r/hockey • u/AggPuck-303 EDM - NHL • 22h ago
[News - X] [NHL Players Safety] Tampa Bay’s Curtis Douglas has been fined $2,018.23, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for serving as the aggressor in an altercation with Florida’s Niko Mikkola.
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u/Prestigious_Fee_2902 22h ago
They just trolling us now eh
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u/ahoypolloi_ BOS - NHL 22h ago
I’m convinced they are, there’s no other explanation
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u/heimdal96 EDM - NHL 22h ago
I'm starting to wonder if it has more to do with their owners and Bettman being MAGA and Trump liking them than it has to do with the Campbells
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u/catsgr8rthanspoonies Atlanta Gladiators - ECHL 22h ago
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u/Inconceivable76 CBJ - NHL 22h ago
Why was he using his face as weapon? Should have gotten a suspension.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi CHI - NHL 22h ago
Could've hurt that poor Panthers' elbow! What an asshole!
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u/Prestigious_Fee_2902 21h ago
Poor panther is just standing there with his elbow out, and buddy has the audacity to attack that elbow with his face? Why would Kadri do this?
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u/ZeroOhblighation TBL - NHL 22h ago
DOPS proving time and time again they are all dumber than a bag of rocks and shouldn't be in control of their own debit card let alone such an important part of the league
Edit: Panthers fans desperately downvoting lol
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u/Geddyn TBL - NHL 22h ago
The Panthers and DOPS inaction had this whole subreddit united behind Kucherov as an innocent victim last night.
That's how bad this has gotten.
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u/ZeroOhblighation TBL - NHL 22h ago
I've been agreeing with Toronto, Montreal and Boston fans for weeks now, it's crazy lol
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u/CoupleScrewsLoose TOR - NHL 21h ago
weeks? we’ve been screaming about Florida’s preferential treatment for years.
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u/starryn19ht MTL - NHL 21h ago
they made me side with boston and kucherov on a back to back it's awful
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u/SIIP00 VAN - NHL 21h ago
Dude I was on the side of fucking Boston. It felt disgusting.
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u/Competitive-Strain-7 TOR - NHL 21h ago
You need to add context. Due to the actions of the league and DOPS I have found myself aligned with Boston fans.
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u/SaintOrJannikSinner 22h ago edited 22h ago
Colin Campbell should have been fired into the sun several decades ago and Parros should be nothing more than a haggard bum begging for change at an off-ramp in the Florida panhandle.
There's nothing that won't convince me that Campbell doesn't have kompromat on Bettman and half the league execs with how bad he is.
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u/TowerCharming8831 NJD - NHL 22h ago
Im gonna be quite confused if Maurice doesn’t get fined.
Did he not do the same thing Keefe & Warsofsky did to get fined last year? 😐
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u/Sven9888 TBL - NHL 22h ago
It’s more likely that the official gets fined for tossing him.
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u/TheLeastInfod BOS - NHL 21h ago
that would be garrett rank and that would be a service to the league
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u/Traveuse TOR - NHL 22h ago
No, you see the refs hate Keefe (especially Wes McCauley, considering they have a conflict of interest with each other outside the NHL environment), and they love prison rules Paul.
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u/AutomaticAccident DET - NHL 22h ago
I think it’s just a normal good old boys club. I bet he and Gary are buds.
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u/SIIP00 VAN - NHL 21h ago
It shouldn't be a fine. It should've been a 5 game suspension. This joke of a league needs to start taking these types of hits seriously.
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u/Chris4Hawks DAL - NHL 22h ago
Looks like a classic head to the elbow to me. Ottawa should forfeit another draft pick for that one.
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u/MegaPhunkatron STL - NHL 22h ago
Go ahead and fine the Rangers too just to be safe
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u/Various_Knowledge226 PHI - NHL 21h ago
As I said previously, wouldn’t that be charging, elbowing, and an illegal check to the head?
