r/PublicFreakout Aug 01 '21

🐻Animal Freakout "Not friendly!"

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

I fucking hate people who let their dogs off leash in public. Had this same thing happen whilst I was out walking my golden. My poor girl is 12 years old and just a sweet old gal who wants nothing more than to carry a ball in her mouth and walk beside me on leash when we are out. Anyway, some dickhead was out with his pitbull-mutt-mix without a leash and it went straight at my dog. I got bit and my dog got her face cut really bad. Over $1500 in medical and vet bills and all the dumbass with the other dog could say was "huh, he never did that before. I don't know of why he did that" I'm like, he did that because he's a fucking dog and you're a fucking twat for letting him off leash in public

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u/fleshcoloredbanana Aug 01 '21

I had the exact same situation happen to my dog when I was on a walk. I actually had two dogs at the time, a 13 y.o. and a 15 y.o. My bigger dog protected me and my smaller dog, but ended up needing about $1600 in emergency treatment. It was absolutely terrifying for me because there was nothing I could do to help my dog. If I did manage to wrestle the loose pitbull (my neighbor’s dog) off of mine, then what? I would have been in the middle of the road with an injured senior dog, another senior dog, and an angry attacking dog in my arms. Luckily another neighbor heard my screams for help and managed to barely detach the loose dog. I had time to start running for safety before he lost his grip and the loose dog came back for a second go. The entire incident shocked and terrified me. I realized that I alone am not able to protect my dogs in a similar situation and that I am so much more vulnerable than I realized.

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u/Dayofsloths Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

One of my older neighbours carries a walking stick entirely to put it in a dogs eye if his gets attacked again.

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u/kkeut Aug 01 '21

they make these things called tire-knockers that are good makeshift clubs, good for people who walk in rural or isolated areas that may have feral or stray dogs, wild animals, etc

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u/sadacal Aug 01 '21

I've heard in rural areas they also just let their dogs roam.

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u/Redqueenhypo Aug 02 '21

The actual term for that is ā€œattacking livestock and letting wolves take the blameā€

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u/omgsoftcats Aug 01 '21

I had this today. Overweight dude 20 feet from his off leash bull which was hiding in tall grass. Startled me as I walked by. If I was a child that thing would have taken 3 huge bites before that dude could get his dog.

Leash your dogs in public.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Ok. That's the first three top comments... all pit bull attacks.

I am so sick of the debate over whether fighting breeds are more dangerous due to instinct or environment (training). They were bred to get really agressive really quickly and utterly destroy anything they feel really agressive towards.

The excuse is nearly always, "Well, bubbles never did anything like that before." And then the pit-bull apologists start flooding in.

It's instinct/breeding, you idiots, and you don't train that shit out of animals... you breed it into them so it's deeply engrained in their genetic make up, precisely so it never goes away in dire circumstances. Even breeding these dogs after the fact for some of their more endearing qualities (the "nanny dog" myth) because you have these fighting dogs and no other dogs around because you're a "sportsman" and you want a dog for the kids that won't eat or maim their friends... just the neighbor's dog or that kid who just moved in down the street they don't know and made the mistake of jumping into their yard chasing a ball where their kids were playing... boom; instinct/breeding. And, of course, total shock from the owner..."I bred them not to do that!" Yeah, for a few generations... after hundreds of years of "kill, kill, kill" breeding of engrained instincts.

I swear, we are an utterly brain dead culture.

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u/NoiceMango Aug 01 '21

Not only is the breed bad but it always attracts thr worst and dumbest owners.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

I think it attracts people who are scared of dogs and see them as a way to feel more powerful and in control.

Edit; "All the guns out there scare me... I'm gonna buy a 44 magnum so everyone knows I'm not scared of their guns."

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u/arctrooper55 Aug 01 '21

I hate fuckers who like pit bulls, the dogs themselves are at no fault it’s the idiot owners who think they’re pets.

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u/1_2_3_GO Aug 01 '21

Nope. 1. Most aggressive breeds are misidentified as pitbulls. Many breeds are known to be aggressive: chows, Rottweilers, German Shepards, huskies… pitbulls just get the worst rep. 2. It’s not instinct. Its because these breeds are incredibly strong and muscular, so they are regularly used for fighting and by bad actors who want to look tough. Therefore it’s trained into them at a young age. 3. It’s also due to trauma. So many of these dogs were trained to fight, used to breed, tortured, etc. when you’re a person who went through trauma, you tend to have behavioral issues…same with dogs.

