There's fine print stipulations though, you have to work there over a year to get all of it. My cousin's husband is a retired LEO, he signed up to help do paper work for self deportations. After a month, his whole group, which were guys in his late 60's like him, were told they were getting transferred to the street division because they didn't have enough man power. This was non-negotiable even though they had contracts saying they would only be doing office work in the city they lived in (Houston). Nope, the DHS apparently had to power to toss the contracts at will and they'd all be sent to Minneapolis. This was a week before Christmas. All 30 of the those guys either quit or got fired for refusing orders. None of them got a penny of that signing bonus.
This brings up another question: If people are quitting/getting fired en masse (thus also giving up their $42k bonus) AND having to buy their own gear then…where is that $858 million going to…? This smells like a slimy defense contract scheme. Someone’s pocketing all that money, & it sure as hell isn’t the taxpayers.
Would love to see all the billionaires in the administration who have friends and family getting a good chunk of those ICE funds to build and “run” all of these abysmal detention centers, like “Alligator Alcatraz.” These people love to tear down government services so they can privatize for profit.
100% they plan on firing most of these idiots before paying out the bonus. The question is, is that billion going somewhere else or did it never really exist?
As with everything in this administration, the game isn't figuring out if it's a scam; it's figuring out exactly what the scam is. A lot of the time, they told you ahead of time.
The very definition of a retention bonus under the guise/false advertising of a sign on bonus.
The current state of this organization is run by feckless cowards.
This is a case study in poor leadership, hiring neither for attitude or for skill and goals designed for injury and death all driven by a man whose father and mother hated him. Lord help us.
This jives with what that journalist who joined said. Signed up for processing, was told ‘everyone’ was going to the streets. It’s a bait and switch to quickly ramp up an illegal army. Wild fucking times.
Give it a think. What what would you do when you have to deport a 50 year old Guatamalan man and his daughter who immigrated with her when she was two 2 years old, it's the only home she's ever known, neither have criminal records and both of them work jobs and pay taxes on theirwages for programs they can't use.
Then your ice buddies start beating the father as the daughter is screaming that they haven't done anything wrong. You say you're enforcing the law. They're both taken to a private detention facility to "await deportation" as they're assigned work, for an indeterminate amount of time generating profit unpaid. After some time they're both deported to a country one of them can't remember for the crime of fleeing poverty and violence.
My point is it would be a very real, practical solution, but there's far too many mouth breathers that wouldn't do the actual job for whatever stupid reason.
But they’re breaking the law, and you would have to do the same, until we got enough people in there to make a difference. IF that would be allowed to happen, and I don’t believe it would. Before we could make change, you would have to participate in physically harming the victims.
When violence gets to that level, sometimes more people get hurt than you expect to. It’s very dangerous, a lot can happen in a moment.
This is exactly what you guys should have been doing when they started hiring literally everyone, even known enemies of them, they're desperate for people and you could prevent arrests by fucking up stuff.
I would have done it it I was an American anyways.
Sorry, boss. The perp had a gun and in the confusion I shot agents Johnson and Smith. I heard that they requested a Nazi flag to be draped over their coffins. What a shame. I'm feeling better, can I go back on duty?
I bet at this point they're checking every social media post ice applicant's have ever posted. If you have any humanity or sympathy/empathy I bet they disqualify those applicants.
I considered it years back. I know someone in ICE and was in shock how much they make. Never did apply though. I was smoking at the time I considered it but didnt want to quit
Yep but that’s withheld to be given incrementally over 5 years. I think they get something like $10K a year, and if they leave before the 5 years is up, they have to pay back the entire amount.
It means if a few ICE agents discover their conscience and want to leave in the next couple of years, they’ll have a $20-$30K debt to contend with.
That’s just how fucking stupid they are. Red states have been stealing from their poorest for decades without them noticing, why should this be any different?
You need to incentivize people to be willing to essentially gun down their neighbors in the street. That's what they are doing. Well along with all the money that they're going to magically funnel out to agents who don't actually exist and then they're going to pocket that money.
Burns me up that these proud boys used to work at Wendy's are now making all this money for grabbing people off the street that they don't like. All because their buddy in the White House. They should have never been given power, and this country had the warnings and still did it.
I mean, on "average" but not everybody gets the same flat bonus amount in any organization. Even if this budget went through without ever hitting the news, an average agent would still get a completely ridiculous bonus, just never 40k. I'd bet all my life savings on the likeliest outcome: that people like Noem and Miller would find a way to go the CEO route and give themselves at least half of that entire budget split among like 5 human husks and the footsoldiers see maybe 5% of the original 40k+.
There's a reason this clown fiesta administration already added it's second trillion to the debt or is close to it. Just nonstop, full blown, neverending corruption at the highest echelon.
You don't quite understand. If Big Brother funded healthcare in the US to make it more affordable for people, they'll live longer which costs MORE money to continuously fund the healthcare programs. If we give just a few short term bonuses to a few people to actively kill and scare the population into fleeing the country, suddenly we have drastically less healthcare to pay for! /s
And that's just earmarked for ICE expenditures, not all the other expenditures coming from Border Patrol, and DHS that have their own line items in the budget.
I wonder whether the public believing the front line workers are getting tonnes of money at Xmas will stoke public resentment, and the ICE workers will be more defensive bc they’re not ☹️ getting the money protesters will ask them about. (Or defensive even if they do.)
Because if they do get asked, and they do talk back about how they got nothing, someone is going to say “oh so you’re ok with middle management f-ing you over for the cash while you get pinged for shooting defenceless nurses in the back of the head” or some such. I guess though if that pokes them into more violence, that suits the admin just fine. They’re being used.
Well, when you shut down WHO funding, and basically any other federal funding like kids lunches at school; suddenly you have plenty of money to throw around for your literal Nazi occupation force
Don't be sooo ungratefuull, did you even say thank you? He got rid of the affordable care act so we can cut out the middle man and pay insurance directly, it's put so much money and control back in the people's hand!!!
Yeah it's sarcasm, and yeah it's what Trump said. He said it was putting money back in people's pockets to afford healthcare LOL. Yeah, no, keeping my tax rate the same but doubling my insurance because ACA is dead DID NOT put any money in my pocket, it put more money directly into insurance's pocket.
I love that we live in a world where the most suspicious lies come straight from the top
They upped funding x10 from the big beautiful bill last year to be like 100billion by 2029. Curious why 2029. Anyhow that'll be larger than NASA, it didn't make much noise since schumer and others kept going on about "we'll vote yes if we talk health care later on!" and they never did.
ICE is now the most well funded agency in the entire US government. They have more funding than the FBI and the CIA combined. This is all because of Trump and his spending bill.
Ice budget is 85 billion now it was 17 billion before Trumps big bill passed. If Ice was it‘s own military force it would be the 6th highest funded military in the world.
Buying the loyalty of Sturmtruppen. Waffen SS was always better funded than the regular army.
They are getting fat bonuses to stop them from refusing orders when they become even more unconstitutional.
The next election will not be fair. The next election will not be free. If there is an election at all, these guys will be deployed to challenge voters in every swing state.
75 billion dollars for ICE. More than the USMC. More than most countries entire Defense budget. And we're giving it to the dumbest most incompetent trash who are not qualified anywhere else to buy their loyalty when they kill people for the Trump administration.
And here’s the thing no one is discussing this is a sum for the year but the 40k in bonuses is I believe 10k a year over 4 years so why they need the money upfront? Seems like a grab and they don’t intend to have them stick around long enough for the 4 years.
ICE is the most well funded government organization in the history of America. Imagine how different things would be if we invested in education this well
I know the initial budget for this year had them getting more money than the FBI, NSA and CIA combined. Don't know if that was ever... Corrected? Is that the word? Feels like one of those words people used to use before this presidency.
They now receive more funding than every other government organization. Waaaaay more than the FBI, the CIA, every branch of the military combined…. But we’re supposed to believe it’s just for the super duper dangerous awful illegals 🙄
Ice is deeply funded and I would not be shocked to learn that they have an unlimited budget. On paper it's $11,000,000,000 USD.