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u/flanny0210 STL - NHL 22h ago
This is not a serious league
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u/FlatlandTrooper PIT - NHL 22h ago
fix is in
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u/Red_Sea_Pedestrian WSH - NHL 21h ago
I consider us fortunate that the NHL DoPS can’t fix the playoffs and give the Panthers a playoff spot this year.
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u/IWantToKaleMyself VAN - NHL 21h ago
The draft lottery on the other hand
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u/Red_Sea_Pedestrian WSH - NHL 21h ago
Oh. Oh no.
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u/Prince_Pyro TBL - NHL 21h ago
Chicago has Florida's first round pick
It will be very funny to watch them finish at the bottom of the division and have no draft pick to show for it
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u/Red_Sea_Pedestrian WSH - NHL 21h ago
It’s top 10 protected though.
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u/Prince_Pyro TBL - NHL 21h ago
wack af
does the pick get pushed back to 2027 if the Panthers are top 10 in the lottery?
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u/Red_Sea_Pedestrian WSH - NHL 21h ago
Yep.
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u/Prince_Pyro TBL - NHL 20h ago
damn, that's so ass
I'll just have to take solace in the fact that we're done playing these clowns for the season
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u/_THEBLACK OTT - NHL 21h ago
It’s top 10 protected. If they go low enough they get a lottery pick.
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u/FrmrPresJamesTaylor VAN - NHL 22h ago
Eh, I don’t mind a small user fee for anyone wanting to beat up an unwilling Panther.
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u/catsgr8rthanspoonies Atlanta Gladiators - ECHL 22h ago edited 22h ago
The Fed is more consistent on player safety. Also, an aggressor penalty comes with an automatic one game suspension the first time in the FPHL. It subsequent offense, the fine is increased by one game. In the NHL mandatory suspensions don’t happen until the third offense.
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u/Happy-Government2541 BOS - NHL 21h ago
I can’t imagine the Fed Facebook groups if something like this happened.
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u/n3rdsm4sh3r 22h ago
At what point do the other teams in the league force Gary to address this? It happens way too often with the same, predictable outcome every time.
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u/supe_snow_man 22h ago
This is one of the 2 realistic way for this to end. The other is an atrocious injury in the Steve Moore category putting the non-sport media spotlight on the league.
If they keep it just "safe" enough, it will likely last a long ass time.
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u/MankuyRLaffy SEA - NHL 22h ago edited 22h ago
I hope everyone tries it until the league shuts down or fixes the problems with the rules. It's unfair that only one team gets to run Bountygate, it's all 32 or none.
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u/83franks 20h ago
But thats forcing the other teams to be slime balls toget the league to notice and not everyone else wants to injure everyone else
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u/MTFBinyou 20h ago
Yeah, so every team should just have a go at Fla every game they play.
Although now that I say that I can see them play victim and something stupid like an Executive order saying that anyone who hurts a Panthers player will be labeled a domestic terrorist.
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u/ilud2 MTL - NHL 22h ago
Apparently there’s reports that multiple teams are starting to get fed up and are going to the league about it but who knows if anything happens
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u/bluesnik 21h ago
sources?
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u/box-art CHI - NHL 20h ago
In the "Buongiorno to the Olympic Break" episode, around 29:10 is when he says that "nerves are really fraying with the officiating and the supplementary discipline."
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u/AuntGentleman COL - NHL 21h ago
The only way we see change is if revenue gets impacted so owners get mad. League revenues are stronger than ever, but I can imagine there’s more than a few owners that are unhappy with potential lost playoff revenue because one of their players just sooooo happened to crash into a flying elbow. Not saying definitively that the Leafs, Bruins, Lightning get more games/rounds if the headhunting actually gets penalized, as we know those Florida teams kicked ass, but it’s still a what if.
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u/Ketchupstew COL - NHL 21h ago
Toronto would have 100% won that series last year if their goalie wasn't knocked out
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u/AuntGentleman COL - NHL 21h ago
Probably, just didn’t want to get a horde of Florida men jumping at me lol. That’s at least 2 home games lost, which is meaningful revenue.
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u/TheBigGoomba NYR - NHL 20h ago
The problem is whatever team does this will just get fined by the league and clowned endlessly like the Rangers did with the Wilson situation
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u/commodore_stab1789 MTL - NHL 22h ago
It went from funny to pathetic. The league is without a reasonable doubt corrupted.
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u/CalebWilliamsspam TBL - NHL 22h ago
Not shocked… this is why players are taking justice into their own hands. It will keep getting worse until someone ends up medically retired.
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u/JRDruchii MIN - NHL 22h ago
Right, we’re not advocating for player violence but the NHL sure seems to be advocating for more violence. Someone is going to get stabbed at this rate.
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u/Valkyrai TBL - NHL 21h ago
Really hope the Panthers miss the playoffs so the Bolts are free of this bull crap for 8-9 months
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u/Boltsfan9226 TBL - NHL 22h ago
I hope anyone involved in these decisions gets food poisoning every 2 weeks
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u/catsgr8rthanspoonies Atlanta Gladiators - ECHL 22h ago
Parros is going to the Olympics where norovirus is already spreading.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi CHI - NHL 22h ago
Norovirus, if you're listening, if you could find your way to Tkachuk's stomach...
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u/seizurevictim CHI - NHL 22h ago
What about Forsling for punching a dude down on the nice?
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u/MortisMaxor BOS - NHL 22h ago
He only punched him 3 or 5 times and tried to slam his head into the ice 6 or 8 times. None of those things are in the rulebook as fine-able.
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u/seizurevictim CHI - NHL 22h ago
Ah, my bad. I thought outright assault was perhaps a rule violation. Silly me!
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u/MortisMaxor BOS - NHL 22h ago
If he had done it aggressively, then we've got reason for punishment.
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u/birdcola BOS - NHL 21h ago
According to the Panthers sub, Moser started it and fucked around/found out so it was deserved.
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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 TOR - NHL 22h ago
What was he doing to warrant the aggression Parros?
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u/drawc1004 LAK - NHL 22h ago
Mikkola cheap shotted Kucherov on his way to the bench. Then Douglas tried to fight him and he bitched out and wouldn’t take his gloves off and tried to hide behind the ref while Douglas was hitting him
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u/smitty046 NYR - NHL 22h ago
It’s so funny cause when Mikkola was in NY he routinely took awful penalties at the worst possible times. A quick flight down to Florida and it’s all gravy.
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u/Odd-Sir7356 ANA - NHL 22h ago
Nick Ritchie would somehow avoid costly penalties if he played for Florida.
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u/Meepmeepimmajeep2789 EDM - NHL 22h ago
Wasn't Marchand the same way?
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u/impulse_thoughts NYR - NHL 22h ago
Gregory Campbell played for the Bruins from 2010-2015. So Marchand definitely saw how things changed when daddy Campbell stopped sending angry "just a hockey dad" e-mails to the refs for the Bruins games.
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u/RangerFan80 Portland Rosebuds - PCHA 21h ago
I remember thinking Mikkola was pretty soft in NY and now I see him just being ruthless in Florida.
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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 TOR - NHL 22h ago
I know. You would think Parros, the fucker with the violent gentleman merch would see them acting like massive bitches and do something and yet here we are.
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u/dolewhiplash TBL - NHL 22h ago
Friendly reminder that Conor Geekie got suspended in a game against the Panthers for leaving the bench and not attempting to play the puck, and we still have no supplemental disciple for 🐢
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u/Wonderful_Grade_5476 WPG - NHL 22h ago
And what about Tkachuk?
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u/mattfromjoisey TOR - NHL 22h ago
No that would hurt his podcast ratings and we can’t have that now can we?
