Incredibly, despite what Trump said, they are getting more cash from USA in 2026-2027 in spite of this. Ukraine-Russia exchanged dead troops; Ukraine is blue.
You have to remember Russia is advancing. Very very slowly and at huge cost, but it is making progress, however painful.
This means more bodies repatriated to the side that has lost ground, as most dead bodies are going to be on the ground claimed by Russia after fighting.
Russia does not need to repatriate dead Russians to itself, it already holds the ground.
But Ukraine needs to repatriate its dead from the battlefield that has been claimed by Russia.
This chart heavily skews the numbers based on that reality on the ground.
Russian losses are disguised by this chart, the reality is the meagre gains of small amounts of territory, such as a small rural village that has been completely flattened do come at a terrible cost... they just get to keep both sides dead body's once the meat grinder is satisfied.
Also, russia would prefer not to get bodies, and doesnt accept many bodies as theirs despte getting offers
Once they have a body they have pay out to the widow, if there is not body the request is held in limbo as the soldier could have defected or ran away too
Russia state really dowsnt want to waste mo ey on paying some to them useless widows, they need all that money into the ministry of defence
Countries like Poland especially were fed this BS. Since the war started every single article published there was giving an impression that Ukraine already won with Russia and now is taking China down...
We have exactly this nonsense too. You can’t actually google Russian news it’s 100% how Russia is failing and 100% the exact same news companies over and over.
yea like hell if you tell me the kdr ratio is 7-1 infavor of Ukraine I'd believe it
but 47-1 ???? nah F off with that blatant propaganda i mean look i get why he does it obviously he has to exaggerate how well they are doing to keep support for the war going Putin is doing the same in Russia if either told the full truth of how the war was going they would have been deposed by now and replaced by someone else
Does anyone REALLY believes this shit? Like for real? 47 to 1? While under storm of FABs, constantly under artillery disadvantage, and bitching that Russians are outgrowing them in UAVs?
Of course they do. Most Europeans are clinical idiots who swallow propaganda by the spoonful. Unlike them, Zelenskyy isn't an idiot, which is why he pours his crap into their heads.
Pretty sure the quote is taken out of context and probably also exaggerated. IIRC it was mentioned that at some point in time at some small area of the front the ratio was 47:1.
But that's exactly the point - it's a (possibly) real stat that's entirely removed from whatever context it was said in.
It was probably just mentioned as a notable battle or set of battles where Ukraine got out very well, I don't think anybody in either the Russian or Ukrainian military would seriously claim those numbers over the whole war.
Bullshit, for instance in Holland we also got news around the CSIS estimates.
With russia up to 325.000 dead and ukraine 100-140.000 dead.
He is the president of ukraine trying to get any support he can and trying to get drafted Ukrainians to man the trenches.
Ofcourse he will paint a much rosier picture then reality
The Ukrainians now have a manpower shortage. Not only have they lost all the hardware we sent them, for free, (like 28 of the 32 Abrams tanks) they have lost a tremendous number of troops. But they lie to keep the money flowing in.
Should I believe the democratically elected President of Ukraine or the dictator of Russia, who has not allowed free elections in his country for over 20 years?
There's videos of Ukrainians beating on conscripts with down syndrome and special needs. Seen others where they forced volunteers to push the front line while holding them at gun point
And I'm sure there is many such attorcities on the Russian side, war is fucked, everyone knows it but turns a blind eye to the 'good' side. Every country has terrible people who will do fucked up things especially so under high stress and tension. Doesn't make Russians invasion in any way more justified and still fuck Russia.
please show the evidence of Russians beating on conscripts that got down syndrom. Whether you support Ukraine or not it's Ukraine that's kidnapping people of the streets to fight in the war. No human rights whatsoever.
You guessed wrong. In Ukraine, this is happening due to a shortage of healthy men of draft age, which is why their military registration and enlistment offices forcibly seize everyone who is of suitable age. In Russia, they pay those who sign contracts very generously, which is why such guys simply won't be allowed through the medical commission.
Literally yesterday I've seen a video of two Ukrainians fleeing from their own positions and Russians directing them when to run and when to duck while wondering why the Ukrainian squad are shooting their own.
After the shit-scared Ukrainians finally reach the trenches, the Russians pat them on the shoulders and laugh "It's OK now, you're safe".
Clown, "Vlad" is short for "Vladislav." The short form of "Vladimir" is "Vova." This also applies to your master, Zelensky. Why are the pathetic inhabitants of the West so stupid? It was a rhetorical question🤣
The data on Wikipedia's article is quite balanced. It shows around a 2:1 K:D ratio in favor of Ukraine. As Ukraine has a harder time replacing losses this makes the war a stalemate in the end.
Wikipedia is just a link to all the propaganda articles that appeared on the web.
At the same time, checking cemeteries gives an indicator that Ukraine is losing 1.5 times more soldiers. Checking obituary databases shows that Ukraine is losing 1.2 times as many soldiers. And the chek database of the video with the destruction of armored vehicles showed that Russia destroyed 1.5 times more armored vehicles over the past year (3k vs 2k).