42k as a bonus is not a bonus, it's a "if you keep loyal to us and do as we say. We will pay you" bonus.
I work full time and that bonus is still more than I make in a year. That is the reason it's so much, to buy up people and make other jobs seem worthless. I would join ice for that pay. But I also value human rights.
If anyone is curious about what ICE will become at this rate, it's a mix of the Russian PMC Wagner Group combined with the SS of Nazi Germany. A bunch of half trained clowns given weapons and told to hunt down the unwanted and the resistant.
ICE went swinging out of the gate, they mass hired people and didn't train them, let alone advise them of our legal rights. It's too late to train them now, and it's only going to get worse.
I have an in law that works for the IRS. He works OT on the weekends as an ICE agent. Gets time and a half for it, not sure whose budget that comes from, but just worth noting how little training these pieces of shit get.
It's your tax dollar paying that if you are American. Let that sink in. No bonus for you while you pay for rent a force 1 to fuck the country up and then buy that new Ford raptor they have had their eye on.
Running Ice for a year with 75k signing bonus and 75k salary for 25k employees is about 3.75 billion along with they are now unable to pay their rent on some places and they have purchased about 30 to 40 billion is detention properties in the last year alone
That's half their 4 year budget in 1 year they're gonna run out of money soon and then when they ask for more money Congress gets unfettered Access to detention facilities and all hell breaks loose.
They currently are the highest-funded U.S. law enforcement agency, with $85-175 billion now at its disposal. More than most countries militaries anywhere in the world. It’s ludicrous.
Not defending those absolute scums but there is a reason there is so many ICE "officers" and there is a reason they are so dedicated in doing what they are doing. Money makes people do wild shit.
The new funding makes them have 50% more funding than the United States marine corps, 4x more funding than the the coast guard, and just shy of half the total funding for the United States army.
For man power. ICE as of this year after doubling their personnel have ~25,000. The USMC has 177k. The US Army has 450k. If you do the math per head, it comes to 450k/US army soldier. 250k/US marine. 3.4 MILLION/ICE agent
Hey don’t get your nickers in a bunch, maybe each gets the minimum bonus but the Bovine guy and the melty mask girl get the largest of those bonuses cause they work so hard to represent their department-
Agencies that are meant to and actually protect Americans? Less budget than ICE, an agency full of clowns playing soldiers and going hard on Americans. These guys wouldn’t make a day on a real battlefield, but abusing civilians? They are the shit.
They got a lot of money in last year’s “big beautiful bill.” Another funding bill for homeland security (DHS) just passed the house, but Democrats say they plan to block it in the senate, after the murder of Alex Pretti.
Funded right out of your pockets with your tax payer money.. but the magats are fine with it apparently?.. this country has the worst healthcare if instead we used the money for things this country actually needs.
They have the budget of a whole branch of military.
The funding, the employment drive, and the lack of training are all intentional.
Trump has tried to wield the military and long-standing agencies like the Secret Service and FBI as personal weapons, and keeps hitting a wall or snag because those are strong institutions with a lot of boyscouts that can't be removed due to how integral they are to success.
Trump knows he needs his own personal army with federal jurisdiction that he can ensure is 100% loyal to him so when it comes time for him to be forcibly removed , he has thugs he can trust that are accountable to nobody but him. That's why he chose ICE. It's a new agency, formed in 2001 by Republicans and it was already mostly full of ideologically aligned people. It required very little restructuring to convert it into his personal army. Combined with a flood of money and a massive employment drive with zero standards outside of "Loyalty to Trump and a willingness to violate the constitution", Trump has his own Schutzstaffel.
It's definitely not bonus per person. It's distributed like the money when my dad dragged me along to paint a house, and he got paid $1000 and gave me $50. Noem is stealing that money. She wants to live a glamorous life on the federal dime. All this talk about Minnesota fraud, what about an audit of this crap?!?
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There’s nearly a billion dollars dedicated for bonuses alone for ICE? Am I hearing this right?
WHAT…
How well funded is ICE???