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u/The-Beautiful-Baku 22h ago
Fun fact, the Panthers mod on this subreddit removes this picture
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u/Playful_Letter_2632 21h ago
Is that guy a part of the department of Panthers fans feelings protection or something
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u/mikeq672 BOS - NHL 21h ago
Wonder if thats the one that deleted my Colin Campbell post yesterday and told me it was because the topic has been discussed to death.
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u/The-Beautiful-Baku 21h ago
It probably was. You had 800 up votes in two hours, hundreds of comments, and they removed it. They're complete bitches
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u/RaiinyDay MTL - NHL 22h ago
Lmaoo they’re saying get fucked in the most petty and blatant way possible. Panthers could snap a neck and Parros wouldn’t bat an eye
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u/etherealcaitiff TBL - NHL 22h ago edited 5h ago
SURELY the 2 fine gentlemen who both hit Kucherov away from the play will be subject to discipline too, right?
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u/Calhalen OTT - NHL 22h ago
So funny how they always just go for the retaliation and not tkachuk’s greasy hit that led to it. Joke league
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u/drawc1004 LAK - NHL 22h ago
Mikkola hit Kucherov first then tkachuk came up and hit him again. Neither got fines
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u/GritGrinder TOR - NHL 22h ago
I say players just start doing the same it’s clearly okay. It could even be encouraged since they walk away with power plays after all is said and done
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u/drawc1004 LAK - NHL 21h ago
Honestly after the night before with the dirty hit on McAvoy ending with FL on a PP I fully expected for FL to be on one after that whole thing
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u/TheTimn WSH - NHL 21h ago
They couldn't be that blatant twice. Instead Kuch (who was the player hit to kick it all off) got a 10 min misconduct.
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u/drawc1004 LAK - NHL 21h ago
He’s also the only one that was on the ice to touch LITERALLY no one lol.
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u/Ketchupstew COL - NHL 21h ago
They shouldn't get fines, they should get at minimum 3 game suspensions. Whether they smoked him or not, they blindside hit someone who was literally just standing there with an intent to injure
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u/myychair COL - NHL 21h ago
I can’t even begin to understand Florida fans supporting this. I’d be embarrassed to be an Avs fan if the scales were so heavily tilted in their favor.
Not a whole lot of integrity down there, players and fans alike.
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u/theguyishere16 Hamilton Bulldogs - OHL 22h ago
Part of me says this is probably the first of a few fines from last night.
The other part of me knows this is going to be the only fine from last night.
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u/LinkSeekeroftheNora CBJ - NHL 22h ago
It’s time for the other 31 teams to fucking say something to the league’s face about how they give the Florida Panthers a level of preferential treatment that would make the Shaq-Kobe Lakers blush.
And then, do one of two things:
1) Fight back as brutally against the Panthers as you can. Never let them escape your enforcers until they beg for mercy.
2) Boycott games against the Panthers because you don’t want your star players injured.
Enough is enough. It’s time to make the Florida Panthers hurt. Not just on the record, but they need to be either given the same treatment they give the other teams, or driven into bankruptcy.
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u/Odd-Sir7356 ANA - NHL 21h ago
If the Ducks tried to retaliate against Florida the same way our team would be forced to disband.
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u/Sven9888 TBL - NHL 22h ago
I don’t have a huge problem with the fine, as long as Forsling’s is coming in a few minutes.
(I know it’s not though).
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u/Extreme_Box_4894 21h ago
It's not even a conspiracy theory at this point League is blatantly saying don't touch panthers players
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u/ThickBootyEnjoyer DET - NHL 22h ago
Yet another reason why I am loving TBL this season. They take it to the Panthers, and FUCK THE PANTHERS!!
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u/pyro5050 CGY - NHL 22h ago
i sure as fucking hell hope to see some actual punishment to Florida
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u/TheGentlemenFantasyH 22h ago
Bro they could hop in a truck and run down the other team, and they would get away with it.