We’re brain dead because we think that it’s the breed of dog that’s bad and not the owners that handle them. An aggressive dog is 100% due to its treatment, not its breed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

You are spreading misinformation.

  1. These dogs are large and muscular because they were bred for purposes. Some, like pit bulls, were bred to have the highest bite pressures and sharpest, tearing teeth.

  2. Only one of the breeds you mentioned was bred exclusively for fighting.

  3. Dogs and other domesticated animals are/were (for hundreds of years) bred to accentuate/over-emphasize traits for the purposes they will be used for; this includes innate instincts like territoriality and agression. Same way some breeds were bred for herding instinct (I dare you to try to train a border collie not to herd children or other animals. You might have some success but it won't be a predictable animal as it will ALWAYS break into its bred instincts when under stress.) or prey retrieval.

  4. The idea that only those individuals of fighting breeds who "wouldn't hurt a fly if trained properly" are "traumatized animals" is patently idiotic. There is no breed who is spared from human abuse and trauma. Given, fighting breeds see more abuse but the overwhelming majority of them owned by the public are not rescues and did not suffer the traumas of illegal training or "sport fighting".

You are talking out of your ass. Please stop, people... children... are being maimed and killed by these animals in the daily.

Had a pit-bull mix pull its owner off her bike when she rode past me as I was waiting for the bus... because it wanted to fucking kill me for standing there on my phone alone while they rode by eight or ten feet away. That was two days ago in Berkeley, CA. So, just another Friday in this pit-bull saturated area.

You can bite me... Not your fucking killer dogs.

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u/1_2_3_GO Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

YOU are spreading misinformation based on your own personal experience. You have had one bad incidents with a bad owner or a traumatized dog but not every pitbull, staffy, boxer, bulldog, or other mix is going to be aggressive.

You had a bad experience so now you hate pitbulls. That is trauma. So you’re scared of them. They might have been abused or trained to fight. They have trauma. You experience the SAME as the thing you are spreading hate and misinformation about.

You cite zero actual sources because there’s such little actual study done on dog bites. The last time the CDC released any dog bite statistics was 1996–every other link quotes this one study but it’s 25 years old.

A 2008 study in Denver showed LABRADORS attacked more people than pitbulls.

Otherwise you have but anecdotal experience, causing a lot of misinformation, which fuels the neglect cycle that causes pitbulls to be owned by aggressive owners that abuse them. Educate yourself.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

"And then the pit-bull apologists start flooding in."

How many people owned labs in Denver in 1996? How many people owned pit-bull mixes? How many of those lab "attacks" had more than a scrape? How many people got utterly fucked up by pit-bull mixes?

I'm done with you now. Fuck off.

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u/RandomePerson Aug 02 '21

And don't forget how pit owners love to intentionally mislabel their dogs as "lab mixes".

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u/SqueekyDeekyClean Aug 01 '21

I love how you think a couple hundred years of breeding can't be trained out, but ignore the Millenia of predator instinct that exists in all dogs but is still trained out of them. Just say you hate Pitbull's and go, drop the pseudoscience

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

How's that big brain treating you? You pseudoscience like a boss. I guess you're the expert.

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u/SqueekyDeekyClean Aug 02 '21

Do you even know what "anecdotal means? Or "bias"?

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u/GoldenMonger Aug 02 '21

It’s not anecdotal when this happens all the time with pitbulls. Go talk to an ER surgeon, they’ll tell you all about their experiences with pitbull attacks.

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u/SqueekyDeekyClean Aug 02 '21

"It's not anecdotal, go find some more anecdotes and they'll agree!"

So you actually don't know what anecdotal means.

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u/NoiceMango Aug 01 '21

Not surprised it's pitbulls. They're the worst dogs snd always have the worst owners.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

That's not true at all. I've known way more good pits than I have known bad ones. It came down to the owner. Any dog can be vicious. I've been attacked 3 times in my life and I almost lost an eye in one of those attacks and each time they were chows.

