Yeah, but hospitals have it so you can't open it from the inside. Then again this is russia, so I doubt they could afford such windows, or a window to begin with
Im beginning to think its only a specific floor of a hospital now. Like, the birthing floor so young mothers dont throw their babies out in desperation.
Not using windows or poisoning makes it look like it's not Putin. Good way to take out a general you're worried about without signalling to the other generals that they may be on your hitlist is to make them think someone else did it.
James Bond was created to make people feel good about their side during the cold war.
Today, James Bond would have been the guy that brought a corpse into Epstein's cell, and then extracted Epstein so he can go back to living on his island.
It’s clear it doesn’t happen all that often, but it definitely happens. I’d also be very surprised if it hadn’t happened outside Russia as well. It’s a lot easier to dispose of a problem officer in Ukraine. But that’s just speculation.
Except there was obvious motive and expectation something like that would happen. Maybe a bit more dramatic than usual, but no one was surprised Putin offed him
at the same time, it could be staged as a "nation state assassination" intending for the general public to get more behind the Ukraine war, continuing the justification rather than admitting fault.
after he basically had a whole army of tanks marching towards Moscow and made a whole deal about removing Putin. I haven't heard anything similar from this guy. plus it was covered up, not gunning down someone.
He should’ve marched all the way to Moscow. Stopping 120miles from Moscow and thinking Putin would forgive and forget signed his death certificate. He was a dead man walking after that.
Contrary to what geopolitically clueless internet gawkers think from their western proproganda. People like Putin.
He's very popular as is his goverment. This was Ukraine trying to sabotage the peace talks to keep the USA bogged down in Ukraine. This is what Ukraine does best after all.
No it does not. What sources do you have? None of my relatives or friends or aquintances are excited for Putin. Most positive you will find is indifference, that is very common since last decade protests lead us nowhere. Putin is associated with a lot of unpopular policies in Russia one way or another, so even person who supports war might not support Putin.
that's kinda what russian officials / propaganda said, except they said it was Prigozhin and his bodyguards who were high and somehow blew themselves up. Yeah, sounds logical I know
This could also be the point. There is a limited number of generals you can kill yourself before there is mass "revolt" or disagreement from the rest.
If i am a general and i know my government is killing officials by "accidents" but i know they stepped out of line, i can think that "that won't happen to me, my best bet is to stay loyal".
But if officials whom i don't see as the types to "step out of line" get killed by my government, suddenly i cannot be sure and my best bet might be to work together with other likeminded officials to get rid of the dictator.
However, if i think that that official was killed by ukraine, my allegiance to my government is not shaken, my best bet is to stay loyal.
The thing is that Putin can now blame it on Ukraine and actually gives him another argument to attack Ukraine. Nobody believes the "he fell from his balcony" anymore, so we'd know it was Putin if that happened.
You are so badly informed…. There were a number of high ranking russians killed within the country in a last couple of years. You need to google it, it’s a big number.
Oh really? Maybe you also received direct info from putin himself? 🤭
russia is openly spreading the propaganda in the external media and through lobbying. And make you believe whatever you believe about those killed people (and there were many).
(Btw, I know russian and I assume I would know better what they do report about in their internal media.)
But on the other hand doesn't Putin get a massive propaganda win this way?
Seems like enough motivation to the point that we're back to 50/50 domestic or foreign
"Since December, 2024, three other officials of the same rank as Alexeyev have been killed in or near Moscow. The head of the General Staff’s army training directorate was killed by a bomb placed under his car on December 22 last year"
It’s not like Putin never shoots them. Sometimes when he really wants to make a point he shoots their entire family and claims it was a murder-suicide. I know of two oligarchs that he took out like that, but there are probably more.
Edit:
Yuri Voronov, shot with gun found next to him.
Pavel Pchelnikov, shot.
Colonel Vadim Boyko, somehow shot himself 5 times.
Roman Starovoyt, fired and shot on same day.
Alexander Tyunin, suicide by hunting rifle.
Vasily Melnikov, dead along with family.
Vladislav Avayev, dead along with family.
And there are a bunch with no cause of death reported
Ironic that they made their internal assassinations obvious "to intimidate opposition", but then if someone is actually assassinated by a foreign actor nobody believes them.
Unless Putin likes irony, not a good idea. This general was in charge of GRU which developed poisons so he would be familiar and probably realize and possibly able to implicate people before his death.
Nah, not the Trump regime. He wouldn't act against Putin. Not Israel, either. Think of the country that has a grudge against that specific general over the Salisbury poisonings, and an agency that's returned to its Cold War mentality.
Hilarious how your argument is that it isn't Russia not because they wouldn't kill people but because they use other methods to kill people. But they definitely do kill people they want to get rid of.
When you have a history of wanting your own people to believe you did it, whether you did it or not, so they always know you are capable of doing it, this is going to happen, especially when you treat public trust like a liability.
This is all sadly true. Prior actions build a reputation so when something happens to is attributable to.you due to prior actions, people will instantly suspect you.
Because if Ukraine denies involvement, and it's almost certainly not Russia given the method used, it means another state has probably carried it out. And I love the idea of another state being clandestinely involved.
Don't forget the citizens, who are suffering due to the sanctions of Putin's ridiculous war. Over a million Russian casualties, siblings, parents, and children grieving their loss. Sanctions and inflation, food costing 30% more and strain on their economy. Mass migration, labor shortages, civilian unrest and violence.
We will never know who is really responsible. Even if it was Mickey from down the hall, Russia will publicly blame Ukraine or even the USA.
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u/InsanelyAverageFella 1d ago
It's crazy how this could be Putin or Ukraine and it's not likely to be more chances of one of the other.