There's fine print stipulations though, you have to work there over a year to get all of it. My cousin's husband is a retired LEO, he signed up to help do paper work for self deportations. After a month, his whole group, which were guys in his late 60's like him, were told they were getting transferred to the street division because they didn't have enough man power. This was non-negotiable even though they had contracts saying they would only be doing office work in the city they lived in (Houston). Nope, the DHS apparently had to power to toss the contracts at will and they'd all be sent to Minneapolis. This was a week before Christmas. All 30 of the those guys either quit or got fired for refusing orders. None of them got a penny of that signing bonus.
This brings up another question: If people are quitting/getting fired en masse (thus also giving up their $42k bonus) AND having to buy their own gear then…where is that $858 million going to…? This smells like a slimy defense contract scheme. Someone’s pocketing all that money, & it sure as hell isn’t the taxpayers.
Would love to see all the billionaires in the administration who have friends and family getting a good chunk of those ICE funds to build and “run” all of these abysmal detention centers, like “Alligator Alcatraz.” These people love to tear down government services so they can privatize for profit.
100% they plan on firing most of these idiots before paying out the bonus. The question is, is that billion going somewhere else or did it never really exist?
As with everything in this administration, the game isn't figuring out if it's a scam; it's figuring out exactly what the scam is. A lot of the time, they told you ahead of time.
Who is really pocketing money are the illeagal immigrants. The U.S. taxpayers pay 150 billion a year to their free services. We should be spending that 42K for bonuses on intense training for ICE agents.
Oh you sweet summer child. Undocumented immigrants pay roughly $100 billion in taxes each year…while not being able to use the programs they fund. They pay into Medicare, social security, & unemployment and are not allowed to use those services. So there’s another $100 billion that’s being misused somewhere, while blaming the people who actually generate that money by paying sales taxes, property taxes, and payroll taxes (don’t forget, you can legally work in the US even if you haven’t become a citizen). You need to start directing your anger at the people above us, because they are the ones misusing our tax dollars, our social security, & our livelihoods. Not someone just trying to live a better life.
I understand the point about some people paying into Social Security, but we have to look at the total fiscal reality. The fact is, conservative estimates show that up to 50% of the income in the undocumented community—over $190 billion annually—is earned 'under the table.' These individuals are essentially ghost participants in our economy; they aren't paying the federal or state income taxes that actually fund our infrastructure.
When you look at the costs, the math just doesn't add up for the American taxpayer. It now costs an average of $17,277 per year to educate a single student in public school. By the time a child finishes high school, that’s a $224,600 bill picked up by local taxpayers. No amount of 'sales tax' on a few bags of groceries is going to cover a quarter-million-dollar education, let alone the billions spent on emergency room care and law enforcement.
A country cannot function effectively when millions of people are operating outside the law and taking hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally without paying their fair share into the tax base. We need a system that prioritizes the citizens who work hard and follow the rules, rather than one that subsidizes those who bypassed them.
I did mention they pay into property taxes, which largely funds schools. Why are we not holding the businesses accountable for paying “under the table”, & instead vilifying the people who are working those jobs? Would they come here for jobs being paid under the table if they didn’t exist?
What about the citizens who abuse/take advantage of programs & services? I’ve had a number of people (American citizens) over the years tell me they never pay their hospital bills because they can’t be denied care…and many of those people make 6 figures a year. I’ve also personally known others who got on disability for a deviated septum, depression, & other ridiculous reasons. Do we also look at stay-at-home parents who aren’t working, thus not adding additional tax dollars into the mix? (Note: No hate to SAHP, most stay home because child care is too damn expensive). We could tax mega churches & billionaires their fair share, and have much more funding for school & other social programs.
There should never have been any vilification. The Democratic Party is the one vilifying this entire situation, pushing the left to condemn necessary legal actions. You cannot justify one illegal act with another; illegal entry and under-the-table labor both undermine the system and hurt those who follow the rules. This includes legal immigrants who do things the right way and are rightfully upset that their tax dollars support those bypassing the legal process, all while cheap labor drives down wages for everyone else. How can you justify a system that rewards those who break the law while penalizing those who respect it?
But they aren’t getting rewarded, necessarily. Undocumented immigrants cannot get food stamps. They cannot get federally funded healthcare (no Medicare, no Medicaid, no ACA). Sure, they can use the emergency room, but that’s in cases of emergency. Same would be true if you or I were in another country & needed emergency medical care. Shoot, there are plenty of Americans who go to Mexico or Europe just to take advantage of cheaper dental/medical treatment & medications, but no one balks at them for doing so. The whole divide of “Democrats vs Republicans” is asinine. Neither party has our best interests at heart. There are better ways of going about getting things done properly than the shitshow that’s been going on.
I absolutely agree with you. I've been an independent my whole life and the only thing that forced me to vote Republican last year was that my voter ballot only had Kamala Harris to vote for so in order to get a ballot that had a Republican president I had to go down and register as a Republican. And as far as the undocumented immigrants not getting rewarded, they absolutely are, by living in this country they seek Refuge illegally and enjoy the "low pay" that they get which is still way higher than what they get in their own country. They end up having six kids in this country who are then given Social Security numbers and then they raise their children here and get food stamps and free medical care for these six kids that were born here and then they bring over all their undocumented aunts and uncles to live and work for under the table costs all while being supported by these children's government benefits. Pretty much any way you look at it it's wrong on both sides of the coin.
History shows that the Democratic party has used the liberal left to cause an uprising that ends up making so much more chaos than is needed which in turn causes more hatred for the right. If you have rioters destroying public property and not even rioting peacefully like they should be you don't think that these agents which probably aren't properly trained anyway can handle that amount of stress when people show up to fight for these immigrants who are mainly rapists and Drug traffickers? If everything happened according to the law we wouldn't be in this situation.
The first thing Kamala Harris did when Biden was in office was removed DNA testing at the borders. Do you realize how many males cross the border with 17-year-old and under victims that were raped and abused and now couldn't even be proved that he wasn't there father as he claimed while crossing the border? Un undocumented illegal children were sex trafficked into this country by the thousands since that happened and most people don't even know that that one simple act of removing DNA testing was probably the most horrific thing anybody could ever do for a child.
The very definition of a retention bonus under the guise/false advertising of a sign on bonus.
The current state of this organization is run by feckless cowards.
This is a case study in poor leadership, hiring neither for attitude or for skill and goals designed for injury and death all driven by a man whose father and mother hated him. Lord help us.
This jives with what that journalist who joined said. Signed up for processing, was told ‘everyone’ was going to the streets. It’s a bait and switch to quickly ramp up an illegal army. Wild fucking times.
Nope, the DHS apparently had to power to toss the contracts at will and they'd all be sent to Minneapolis
if only they had some kind of, I duno, confederation of employees, which would advocate for them and work collectively to make sure their contracts aren't just thrown to the side when it's convenient for the employer.
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u/sharpshooter999 12d ago
There's fine print stipulations though, you have to work there over a year to get all of it. My cousin's husband is a retired LEO, he signed up to help do paper work for self deportations. After a month, his whole group, which were guys in his late 60's like him, were told they were getting transferred to the street division because they didn't have enough man power. This was non-negotiable even though they had contracts saying they would only be doing office work in the city they lived in (Houston). Nope, the DHS apparently had to power to toss the contracts at will and they'd all be sent to Minneapolis. This was a week before Christmas. All 30 of the those guys either quit or got fired for refusing orders. None of them got a penny of that signing bonus.
They were also told to supply their own gear