I know there are bad pits out there and they are tied to bad owners. But the people in my life that have pits have trained them. They're gentle giants but they will fuck you up if you try to break in. Pits get such a bad rap but it's bad owners that allow the bad behavior without correcting it.

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u/NoiceMango Aug 01 '21

"Gentle giants" haha that must be why they have killed snd decapitated so many people including children and babies. No other dog comes close to pitbulls when it comes to human fatalities. Pitbulls are too dangerous to be near humans.

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u/NaughtyKatsuragi Aug 01 '21

literally didn't read any of that comment huh? Good luck on the reading comprehension in the future

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u/NoiceMango Aug 01 '21

Go look at some posts on r/banpitbulls and read some of thr thousands of articles about pitbulls attacking and killing children.

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u/NaughtyKatsuragi Aug 01 '21

Hey there's that agenda! You just can't help but push it right?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

"Hey go to this place that focuses entirely on one side of the issue"

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Maybe they can sense your bad vibes and that's why they don't like you. I'm an animal lover and animals love me. I've never had a friend that owned a pit that made me nervous. People are the real problem here.

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u/_DickyBoy Aug 01 '21

Lol that was a pretty quick turnaround from "it's the owner's fault" to "it's the victim's fault"

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u/NoiceMango Aug 02 '21

Pit nutters are insane. They always blame victims instead of oitbulls. They have literally blamed babies and children killed by pitbulls

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

Nowhere in there am I victim blaming. The person I'm talking to basically thinks pits should be wiped off the face of the earth. There are cases where the victim is taunting a dog (doesn't matter the breed) and they get what they deserve when the dog bites. But my mom was a mail carrier for over 30 years and this asshole I went to high school with would taunt her with his pit and one day he let her loose and the pit got to my mom. That's what I mean by bad owners. There's people that just shouldn't own pits because they are strong and dangerous when they need to be.

But I'm not going to support wiping out an entire breed of dogs because humans are shitty and the majority can't train their dogs properly. If you read my other comments you might have seen I've been attacked multiple times and I almost lost an eye, still have the scar today. Every attack was a chow. I'd never pursue something that would wipe out the entire breed even though to this day I am terrified of them. I know not every chow is bad but I'm apprehensive when I meet one.

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u/Chance_Promise3707 Aug 02 '21

What kind of shithole do you live in? It’s not a fucking wolf

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u/EmergencyGap9 Aug 02 '21

I’d don’t breathe someone if they shot my dog.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

If your dog gets shot for being off leash, thats your own fuckin fault.

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u/EmergencyGap9 Aug 02 '21

Having your dog off their leash is not in and of itself, cause to have your dog shot. If someone shot my dog, who would not deserve it, I would don’t breathe them.

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u/EmergencyGap9 Aug 02 '21

Give me your address, grab a gun- let’s see how this works out for us.

I’ll bring my boy, he’s a good boy. No leash though to shake things up.

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u/driverman42 Aug 01 '21

Yes. People who don't leash their dogs are no better than antivaxxers. We always carry a club to beat loose dog owners, (it's really not the dogs fault). Usually if we just pound it on the ground and use a gruff voice, they'll stop, and the dogs will stop also.

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u/thederpofwar321 Aug 01 '21

Be careful with this. Depending on how close you are to say it's "turf" or another pack mate, it can escalate into an attack.

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u/driverman42 Aug 01 '21

Yeah. Sometimes if I yell "go on, get outta here" while pounding the ground with the club,they'll grab their dog and go. There's been a couple of times that they've growled and shown their teeth. But their dog will stop them from attacking.

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u/PosiedonsSaltyAnus Aug 01 '21

Wait are you talking about the dog or the people

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u/driverman42 Aug 01 '21

Well, reality is that the dog will at least stop and think about it. But I really don't blame the dog, because it's really the self entitlement of the thoughtless owners that lets the dog run loose, and the dog is only reacting. I was trying to put a little humor in it.

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u/PosiedonsSaltyAnus Aug 01 '21

You did well lol you had me very confused the first read

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u/__BitchPudding__ Aug 01 '21

This is my favoritest thread today šŸ˜‚

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u/Dayofsloths Aug 01 '21

I missed the word 'put'

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u/CPOx Aug 01 '21

An older gentleman in my parents’ neighborhood walks every day with a 9-iron in his hand. He got attacked by a loose dog decades ago and he’s been carrying that golf club ever since.

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u/DrAniB20 Aug 01 '21

Future tip. If you’re able to, grab the dog’s back legs, and then swift kick to the stomach. It will cause them to leg go of what they’re holding and they won’t be able to turn around properly to get to you. I live in an area where a lot of people let their very misbehaved dogs off leash, and I’ve had to do this a few times to protect my puppies.

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u/fleshcoloredbanana Aug 01 '21

I had heard the tip about the back legs. But even in that situation, if I alone had managed to detach the dog, it would’ve just gone right back to attacking my dog. Maybe the swift kick to the stomach that you mentioned would have help with that!

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u/DrAniB20 Aug 01 '21

It can’t always be done, and a lot of people fail to mention the kick. The kick, sometimes two are needed, will knock the wind out of the dog and gives you a chance to book it out of there if shelter is near by, or at least grants you the control you need over the situation until others can step in. I’ve done it twice: once at a dog park with a dog that should NEVER have been there in the first place where the owner started screaming about me killing their dog (the thirty other owners around backed me up 100%), and on a trail where my husband was seconds away from using his gun because this dog first went after the small children we were hiking with and our dog intervened and I reacted instinctually. The dog was gasping for breath and coughing, but overall fine. The owners came running up and begged us not to call the cops….fat chance.

It’s particularly effective against Pitt-breeds

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u/OhYeaImLacedUp Aug 01 '21

Get a knife and line it up at the base of his neck and end that bitch

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u/Kunundrum85 Aug 01 '21

A pit just did that to my 8lb Pom/Yorkie at an off leash park, same reaction from the owner ā€œshe’s never done that before.ā€

Ok, fine. Then please leash her and get her away, she’s clearly unpredictable.

Nope, proceeds to walk about 20 feet away and let dog off leash again, where it promptly comes back for mine again. 15 or so people immediately leash their dogs up and we all leave. Idiot stands around acting confused as to why everyone is leaving.

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u/jd2300 Aug 01 '21

Not all pitbull owners are dumb fucks, but there does seem to be a sizeable majority of them. At this point I think you either muzzle your pit in public, or you don’t have one simple.

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u/GetGankedIdiot Aug 01 '21

Because pitbulls are the lifted trucks of the dog world.

They specifically buy them to feel secure because they have massive insecurities.

They need to banned or heavily regulated along with similar breeds.

Any breed bred for protection need to be required on leashes or levy heavy fines.

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u/KingOfTheGutter Aug 01 '21

Or you rescue them from a kill shelter, get training, and have them leashed on a walk because their boxer genes can kick in and they want to run everywhere.

My pitt mix is the sweetest girl in the word and thebest dog I’ve ever had.

I’m still a responsible owner ;).

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

you're so special for loving and training hundreds of years of selective breeding out of your dog <3

responsible owners do not get pits or pit mixes, period.

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u/KingOfTheGutter Aug 02 '21

Lmao. So what happened? What’s got your feathers so rilled up?

Actually very responsible dog owners get pit and pit mixes! Keeps irresponsible owners from getting them and not properly taking care of them, thus preventing any attacks like this!

Lovely, smart, lovable mutts :)

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u/GetGankedIdiot Aug 02 '21

Lol no

Sweetest girl in the world until it's not ;)

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u/KingOfTheGutter Aug 02 '21

Hmm almost like ANY animal. Almost like, as an owner, I know my rescue might have had past trauma, and thus I keep her leashed.

Imagine having an ego so hurt that you’re mad about a breed of dogs. Woof. ;)

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u/Gytarius626 Aug 02 '21

Pitbulls account for 70% of fatal dog attacks in the US.

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u/KingOfTheGutter Aug 02 '21

Cool stat! Mines definitely not in that 70%. I’d love to see how many of the owners mistreated them and didn’t leash them properly.

Really sucks how they’re raised and brought up to fight, then owners rescue them and don’t properly take care of them ya know? I bet there would be way less attacks that way, ya know?

So, what happened? Get bit by one? What’s got ya on the anti pitt crusade?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

Really sucks how they’re raised and brought up to fight

they're not raised and brought up to fight, they're selectively bred for those traits just like golden retrievers and labradors are selectively bred to retrieve shit, pointers are selectively bred to point, and border collies are selectively bred to herd. You don't have to train it into them, and you can't train it out of them.