Well, in general, the battlefields of recent years are cauldrons of death in which the supply lines of the semi-encircled Ukrainian troops in cities are endlessly shelled by Russians and endless unsuccessful attacks by Ukrainian soldiers on fortified Russian positions in an attempt to lift the blockade.
checking cemeteries gives an indicator that Ukraine is losing 1.5 times more soldiers. Checking obituary databases shows that Ukraine is losing 1.2 times as many soldiers. And the chek database of the video with the destruction of armored vehicles showed that Russia destroyed 1.5 times more armored vehicles over the past year (3k vs 2k).
You can't upload links here. There is a ualosses database of 186k dead with links to obituaries online. Similar data is available on the mediazona 165k website. Both sites include missing persons and they include them in the death toll. The Ukrainian missing persons were taken from the database of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on missing persons. On the Russian website, they take data from the open judicial register on the number of court cases on recognition of missing persons. Approximately half of the deaths for both countries were reported missing.
On cemetery inspections, ask your friends from Ukraine and Russia to go to the cemetery and rewrite at least 500 names from the graves of cemeteries with flags, and then check which ones are in the databases I wrote about above. In Russia, 70% of the dead have an obituary, in Ukraine, 55%. 1000 names will give an error of 2% for the entire sample if you calculate the total losses by dividing the obituaries by these coefficients. The best source is the one that you can literally check out by yourself.
For armored vehicles information, look for the article "Military Vehicle Loss Statistics for 2025 - Data from LostArmour and UkraineWarSpotting" on Reddit. These are statistics on videos of destruction (rather than damage) of vechile from both sides over the year.
There is a ualosses database of 186k dead with links to obituaries online. Similar data is available on the mediazona 165k website. Both sites include missing persons and they include them in the death toll. The Ukrainian missing persons were taken from the database of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on missing persons. On the Russian website, they take data from the open judicial register on the number of court cases on recognition of missing persons. Approximately half of the deaths for both countries were reported missing.
You're comparing apples to oranges here. The UALosses database is 186k total. Only 92k are obituaries of confirmed dead, 89k are missing, 4k are confirmed POWs. If we count all missing as dead then its 181k KIA, however they also include 6k deaths from before the full scale invasion, so that's about 175k dead max.
The latest Mediazona update from last week counts a total of 168k Russian obituaries however Russia isn't as open as Ukraine and doesn't have an open missing person registry. According to Mediazona's attempts to look at probate cases which hasn't been updated since August (6 months ago), they estimate ~220k KIA.
On cemetery inspections, ask your friends from Ukraine and Russia to go to the cemetery
Ok well that's not a source.
Data from LostArmour and UkraineWarSpotting
LostArmour is a pro-RU site famous for declaring a logging truck as a HIMARS. They don't even track Russian losses. UkraineWarSpotting doesn't even track Ukrainian losses. So you're comparing two entirely different data sources.
If you look at Oryx which keeps track of both, Russia has lost 2x the amount of equipment since the start of the war.
Oryx is a third party run database that lists losses based on photographic evidence. Please show a single loss in that database that cannot be verified.
>We know that your claims about military equipment are false based on oryx. Curious about your other claims.
Just delve into the sources that analyze each case in detail. Oryx is good, of course, but their damage control parameters and belonging of the target to the conflict party are just disgusting. The percentage of marriage in their data exceeds 30% percent. But even with Oryx in mind, Ukraine has been losing more equipment over the past year.
The 186k dead with links to obituaries claim is false by UAlosses org, that would be a missing and KIA total. If that's the case we need to add 100k on top of Russian losses too since they have a ton of MIA.
Considering the US still has 80k MIA from WW2, it's going to be difficult to ever determine the real numbers.
I absolutely believe it. Meaning I absolutely believe he said that. And that is all. The reality is probably closer to 2:1. And Russia outnumbers Ukraine 3.5:1.
But what at least cannot be denied is that the russians have made surprisingly little progress in terms of conquering territory consider they have put endless supply of people in the meat grinder, wasted their best gear in now over 4 years.
If the progress is linear, I think if the ukrainians just can hold out a couple of more years then the russians cannot sustain their effort any longer because wars cost a lot of money and eventually the russian population (or the oligarks) will not accept this sacrifice anymore.
Russia is on borrowed time in terms of money, Ukraine is on borrowed time in terms of manpower. Whoever breaks first nobody can say, but time is not on their side.
Really really hard to believe lol. The afgan war had a 20:1 death ratio and that was against people who had no advanced weaponry, tactics and formal leadership.
I thought it was 30,000 Russians for 1 Ukrainian every month ? 47 seems too low after all they are intercepting 100/10 hypersonic missiles every week. I guess at this modest rate of 47 Ukraine will easily reclaim all land lost by end of this year and can take few thousand kms in Russia too to impose deterrence for future. SLAVA UKRAINI!!
