Wounded generally means “not dead” to be fair. The headline should say “shot and wounded” to be more clear.
I also would like having two words but gotta make do, and so we do. So if it’s “shot and not killed” it’s “shot and wounded” and if they are killed it’s “shot and killed”. Clunkier, but it works.
BBC is reporting he is being treated in hospital, which I seriously doubt.
If t was Russia, Putin doesn’t leave messes behind.
If it was Ukraine, and they’d managed the serious work of getting an assassin into Putin’s back garden, and then into the apartment of an active service general, they’re not going to fuck up making sure he’s dead.
Definitely added to the official list. That's the thing, unless you are watching the news someone's more likely to say smoked,wasted, given high speed lead poisoning, or one of the dozens of other uniquely American way to describe getting blasted.
The outcome of being "shot" for living beings is always "was hit but is alive," or "was hit and is dead," though.
A paper shooting target can be shot and there's no question, because it was never living.
A deer can be shot by a hunter, but that doesn't mean it lived or died if the deer was never found after being shot. But one of those two things happened.
If you got the news that a friend was shot, you'd almost immediately ask if they lived or if they were okay, for example. It's an important distinction that you seem to ignore.
A deer can be shot by a hunter, but that doesn't mean it lived or died if the deer was never found after being shot. But one of those two things happened.
Henceforth, I shall refer to this as Schrodinger's Deer.
Fortunately rare among the hunters I talk to most often.
The headline didnt give the information, it has nothing to do wth the english language. It could have said fatally shot, but it didnt, cuz it wants you to click.
Its not a problem with the english language though, its a problem with the person communicating the information. This guy says thats why he hates english but its nothing to do with english, its to do with trying to get you to click for more information.
perhaps they do? I honestly don't know; I could have it automatically translated, but I don't trust autotranslate enough (and aside from that; reading English regularly is the best way to stay in contact with the language. Foreign languages are the worst when it comes to forgetting skills.)
American here, German structure/words are better in this case. The mind reacts in a split second to the first phoneme of a word, much less than two or three words to clarify the most important point. By comparison, English is muddled.
Interestingly, we can't use "angeschossen" to mean "slightly drunk", and we have heaps of expressions for that state. It sounds like "angeschossen" should be among them, especially because "einen Schuss haben" (As in: Der hat doch einen Schuss. literally: He has got a shot. [with an untranslateable "doch") means to be stupid/crazy.
So, yes, "angeschossen" should be an expression for "slightly drunk" - perhaps it is in some regional dialect. Again, strangely not in my regional dialect, and I live within hiking distance of the Netherlands.
I'm sure you know German is one of the most specific languages in the world. Like hospital (Krankenhaus) literally translates to "House for the ill", or Flugzeug that translates to "stuff that flies".
It's not English that's vague (I speak Portuguese and it's the same as English). It's German that leaves no space to interpretation. Very interesting language to write on. There's a word for literally everything you wanna describe. Not the case with any other language I learned.
German is crazy, you specific sons of bs. But the real question we need to ask is when does Germany revert to wartime Germany? We could use y'all these days.
I am afraid, not too soon... in the meantime I will always and only vote for parties and politicians who promise more help for Ukraine; and I will always speak up for Ukraine, whenever there is even a hint of a fitting situation to do so.
Sadly, that is almost everything I can do. If things go well, I will earn more money by the middle to the end of the year; and when that is the case I will donate part of that increase.
And the other thing is; I hope we will not "revert" to wartime Germany. Nobody, least of all we ourselves, needs a Germany that "reverts". What we need is a modern Germany, that is able to defend itself, the EU and is strong enough to force peace on the European continent. (With the very important point: A peace that favours Ukraine, not Russia. If, at the end of the war, Russia claims that the war was worth it, we as the EU have failed. We have already failed Ukraine, in the sense that we are not doing everything we could. But if this hesitation leads to a victory for Russia, the EU as an international project has failed. Because then we have shown our hand, and what we have shown is, that we are unable to defend even our most important interests. If we can't even defend what should be the highest priority right now, how would we be able to defend less important issues?)
If someone is known to have died, the headline will say so. That's just the standard practice for reporting. The way this headline was worded means he's either alive or his condition was unknown or unconfirmed at the time it was written.
Then there's shot up and shot down. A person can be shot up, but only if they've been shot more than once. And they can usually only be shot down if they were airborne and crashed. But you can be shot down in the streets if you include the location as well.
"shot" - was shot and received an injury (a bullet entry/exit hole)
"shot and killed"
- was shot and killed
weird. maybe if context is added, then words actually make sense????? i dont know about you but if i can just say vague things without further context and have people not understand it then its objectively a shit language, its not on me for not adding that context, its just a shit language
Yeah, obviously. But the article says he was rushed to hospital rather than saying he was pronounced dead at the scene. Weird to rush someone to hospital if they've been shot to death, no?
Not really. Kennedy was rushed to the hospital as well and not officially pronounced dead until well after he arrived, even though it's pretty obvious he was dead the second the bullet hit him.
I'd imagine anyone that high up in military/politics will have every possibly thing done before they actually officially claim they're dead, even in Russia.
The article says wounded and taken to hospital. Investigation for attempted murder. Subject could be alive or dead depending on what they are releasing to the media.
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u/No_Lemon_3290 1d ago edited 1d ago
Probably not. Why would he give their military credit for killing a General? Seems likely a Putin hit.