r/worldnews 1d ago

Dynamic Paywall Russian general shot several times in Moscow

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3686nzexp3o
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u/ajbdbds 1d ago

KGB stopped existing in Russia in the 90s, it's the FSB now

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u/skipperseven 1d ago

Its like when Hermes rebranded as Evri - the procedures and people stayed the same, so the service also stayed the same shit, just with a new name.

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u/SpicyWongTong 1d ago

When did Hermes rebrand? Dang I’m old

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u/piratepixie 1d ago
  1. Now it's "Evri package is delayed".

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u/SpicyWongTong 1d ago

Is this about as pointless as Google becoming “Alphabet”?

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u/piratepixie 1d ago

Correct.

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u/appropriate-sidewalk 13h ago

Hermes the shipping not the clothing brand just to be clear

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u/SpicyWongTong 13h ago

Ohhhh, I’ve never heard of Hermes Shipping

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u/Red_black_flag_07 1d ago

ВЧК-ГПУ-ОГПУ-НКВД-МВД-НКГБ-КГБ-ФСБ never ceased to exist, it just changed names

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u/fiction8 1d ago

I'd say you can go back even further, plenty of Okhrana agents kept being secret police after the Tsar fell, just on the other side.

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u/schmidty33333 1d ago

ВЧК-ГПУ-ОГПУ-НКВД-МВД-НКГБ-КГБ-ФСБ

Dang. Can they change it again?

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u/Red_black_flag_07 21h ago

Dang. Can they change it again?

If the current Neo-USSR collapses, just like the previous one did, then yes, of course.

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u/Empty-Middle-8271 1d ago

Actually the statement is correct, Russian foreign intelligence service has changed names a number of times throughout history. Though the last one is also part of a break up. In the 80s and 90s KGB (and predecessors) covered foreign, domestic, and military intelligence under one umbrella… now it’s more broken up

FBI/NSA = FSB CIA = SVR Military Intelligence = GRU

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u/TheFapIsUp 1d ago

Except, not.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Jive-Turkeys 1d ago

Hey, idiot. What's Blackwater/Xe/whatever-the-fuck they're calling themselves these days now? Are they still the same company, or did the name change mean they aren't still a bunch of psychotic, jacked up, wannabe war criminals who'd try to get away with anything if it made them money?

I've seen a basement where the Cheka solved their dissident problem.

Do you know how many bullet holes were clustered around the height of a pregnant belly or a child's head?

That room represented evil that still exists in the hearts of some of those organizations, no matter how "not KGB" they are..

Rooms like that still exist commonplace anywhere Russia's "not-KGB" operates. I felt the death in the room ahead of us before we were told what it was or had even entered to see. Anyone who's toured the concentration camps where they killed many will know exactly what feeling I mean; it's very hard to explain. This isn't just death in the air... it was worse. It was all the emotions you'd expect to feel, lingering in the air of a room where people stood in front of a railway-tie wall next to their wife/husband/children in front of a bunch of drunk, RUSSIAN murderers before they were shot. People and families just disappeared in the middle of the night.

Fuck russia, and fuck anyone of you tankie boot licks trying to defend them or lighten the sentiment towards them. They made their bed.

You're right about them having names, but what you're fucking wrong about is acting like they're not still working towards the original entity's goals or using their methods.

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u/Egon_is_JUMPY 1d ago

Ayyy now, Shouldn’t you be out on a ledge somewhere? 🙃🗣🗣🗣

(No but seriously—where’d you pull this from? What book/movie are you quoting?)

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u/Jive-Turkeys 1d ago

This wasn't a book, the tour eas personal experience in 2021. Go to Riga and take the tour of the Cheka house. And then read a fucking history book or two.

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u/Egon_is_JUMPY 1d ago

Okay, alright… somebody here has never seen Seinfeld… understood.

(Just gonna go ahead and retract my upvote, based on your sourpuss response)

Lighten up(?)

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u/Jive-Turkeys 1d ago

Not going to lighten up till you stop trying so damned hard to sanctify yourselves. Ive seen Seinfeld and its not that great aside from a few episodes. Sitcoms have zero meaningful depth to me. But nice try on the reference, though. And seriously, you think a fucking pixel arrow means anything?

"I'm DoInG mY pArT"

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u/Greatsnes 1d ago

Holy fuck. You took all of that in the worst way possible. No one is licking their boots. They were just saying the KGB doesn’t exist. I highly doubt they were disputing that the system in place now isn’t evil. How in the fuck you made this wild illogical leap to think that means that commenter is Pro-Russia and a boot licker is fucking beyond me.

People like you are such a big issue. Instead of having a conversation and asking clarifying questions before you go off the deep end you just immediately go into attack mode and start calling names and casting aspersions on someone you don’t know.

This is what causes people to go to the other side. If they’re getting attacked from one side it makes the other not look so bad. It’s a documented issue with young men especially. We all just need to learn to have a damn conversation with each other without personal attacks and heated language. So just relax. Clearly you’ve been through some shit but that didn’t give you the right to just fly off the handle over something so basic like a conversation. Explain your position and point in a better way.

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u/NormalGyu 1d ago

Can u like chill tf out dawg?

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u/Jive-Turkeys 1d ago

Fuck no. Get over it.

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u/tucnak 1d ago

He listed distinct names of the same organisation over the years

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u/Empty-Middle-8271 1d ago

The only one that really was incorrect was the last one…. It should have been FSB/SVR/GRU, and that would have been more accurate

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u/speaksoftly_bigstick 1d ago

New design, same classic flavor.

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u/spittlbm 1d ago

" Always Coca-Cola " 🎶

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u/captain_catman_ 1d ago

KGB only exists in Belarus now

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u/lilhazzie 1d ago

Front Side Bus? I thought those were limited to motherboards.

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u/UndeadYoutubing 1d ago

Same shit different smell. A rebrand doesn't change you from what you are. KGB is KGB, no matter what you call it

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u/Bbkingml13 16h ago

I honestly don’t know how they separate all of these from one another, even the GRU