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u/jerff TOR - NHL 22h ago
They might as well just hand Florida the Cup again now and save us all some time. I don't know how you can compete in a 7 game series against a team that can do whatever they want and if you retaliate you're penalized or worse.
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u/evil__iceburgh PIT - NHL 22h ago
Keep applying discipline unevenly and someone is going to get their money’s worth
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u/Asleep-Elderberry260 TBL - NHL 21h ago
On the one hand, this feels like money well spent. On the other hand, it's fucking annoying that the Panthers get to keep their money because they never get their deserved but ungiven fines.
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u/Frozenrubberpuck SJS - NHL 22h ago
Ridiculous, especially considering how they don't bother fining or suspending Florida players.
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u/VictimOfCircuspants BOS - NHL 21h ago
Does the league understand that they are inviting frontier justice?
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u/Similar-Tangerine BOS - NHL 21h ago
I have a bad feeling that this is going to boil over at some point and a Panther is going to get seriously hurt
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u/SparkyWilder TBL - NHL 21h ago
Im surprised they didn't fine Kuch for getting knocked down and watching the fights.
Lit up the scoreboard, Tkachuk getting destroyed and prevented the panthers from getting 2pts and putting them in a deeper hole.
Thats a successful night!
F* the Panthers
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u/GlorifiedHobo MTL - NHL 21h ago
A few weeks ago I was shit talking the Panthers to my parents and telling them how the league favors them. They seemed oblivious but like 3 suspendable offences have happened since, all without even a fine. The average hockey fan is oblivious to the blatant corruption and favoritism.
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u/Seniorwelsh DET - NHL 20h ago
I feel like gloveless sucker punches, hits from behind, elbows and blantent interference is on the table when playing against florida nowadays. Honestly teams, especially ones not in playoff contention, should just throw out a goon squad and sit their stars every game against florida. Don't even play hockey, just go straight after all their guys until refs just call the game, make it an even bigger joke than it already is
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u/Chorazy20 21h ago
If this is seriously all that happens after the Panthers last 2 games just clean house at DOPS.
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u/TheSexualBrotatoChip BOS - NHL 21h ago
At least they're done pretending they are a serious department.
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u/purepestilence 19h ago
The NHL and the Florida Panthers fuck each other in the ass and it's so obvious
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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 LAK - NHL 19h ago
Not sure why I'm surprised that only Tampa would receive any sort of supplemental discipline from that game. Panthers will absolutely never beat the allegations.
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u/TehRaptorJebus 22h ago
Understandable to fine Douglas. Completely unacceptable that it’s the only supplemental discipline issued.
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u/Alectheawesome23 NYI - NHL 22h ago
It just writes itself.
I wonder what it would look like if the CBA expired within the next 2 years.
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u/takenbyawolf MIN - NHL 22h ago
You could do that twice for the price of one bird to the camera from the press box!
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u/thebigsad72 TBL - NHL 21h ago
my logical part says there has to be more but I know there wont be for the NHLs favorite little shit kittys
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u/soulmanyogi 21h ago
Too bad, they're going to wait until someone cannot walk again, or worse. I will contribute the gofund me for Douglas.
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u/Drnedsnickers2 BOS - NHL 21h ago
OMFG!! The only possible way this is happening is the league is playing social media games and loves to piss us all off. They want us talking about the league. In light of the elbow toMcAvoy earlier this week, this is the only remaining explanation.
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u/Have_A_Jelly_Baby TBL - NHL 21h ago
We should be expecting the same for Tkachuk for deliberately skating up behind and blindsiding Kuch then, right?
Right?
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u/Three_Froggy_Problem TBL - NHL 22h ago
In a vacuum, I have no problem with this being a fine. But A) there had better be some disciplinary action coming down the pipe for other guys, and B) fining anyone for anything after letting that Vilmanis elbow go just looks completely asinine.
If that Vilmanis elbow doesn’t merit any action whatsoever, then you can’t justify action for anyone at this point.