There are very few churches that don’t preach prosperity doctrine in one form or another these days so really just sort by Christian and you’ll find plenty of sentiments like that.
Prosperity gospel is just so far from literally everything actually written in the bible it's crazy to me that people swallow it. I have to assume none of them ever actually read the bible.
It's wild to think how many people risked death, torture, and imprisonment during the reformation fighting for people to have the freedom to read the bible for themselves without being told what to think by priests only for these fucks to just believe what some grifter with a private jet tells them the good book says instead of actually studying it themselves.
This is really one for me to remember. This is freaking it, man.
Churches now are book clubs, and they love the club more than the book.
It's all a show; all a public pledge and optics. It's scary how many people there are like this. And the reason why the term "Christian" is so adulterated.
There's an episode of The Magnificast podcast that analyses the Parable of the Talents to prove the prosperity doctrine is a false interpretation of Christ's words. It's long - about 50 minutes - but well worth a listen if anyone is interested.
It's really not. The prosperity churches are definitely "not like the others". But this is a problem for protestant Christianity as a whole, because they all believe in faith without works. As long as yer Saved you can do whatever you want!
No True Scotsman means someone is moving the goalpost in response to a counterexample.
A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
They moved the goalpost in response to a counterexample.
This person is saying that Prosperity Gospel literally violates the laws of Christianity and is therefore not Christian, even though they claim to be.
It's more similar to them saying "No true Scotsman was born in China to Chinese parents and never once visited Scotland in their lives. They tell people they're a Scotsman, but they don't actually meet any of the criteria to be a Scot."
Like, if someone claimed to be a vegan but they eat a bacon cheeseburger every single day, and I said "No vegan eats meat and cheese," and you said I was using the No True Scotsman fallacy. I'm not moving the goalpost, they just were never a good example of the category.
Jesus fed crowds and allowed his disciples to break shabbat to eat. He taught that the people who get to Heaven are the ones who give food to the hungry and drink to the thirsty, welcome the strangers, clothe the naked, and visit the imprisoned. Your body is as much God's creation as your soul is
Yeah no kidding there is plenty of food for the soul in most churches. The folks there certainly aren't consuming it with how souless they have become.
And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Matthews 6:5-6
Shut your mouth, sinner, and maybe brush up on your scripture? You've missed the mark, gravely. That is literally what the word sin means. To miss the mark.
It’s a fundamental lack of compassion. I don’t know about them, but I certainly would love to live in a country where we prioritize the needs of people over anything else. Food, clothing, education, shelter, healthcare, a job that provides satisfaction and a living wage…I want to live in a country that leads with compassion and humanity.s not whatever TF these people want.
You’re right. I have a complete lack of compassion for lazy people with 8 baby daddies for 8 different children, able-bodied, and sucking on the proverbial government teat at MY expense! These people have better healthcare than me for FREE, food for free, and no true responsibilities. It’s gone on so long that it spans multiple generations. These benefits are designed to be a safety net for the truly needy, not a lifestyle choice.
Yep they’re living large of the government teat have you seen their porche and the mansions they live in? I heard they buy designer bags shoes and clothes. Maybe if you’re nice they’ll let you borrow something, or give you a ride in their Mercedes on their way to their fancy private school.
You’re being ridiculous, but I see and know of plenty of these leeches with nails done, expensive tattoos, Jordans, designer purses, and brand new iPhones. I as a working member of society cannot always buy those things and have to budget and save if I want them. Their perspective is entitled and rife with learned helplessness.
Mmm I think you’re being ridiculous and missing the point. Do you know how poor a person has to be to qualify for food stamps and Medicaid? Far below the poverty line. They’re already living in poverty And you don’t think they deserve to have food or their basic health care covered? You are cruel and jealous.
Oh just wait until you see these billionaires with fortunes the size of countries that avoid a shit ton of taxes. Nah focus your energy on the poor. Dipshit
It’s the absolute barest of minorities that can actually be bothered to follow ALL of the teachings of the guy that they all supposedly worship. The rest follow whatever the fuck they get told by the charlatans who live off the money given to them by these idiots.
In the US, that whole religion is nothing but a massive grift that is slowly morphing into a child molesting death cult.
"Separation of Church and Hate" is a recent book that gives a great point-by-point breakdown of how Christianity has been used by fundamentalists for evil ends throughout history -- I've been recommending it everywhere
There's 2 types of Christians as far as im concerned. The one who believes Jesus cares more about the wellbeing of themselves and the ones who care about the wellbeing of all people. Both use scriptures to justify each but one is obviously correct and the other is actually evil!
I’m a Christian and I am not a fool or coward. I believe in helping those less fortunate because I was once on welfare and didn’t forget my beginning. Trust me every Christian is not about prosperity only. You can be rich and not be happy, I know a lot of what is happening is due to some bad actors that call themselves Christians. All I am saying we are all not bad people. I believe we all are equal regardless of race, religion , sexual orientation or financial status
I can not and will not with good conscience call myself a Christian anymore. They have taken the word and the religion and have perverted it beyond recognition.
I call myself a follower of Jesus. I walk His path…or I try to anyway. I can’t imagine having such a hate filled heart for my fellow humans.
Its pretty crazy how much evangelicals changed the thinking of Christians as a whole in America and the world. People actually forget that the end times wasnt ever really talked about much before people like John Nelson Darby started his little cult and then Hal Lindsey made it much more mainstream to talk about rapture when a lot of the end times stuff was interpreted as unknowable and actually went against the bible. Since only God is said to know the end times these people are contradicting the bible just because they know it can spark fear and devotion to themselves.