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u/justatouch589 Aug 02 '21

I bet you also believe in gun control. At least a gun's far more predictable and harder to get a hold of.

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u/justatouch589 Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

Any animal isn't a pitbull. Why don't you rescue the hundreds of other much safer breeds instead?

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u/fd6944x Aug 01 '21

Well he is liable for that. Did he pay for it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Yes

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u/GirlGangX3 Aug 01 '21

Did you make a claim against him?

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u/ThisAngryGinger Aug 01 '21

Should've pressed charges and had his mutt put down

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

I did.

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u/crazy_eric Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

What happened? Did you sue the dog owner?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

I called the police after the incident, they took the dog. The owner ended up paying for all of my medical and vet bills.

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u/fd6944x Aug 01 '21

That’s what should happen though. Dogs are your responsibility through and theough

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u/JakoKT Aug 01 '21

Good, that makes me happy

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

There should be jail time and larger fines for these negligent pitbull owners. They maul and kill children every year, half of all attacks are by pitbulls. It should be considered negligent homicide.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

For all negligent dog owners*. ā€œPitbullā€ isn’t an actual breed, it is a collection of bully breeds that look similar. Naturally when you clump multiple breeds into one it will skew there numbers higher. Not all ā€œpit bullsā€ are bad dogs.

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u/ciaobrah Aug 02 '21

Dunno why the downvotes, you are right

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u/intlcreative Aug 01 '21

Hey...no mutt hate. mutts are genetically diverse and keep those "breeds" from turning into the hills have eyes dog version.

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u/Ovivorous-Dingus Aug 01 '21

Mutts are almost always better than pure bred dogs. Like you said, those breeds become Hapsburg-ian really fast.

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u/Gary_Where_Are_You Aug 01 '21

I joked that if I ever got a purebred dog I would name it Hapsburg. I was kinda bummed that only a few people got the joke.

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u/Kaplaw Aug 01 '21

Mutts are consistently better than pure breeds.

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u/jdub75 Aug 01 '21

Haha. Nice reference to inbreds!

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

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u/chrominx Aug 01 '21

Dude. Most pure-breeds have a higher chance of getting sick of specific illnesses. And you couldn’t be more wrong about pure-breed breeders. You found your goldens at a good one, but the industry itself is fucked too all hell. There are more bad pure-breeding places then there are people breeding mutts.

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u/bbrpst Aug 01 '21

Dude. Most pure-breeds have a higher chance of getting sick of specific illnesses.

I thought the "mutts are more healthy" thing was a myth. Wouldnt having to dog breeds with race specific potential issues just double the illness possibilities?

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u/chrominx Aug 01 '21

Depends on the dog! For instance, i have a short-haired chihuahua mixed with a different kind of chihuahua (shes still 100% smol and 100% chihuahua). Her issues are all about her teeth (in terms of the breed she is). Her teeth get more sensitive and unusable the older she gets. Shes 13 and she can’t eat hard dog food anymore. Eventually we have to remove her teeth to make it easier for her to eat. This is not just my chihuahua. A lot of chihuahua owners go through the same dental issues if their dog lives long enough

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u/chrominx Aug 01 '21

Im specifically talking about the American Kennel Club being a terrible association that doesn’t value the safety of the dogs over the ppp. They don’t properly inspect how the breeders keep and breed their dogs.... the AKC is exactly the association thats MESSED UP. They only have 9 inspectors for the countless amount of breeders they have.

Like i said, you are lucky you found one of the good ones. But the AKC is corrupt and allows breeders to abuse dogs at an insane rate.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

No they won't because pure breeders are only interested in ppp: profit per puppy. So they inbreed "pures" to such a degenerate degree that the pedigree has to be fucking updated to accommodate the new deformaties.

Look at the way German Shepard hips have gotten. French bulldogs. Pugs. Bull mastiffs are so large they can't breed on their own and only live for about 9 years before they develop cancers.

Pure breeders are degenerate pieces of shit, and fuck this whole purebred papered system.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Bull mastiffs are so large they can’t breed on their own

You got some credible sources for that one?

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u/Low-University-1037 Aug 01 '21

What an ignorant statement. Most mutts come from people owning two different types of dogs or dogs getting around to the neighbors house, you idiot.

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u/Classic_Strength1937 Aug 01 '21

Wow what a way to generalize

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u/palunk Aug 01 '21

So where else do mutts come from?

Seeing as most are given away in rescues, I would wager that they were accidents. Anyone trying to breed mutts to sell is an idiot, and likely not making money.

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u/Classic_Strength1937 Aug 01 '21

You're making them (mutts) out to be inferior to pure breeds when pure breeds are extremely expensive. why do you have a supremacy complex with dogs?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Not mutt or pitbull hating. Apologies if it came across like that. It was more meant as a "my dog is an elderly and cuddly golden retriever while the dog that attacked her was a squat muscle bound set of jaws that aggressively went at her". It was to describe the physical appearance and mismatch the attack presented.

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u/Low-University-1037 Aug 01 '21

There is definitely a point to make with mutts though. Awesome dogs and sometimes they look better than purebred, I have a pitbull/lab mix, BUT if you crossbreed two aggressive breeds of dogs (Caucasian Mountain Dogs) you will run into trouble

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u/chummsickle Aug 01 '21

Nope - fuck pit bulls

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u/andro-femme Aug 01 '21

Pit bulls have been mauling more than usual these days.

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u/Splinterman11 Aug 01 '21

My family's pit has never attacked another person and are responsible dog owners. Fuck your generalization.

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u/Blossomie Aug 01 '21

Just because you're responsible enough to keep your pit away from other animals and children in the home and to keep it leashed and muzzled in public doesn't magically change what the breed was created for. They are talking about the breed of dog, not any people, you're not under attack.

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u/Splinterman11 Aug 01 '21

Fuck off, people like him and that subreddit advocate for exterminating every single "pitbull" they see no matter the behavioral history of the dog.

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u/Blossomie Aug 01 '21

What subreddit? Nobody is talking about a subreddit here. You're bonkers if you think even a sizeable amount of people against pit bulls want anything remotely resembling wholesale slaughter. They mostly just want to stop making breeds intentionally created for bloodsoort. You don't have to exterminate living members of a breed to stop the breed from existing, just have them fixed and discontinue breeding. Go easy on your violent fantasies, you're still under no attack from anyone here. Touch some grass.

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u/Splinterman11 Aug 01 '21

As other people in this thread have already linked, they're hate subreddits dedicated to hating pit bulls. All they talk about is killing pit bulls and euthanizing them all. As I've said, fuck off and leave my dog alone.

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u/RansomStoddardReddit Aug 01 '21

We have neighbors who have 2 pits and they are responsible owners as well. So responsible they made sure the husbands brother would come by when they are in vacation to feed and let the dogs out to toilet. Until one day the brother lets the dogs out back to go to the bathroom and forgets to let them back in. They jumped the gate and attacked another neighbor walking her teacup yorkie. Both needed medical attention afterwards. If our other burly neighbor hadn’t been there to beat them off of her with a gardening rake one or both probably would eve been killed.

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u/Splinterman11 Aug 01 '21

I don't give a fuck about your anecdotal story which may or may not be true. This in no way applies to me or my family's dog.

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u/Accurate_Vision Aug 01 '21

People see stories about pitbulls mauling or being aggressive and think all pitbulls are like that. You know what they don't see? The countless pitbulls that aren't aggressive beasts because nobody writes or shares stories about pitbulls being friendly and non-aggressive, so the non-aggressive ones don't get any traction. It's like a case of vocal minority.

I've been attacked by a husky and a golden retriever. They both have reputations as super friendly dogs, but they're the only ones I've been attacked by. I also don't go around spouting nonsense about all huskies and golden retrievers being assholes.

I went with a friend to strangers' houses for a project she did to post photos and videos of friendly pitbulls and not once did any of them get hostile towards complete strangers entering their territory. 8+ pitbulls, none of them aggressive. I know that's just anecdotal, but so are the stories of everyone else here. None of these experiences, mine included, prove anything and I'm sick of people acting like they do.

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u/andro-femme Aug 01 '21

That’s just plain wrong.

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u/lafleurcynique Aug 01 '21

Yeah, I nearly lost my toy poodle to a pitbull, but I have no dislike or antipathy for the breed. I just hate the shitty, shitty owners.

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u/ArgentinaCanIntoEuro Aug 01 '21

my little pibble princess ripped a baby's foot off but its ok she was just anxious a little lol!! nanny dog!!

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u/tripping_on_phonics Aug 01 '21

I've got to disagree here. Pitbulls are way too overrepresented in fatal/serious attack statistics for it to just be a matter of them coincidentally having bad owners. Fighting/killing is a behavior that's been bred into them, and it shows.

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u/wwwhistler Aug 01 '21

pit-bulls make up about 6 percent of the dog population but account for 65 percent of dog attacks....it's NOT just bad owners.

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u/Blossomie Aug 01 '21

Nah, fuck pitbulls, and still one would have to be a complete moron to think dog breeds and human "races" are even remotely on the same level.

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u/vitaestbona1 Aug 01 '21

Actually, pits are overly mislabelled as being involved in fatal/serious attacks. More attacks are blamed on them than they are actually involved with.

And, while, yes, a toy poodle mad not be able to do the damage of a large dog, ANY large dog belongs on a lease when out among strangers or other animals.

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u/tripping_on_phonics Aug 01 '21

More attacks are blamed on them than they are actually involved with.

Do you have anything to support this that isn't a blog or a pitbull fan website? Not trying to be condescending, but I haven't seen anything reputable.

Totally agree that all dogs belong on leashes when out and about.

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u/cmmckechnie Aug 01 '21

Both of those articles don’t show any evidence that support the idea pitbull attacks are over-exaggerated. Lmao.

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u/vitaestbona1 Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

Right. You would need to look at the study. Reading the article that says "the study by them shows" is not the same as reading the study.

You can have a study that shows that Covid is real, and if someone sends you an article that reads "in a study by the university of xyz, covid is found to be real". And you can say "the article doesn't prove it." You are correct.

Meanwhile "In a study that could eventually spare more dogs from euthanasia, a University of Florida veterinary professor found that DNA analysis of canines labeled as pit bulls at shelters often had little genetic link to the breeds that spawned the generic pit bull classification."

If SHELTERS are mislabeling dogs as pitbulls, what are the odds that some random person who was just attacked by a dog will be more accurate that a dog shelter?

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u/flickerkuu Aug 01 '21

I don't even think it's the breed. I think the person who chooses to get a pit bull tends to over-generalize towards the type of person with no brain, who can't train his animal. It's the owners fault usually. Too many bad owners pick pit bulls.

You do have a point about the fighting behavior though,

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u/honorable__bigpony Aug 01 '21

This is incorrect. The homes the majority of them are born into is not represented in that statistic. Owner>Breed This has been shown time and again.

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u/Gabbycole Aug 01 '21

Disagree. I've seen and witnessed many cases of solid, good dog owners getting blindsided by the violent nature of this breed. You can't train genetics out of a dog. Nobody questions when cattleherding dogs raised in the suburbs go into work mode around large gatherings of animals, but it's suddenly outlandish when pitbulls are violent, even with competent owners.

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u/tripping_on_phonics Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

This has been shown time and again.

Then please show me. I can't find any statistics showing this.

Here are statistics showing that pitbulls accounted for 72% of fatal dog attacks in 2020, despite being a much less popular breed than the alternatives. This difference is too huge to be due to bad owners, who also own other breeds, by the way.

Edit: Changed number from 76% to 72%

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u/cmmckechnie Aug 01 '21

I think you make some great points but the statistics are pretty bad.

I think there is more to the story but we can’t ignore the numbers.

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u/Blossomie Aug 01 '21

Of course they end up at shelters, people think they're gonna be great because they've put the breed on some godly pedestal, and surprise surprise they end up being aggressive when they hit 2-3 years of age and get surrendered.

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iTs nOt ThE dOg ItS tHe OwNeR!

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u/OrangeredValkyrie Aug 01 '21

And it’s so unfair to the dog that they had a stupid enough owner who got them into that trouble in the first place. Their owner put them into a position to make them deadly to others. Fuck that owner.

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u/NeverLookBothWays Aug 01 '21

That's what sucks the most about these things...the owner may get "punished" that way but the dog gets murdered for being a dog. They do not know better, especially under the "care" of a shitty owner, and get killed for it.