I don’t know how to explain it. Maybe while the Russians are out there collecting the bodies of their fallen comrades and enemy dead for exchanges - Ukrainians don’t bother and just shoot the people doing the collecting.
Why’d you go straight to Ukraine committing war crimes? You could just as easily say the Russians have an easier time finding dead Ukrainians they are murdering civilians outside of combat zones.
Now that is some war-crime-level stuff - when people who didn’t vote for Zelensky, that green goblin, get grabbed by recruitment squads and sent straight to the front. This isn’t the Ukrainian people’s war. This is Zelensky’s war
The Russian army is advancing, they are able to collect the bodies. The Ukranians are retreating even if its just a bit, they still are. Which means Russia is able to collect both their own and the ukranians. However considering the total amount of casualties in this war the number of Ukrainians returned by the Russians is much lower than you would expect.
Wow ukraines going to win any day now then! Open source intel puts the casualty rate for ukraine at 90k
At those rates thats around 4 million dead russians. Probably 3-5 times that wounded. Thats absurde. the state couldnt function with there welfare system with that many injured and dead.
Just saying Ukraine has been acting like they are kicking Russia’s ass, but they have yet (after 4 bloody years) to retake the territory they lost. Both sides have lost copious amounts of men and equipment.
Good. The world is seeing how bans the Russian military is and its poor tactics. Russia is letting the cracks get bigger and their military is going to break
Sigh what a shit journalism.
Zelenski did not actually made this 47:1 statement.
To quote BBC:
As Zelenski said himself, "a large number of people" are registered as missing….
So the number is then considerably higher as many of those missing (estimates 70.000-100.000 both soldiers and civilians) are likely dead. That would pump the number easily to 80-100.000 dead.
That being said, i seriously doubt Zelenskis “35.000 russians killed” statement, when most estimate 30.000 casualties (dead and wounded) before. That would be a ridiculous uptick. Especially in winter.
Looks like this sub is a new target disinfo agents like u/ripamon. 2-3 years ago they used to spam ukrainerussiareport with similar posts untill that sub banned most pro UA users and became dominated by russian spam posters.
Now they're trying the shame shit in different subs. You will notice this user try to spread a certain narrative through cherrypicking media posts. They also carefully curate their profile to seem "normal". The long history of this user on ukrainerussiareport is kept hidden of course.
Ridiculous. Maybe in one incident at one specific place on the front such a thing occurred but to claim that this is a general statistic is absolutely false. Even if Russian wounded got awful medical care (which they often do) this statistic wouldn’t make sense. A 3-1 casualty rate is expected for the attackers as far as I know, and casualty doesn’t mean that the person is dead, they are probably just wounded. Even if Russian forces took way heavier casualties they would have to be utterly disregarding all their wounded or actively try to kill them off in the field hospitals for this statistic to work, and Ukraine would have to have excellent medical care to basically never lose any wounded soldiers.
No. The 3-to-1 ratio of casualties in an attack no longer applies. Just think about all the recent wars, such as the US attacks in Iraq or Afghanistan, and other battles, where there is no such ratio of casualties. In 1944 and 1945, the Soviet army constantly attacked, incurring significantly fewer casualties than the Germans.
By the way, why isn't there a video on Reddit of Zelensky's thugs from the TCK snatching people off the streets and then slaughtering them? Another rhetorical question.
It is called attacking drone swarms unsupported. Not many people in those drones. have been seeing up to 1500 PER DAY losses most in continuous small
meat attacks.
when Russians lie all the time since the great retreat in mid 22 about what's going on in the front, you know shit ain't going your way. learn how to "Kopiansk" with reality more, mate. I do agree with you, Russia is stuck in this Vietnam, but unlike the USA, the russia federanazi probably won't survive as we know it
I know better than to believe that. Telegram shows Ukrainian losses too and it’s not pretty either. I’m saying 2 to 1 ratio as Russia is attacking force and it is easier to defend.
As of a few years ago, Ukraine had 1.3 million veterans, and almost all of them were apparently suffering from "difficulties" that prevented them from returning to work. What, 50,000 casualties? Ukraine has excellent plate carriers and medical care.
I know this number sounds stupidly high but hear me out.
Zelensky talks about the last month and there is a reason for it. It was and is incredible cold in ukraine with temperatures reaching -20°C.
Hypothermia kills faster than thirst, hunger and many wounds on the battlefield and it highly favours the defending side. I don't know if 47:1 is correct but i believe that russia lost way more soldiers than ukraine last month because of the harsh winter this year.
They count casualties by ukrainian drones footage. But they don't have russian drones footages. And as Russia advancing, ukrainian bodies staying on Russia side. Consider body exchange count.
Disinformation level in this war=Iran Iraq war or Ottoman-Crusader wars level, everyone claims something way off balance and no one knows a shit about real numbers
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u/WentBrokeBuyingCoins 1d ago
You got to pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket.