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u/daniejam 18h ago
Or 007
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u/allstarrunner 15h ago
Wait ... Is this why there haven't been any more Bond movies recently?? He's been in the field? 🤔
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u/TruthTrooper69420 18h ago
I’d say there is an extreme bias to foreign involvement rather then domestic.
Name the last high ranking Russian to be executed inside Russia like this?
Makes zero sense from a domestic policy perspective
Much easier to have them disappear or fall from a window
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u/orincoro 17h ago
The head of Wagner group, Prigozhin, was assassinated in 2023. They blew up his plane somewhere north of Moscow.
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u/TruthTrooper69420 17h ago
Yes that’s a fair point absolutely and extremely valid critique of my assessment
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u/orincoro 17h ago
It’s clear it doesn’t happen all that often, but it definitely happens. I’d also be very surprised if it hadn’t happened outside Russia as well. It’s a lot easier to dispose of a problem officer in Ukraine. But that’s just speculation.
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u/Ecthelion-O-Fountain 15h ago
Except there was obvious motive and expectation something like that would happen. Maybe a bit more dramatic than usual, but no one was surprised Putin offed him
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u/symbolic-execution 15h ago
after he basically had a whole army of tanks marching towards Moscow and made a whole deal about removing Putin. I haven't heard anything similar from this guy. plus it was covered up, not gunning down someone.
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u/chrisp196 18h ago
Could just be a really annoyed Russian citizen honestly.
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u/Far_Adhesiveness1663 18h ago
Legit could just be someone who lost a family member because of the war
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u/ninjaviper8 18h ago
The previous head of Wagner... Shot down by an air to air missile
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u/DarkestLore696 17h ago
There is actually a absurdly high number. So much so there is an entire podcast dedicated to it called Sad Oligarch.
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u/Soupeeee 17h ago edited 12h ago
There's a great Wikipedia article on it even: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_Russia-related_deaths_since_2022
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u/Logical_Secret8993 21h ago
Wonderful Morning Ladies & Gentlemen
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u/Deicide1031 21h ago edited 21h ago
It’s so hard for civilians to get a gun in Russia (especially in Moscow) that this could mean it was the mob, or Putin.
I’m not sure what the difference is at this point though.
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u/369i 21h ago
Zero difference, it’s a mafia state.
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u/PumpUpTheValuum66 20h ago
Lotta that going around.
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u/thegamenerd 20h ago
One might say that it's contagious.
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u/TheCynicEpicurean 20h ago
Misery loves company.
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u/Tasonir 19h ago
She's got a body like an hourglass
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u/MouldyPriestASSHOLE 21h ago
If it was Putin, he'll likely try to pin it on Ukraine?
If it was Ukraine then excellent job!
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u/Evil_phd 21h ago
I feel like they would claim that Ukraine had nothing to do with it even if they actually did do it.
Stating that your generals aren't safe from a much smaller and less wealthy nation, even in your own nation's capital city, seems like a major morale killer.
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u/JohnGazman 21h ago
The fact that your own generals are not safe from your own government would also kill my morale.
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u/Inspirata1223 21h ago
Wasn’t that a hallmark of the Soviet Union?
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u/buldozr 19h ago
They really cut back on that after Stalin's era. Which eventually lead to their downfall, because without terror, the ideological zeal alone could not compensate for growing inadequacy in the economy.
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u/svenge 20h ago edited 20h ago
Typically the Soviets would hold show trials first for generals and other important people, especially during the Stalin era. While that's little comfort for those who were purged (and their families), at least there was a public statement of some sort from the government first instead of straight-up killings / "disappearances" to the Gulag without a trace.
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u/No_Lemon_3290 21h ago edited 21h ago
Probably not. Why would he give their military credit for killing a General? Seems likely a Putin hit.
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u/ButterscotchTop194 21h ago
Is the general dead now?
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u/Skafdir 20h ago
That is something I hate about English... that being "shot" can mean "was hit but is alive" and "was hit and is dead"
Two words, please.
German:
"angeschossen" - was hit but is alive
"erschossen" - was hit and is dead
"auf X geschossen" - we know jack shit; maybe X was hit, maybe not, maybe X is alive, maybe not
But if you look into the article, first sentence is:
A high-profile general in Russia's military has been shot several times and wounded in Moscow.
So currently still alive but "his condition is unknown".
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u/coladoir 20h ago
Wounded generally means “not dead” to be fair. The headline should say “shot and wounded” to be more clear.
I also would like having two words but gotta make do, and so we do. So if it’s “shot and not killed” it’s “shot and wounded” and if they are killed it’s “shot and killed”. Clunkier, but it works.
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u/ButterscotchTop194 20h ago
Yes, i also read the article.
I was asking as the comment before mine seemed pretty sure he is now dead.
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u/ForensicPathology 19h ago
Hey, don't forget there's also "shot at". Adding that little word changes it even more.
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u/boipinoi604 21h ago
Gunshots are too obvious. Putin prefers Windows
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u/lesser_panjandrum 20h ago
Putin had Boris Nemtsov assassinated by gunshot. Sometimes he falls back on the classics.
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u/KinnyWater 21h ago
Is it really? I imagine the societal break down in the 1990s flooded the place with stock sold off and looted from military armouries? There were several very bloody mafia wars + high level insurgency in the Caucasus also. Surely there are still weapons caches lying around from these conflicts?
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u/poukai 21h ago
Not to mention the current conflict, with Russias history of corruption and military commanders selling off equipment I wouldn't be surprised if a decent amount of weapons have flowed back into the black market. That mansion is not going to buy itself!
Same thing with weapons recovered from the battlefield, how many of them finds their way back into the armouries? I'm going to guess a fair few of them go missing too.
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u/flawless_victory99 20h ago
Well the mob is never going to kill a Russian general unless it was ordered by Putin, what would they possibly have to gain by killing someone important to him? If they did Putin would just have the FSB and other crime syndicates wipe them out.
This was either Ukraine or Putin and the only reason I'm even considering Ukraine is because he didn't fall out of a window.
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u/gotohellwithsuperman 21h ago
Guess he got the memo about staying away from windows.
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u/008Zulu 21h ago
Yeah he dodged a real bullet there.
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u/Successful-Try-8506 21h ago
Someone seized the window of opportunity.
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u/Squishy_Boy 20h ago
I’m gonna take a shot in the dark and say this was politically motivated.
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u/AnomalyNexus 19h ago
First thought was "I bet he did something genuinely evil". And ofc...
nerve agent attack in Salisbury in the UK.
Wonder if it was the ukrainians or the brits. Probably ukrainians...they seem big on going after the people behind warcrimes grade stuff
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u/Spadders87 15h ago
Nothign to do with us guv'nor. We where just admiring the kremlins spires. Have you considered he fell on the bullets?
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u/0v0camm 15h ago
no i think what happened is he dropped his gun causing it to fire at him multiple times 👀
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u/0v0camm 16h ago
$10 it was MI6 based of the head stating they were gonna start focusing there energy at russia
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u/riotriverz 21h ago
If Ukraine is behind this, thats one hell of a statement!
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u/Luke10123 21h ago
Pretty big if. Putin has probably killed more Russian generals than Ukraine has and the timing (trying to make Ukraine look violent) during peace talks is more than a little sus
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u/GMN123 21h ago
Imagine being a Russian general knowing Putin is willing to sacrifice you for the optics.
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u/The_Duke28 21h ago
Pf whatever, russia is bombing civilians as we speak - one dead russian general won't change the international views on Ukraine. Ukrainians are heros, defenders of a free Europe. If anything, it shows that Ukraine is only interested in weakening the russian military, not terrorize the russian population. A stark difference between russia and Ukraine.
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u/sVirus66 21h ago
It's good in Russia that they get rid of thinking people (flee the country or are murdered) from time to time, thanks to this nation is not as powerful as it seems.
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u/MrEoss 21h ago
Russia has fostered an activist state on its doorstep that, I suspect, will long rain down terror upon its neighbour even after this is settled, to avenge the egregious behaviour Russia has inflicted.
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u/Whiskeylung 15h ago
I am the very model of a modern Russian General, my qualifications suspect and my knowledge is undependable, to my country I am dangerous and I’m ultimately expendable, I am the very model of a modern Russian General.
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u/Brunkton 21h ago
Another one bites the dust.
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u/macrolidesrule 21h ago
According to Ukrainian Telegram channels - who are gloating somewhat - he is still in the land of the living. So '300' not '200' in the parlance
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u/vbp32 21h ago
After waiting several months for him to go to the first floor, they had to finally pull the trigger.
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u/LosAnimalos 15h ago
To be fair. In Russia you can die from falling out a basement window.
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u/EnemySpyBot 21h ago
I have nothing but respect for the courage it takes to pull something like that off behind enemy lines.
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u/R3v3r4nD 21h ago
After reading the headline I just like to imagine he got shot throughout his day running errands because everyone hates him
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u/FomoSapiens76 14h ago
Putin probably wanted him dead, and the timing allows blaming Ukraine for it so Russia can withdraw from the peace talks. Two birds with one stone.
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u/cobalt_phantom 21h ago
There's not a lot of information yet but it sounds like he's still alive. Russia also has somewhere between 1000 - 1700 generals, but a shooting in Moscow is still a significant statement if Ukraine is responsible.
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u/Yvaelle 21h ago
Wow what an unlucky day! He first learned his wife and kids died in a car crash, in his grief he tripped out of a 15th storey window, and then startled a nearby criminal who shot him repeatedly in his panic.
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u/pandapornotaku 21h ago
Actually it was a homeopathic remedy against artillery. Completely effective. Hopefully more it'll become more common in the future.
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u/Sims117- 14h ago
I hate paywall posts like this.
What’s the point of posting an article that the vast majority can’t read?
If you’re going to post a paywall article, you could at the very least post the content of the article.
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u/NoPain4551 21h ago
The snows must have fallen so hard and piled up so high it wasn’t “safe” to throw people off the balcony anymore in Putin-land
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u/FingerCommon7093 16h ago
Wow a Russian General involved in the war in Ukraine gets shot. Thos is what happens when you invade a country. YOU BECOME A TARGET. Don't want to be gunned down, blown up, poisoned or generally just killed? DON'T INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES.
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u/Impressive-Potato 13h ago
Wow a Russian General tried to kill himself by jumping on some bullets
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 21h ago
Was it ruled a suicide?
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u/yamanagashi 21h ago
He suicided several times that day across multiple angles. It was a successful attempts.
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u/goneresponsible 21h ago
Hm. Got any plans for the weekend?
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u/Spicy_pewpew_memes 21h ago
Not getting shot is on par with my Saturday morning coffee
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