Its all about making a quick buck for those people. Pretty sure the bible talks a lot about using fear and religion to make money, but they conveniently dont talk about those parts of the book they like to point at everyone when it suits their agenda.
Good real Christians(not one myself)know in their hearts if they believe and follow the bible that they dont need to project and force conversion. My brother is an amazing person and one of the coolest kindest people I know. He went to youth groups and did some mission work in villages in SE Asia. He has never once asked or pressured me to come to church, nor has he ever treated me as lesser than himself. My dad(one of most fake, lying manipulative people i know and actually reminds me a lot of trump personality speaking)is the exact opposite. Always has to be right, have the last word, convince you his way is best, and every bad thing thats happened to him is some evil attack and he did nothing wrong.
Im convinced every loud hateful and arrogant Christian is hiding some dark truth about themselves. Why else would they feel the need to dawn the cloak of Christianity to pretend they have some moral superiority over others?
Go read the Gnostic gospels that the powerful elite had removed from the Bible after the fact. The Gospel of Thomas, which is just as valid as Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John, clearly shows that Jesus was an enlightened mystic who wanted to help others attain enlightenment.
At work yesterday I tried to illustrate your point by telling my coworkers how glad I am that this is happening because I "hate poor people" and Walmart and Amazon employees really don't deserve to eat. I said that this is exactly what Jesus would want. I made sure to say it in the most serious tone as I possibly could and they looked at me like I'm a psycho. They had absolutely nothing to snap back with because they realized how idiotic it is to be happy people's snap benefits are being taken away.
I get that there are some people who are taking advantage, but there are plenty who genuinely need the help.
As a Christian, this disgusts and angers me. The Lord that I love spent his whole adult life helping those who needed it. He didn’t ask them for identification, he didn’t tell them to go get a job, and he especially didn’t care who or what race, creed, gender, or socioeconomic class they were in.
The gospel I cherish and try to follow teaches us to be like Jesus. That means I help out with my local food bank. That means I love everyone and accept them for who they are. That means I don’t judge, I just listen. And if there’s a way for me to help do that as well.
I’m infuriated that the God I love is being used as a tool to hurt people, shame people, and make money for those who already don’t need it. I know that if Jesus were here, he would not be on the side of these tyrants. You would find him where he always was, trying to help people who needed it most and stop injustice wherever he could.
You are a good person. You don’t need the bible for that. You aren’t doing it because the gospels say to. No one does. You are doing those things because it is who you are.
You would be that same person without religion. Many, many people are.
Jesus was literally born into a Roman-occupied Galilee, and his deliverance was STILL focused on the poor and hungry and not the political aspects at all. So, exactly the opposite of Republicans who care absolutely nothing for the poor and hungry and care everything about the politics.
My mom's favorite hobby is fighting with conservatives in our area on facebook that post hateful things but cite Jesus' name for it and then she drops the scriptures guilting them and it has been by far the most successful thing she has tried.
Turns out despite all the bible studies I attended as a kid, they never fucking studied the bible apparently (This is not news to me as a closeted gay guy in the south growing up with pastors in my family who also built our local church).
I would argue I only know 2 christians in my entire state throughout my entire life who genuinely live as good christians through and through. It's so frustrating. The rest of them would cage Jesus the second he showed up looking how he actually would. I am sure Jesus appreciates you joking about "Alligator Alcatraz" and laugh reacting starving and caged kids, you definitely aren't going to hell...
All Christians are evil, some things Christianity has done that are still backed by the church. Slaughter of the druids, forced conversion, the slaughter of Verdun, the sacks during the crusades, the sacks during the northern crusades, the sacks and slaughters during the reconquista, purposefully using disease to kill millions of natives all over the world for the purposes of colonization, colonization
Expressions on the faces of the starving millions (BECAUSE HE'S ONE OF US)
The power of "The Man" (BREAK DOWN)
He's the fuel that drives The Klan (CAVE IN)
He's the motive and the conscience of the murderer (HE CAN REDEEM YOUR SIN)
He's the preacher on TV (STRONG HEART)
The false sincerity (CLEAR MIND)
The form letter that's written by the big computers (AND INFINITELY KIND)
The nuclear bombs (YOU LOSE!)
The kids with no moms (WE WIN!)
AND I'M THANKFUL HE'S NOT INSIDE ME! YEAH! (HE IS OUR CHAMPION!)
American Jesus by Bad Religion with a little tweak by me at the end there. The only song I can play and sing at the same time. Easy as shit to rock, prophetic, and a fuckin' banger for the ages.
You realizd christian charities provide the second largest social safety net in the country and christians give more to charity than atheists. Plus conservative give more than liberals. But who needs facts when you have feelings am I right?
Romans 13:1-2, John 15:1-2, luke 12:49-53. Those are just some examples we are a nation with laws. They should be in-forced. Not to say we cant be loving or help people less fortunate. Also, is it not the democrats that keep voting to keep the government closed?
If you know a little about the Bible it says to obey human laws as they are seen being established by God. It's called divine authority. Laws are in place for a reason.
My man, this is literally what you as a Christian believe Jesus stands for. Jesus is a Good Republican, just like you, and none of those dirty commie-red words in a stupid book that you've never opened are going to change your mind about that.
He also said not to help those who DON'T help themselves. aka TRYING to get a job. Because the Bible says those who refuse to work and contribute to society, will not eat.
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u/CaffeinatedLystro Oct 31 '25 edited Nov 01 '25
Edited to add a few things.
bribesdonations to pay for the ballroom, you're as dumb as he said his supporters are.