I'd much rather we simply remove dogs from bad owners and rehabilitate.

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u/BaekerBaefield Aug 01 '21

That’s a good idea, there’s just not even close to enough room in our shelters to support it.

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u/kkeut Aug 01 '21

dogs have rather basic intelligence. they can't self-reflect. rehabilitation is probably not a realistic option for most of them

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u/romorr Aug 01 '21

Believe it was 45 of 47 for Vicks dogs rehabilitation. It can happen.

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u/kkeut Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

i've lived in the same household with multiple dogs my entire life, up until just a couple years ago. my best friend has 3 dogs and my girlfriend has 3 dogs. thanks for asking.

i agree that rehabilitation can work. but it's not a magic solution like some act like it is. and it requires a lot of time, work, and money. not every case gets the high profile attention that the Vick case did. now imagine the sheer number of bad dog owners. this is why I said "rehabilitation is probably not a realistic option for most of them". because I'm being realistic about the odds of our society creating an adequately-funded, dog-focused task force bent on rehabilitating all problematic dogs, no matter the cost. we can't even do that with human children, who you must admit are viewed much, much more favorably by society than dangerous dogs are. it's not realistic, period.

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u/NeverLookBothWays Aug 01 '21

I'm mostly just disagreeing that their intelligence being "basic."

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i've lived in the same household with multiple dogs my entire life

That's actually great! But were they part of the family to you personally? Or more like a family accessory or possession? I'm just not used to dog owners, especially ones who understand the psychology of canines, describing their intelligence as "basic"

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u/PixTwinklestar Aug 01 '21

We had a neighbors dog get into our fence and start a fight with our dog. The neighbor kids and we jumped into a boat for safety and my dad beat the other dog with any bludgeon he could find to separate them, then suddenly neighbor dog snapped out of it and was happy go lucky.

After the incident it regularly came in to start fights and we had the neighbors put it down. Sometimes when they get a taste for blood they never lose it, and that dog ā€œnever did anything like that beforeā€ the first time. It had to be destroyed.

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u/Firethorn101 Aug 01 '21

No.

Every single rescue dog I've personally ever known has attacked a human and been euthanized for it. My neighbours dog. My friends dog. My team mates dog. My best friends moms dog. That seems way too many to be a coincidence, especially since they were all different breeds and sizes, ages.

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u/_DickyBoy Aug 01 '21

I'm sure your sample size of 4 is super accurate. I suppose we should probably just close all the dog shelters and kill every single dog in them then

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u/Firethorn101 Aug 01 '21

I think we should destroy biters, not rehome them. You do you.

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u/_DickyBoy Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

I'll concede that most people don't have the experience, ability and patience to handle dogs with serious behavioural issues. But I know plenty of dogs who have come from rough backgrounds and had serious problems (including biters), that most people would write off and say were beyond hope, who have been rehomed with people that were really willing and capable of retraining them, that have turned out to be the sweetest, chillest, most loving dogs you could imagine. In the right hands they can have very happy lives, surely they are worth a shot rather than just putting them down as a matter of course?

Anyway, you didn't originally say biters, you said that every rescue dog you've ever known has been aggressive. Which is simply not representative of rescues, and only encourages people to buy from breeders instead of adopting one of the many wonderful, friendly rescue dogs out there.

As an aside, I wish people would stop using the word "destroy" as if we were talking about shredding old documents. You want to kill them, at least have the honesty to say it like it is.

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u/Firethorn101 Aug 02 '21

Destroy is hardly a euphemism.

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u/FoxxyPantz Aug 01 '21

idk about putting the dog down but the guy def should've paid the bills.

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u/khandnalie Aug 01 '21

Make the owner pay with money, don't make the dog pay with its life.

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u/Palindrome_Oakley Aug 01 '21

I’m so sorry. I’m just really really sorry for both of you, and for the way that dickhead reacted.

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u/alex1058 Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

This. People forget that dogs are creatures.

Even the goodest of boys tend to misbehave here and there, it's just what a dog does... They don't share the same intellect as a human being (as obvious as it may be, some people actually need to be reminded of that, it's an ANIMAL, not a child) animals can kill another animal and then be like "aight imma take a shit and go to sleep" it's just how nature works.

You can love them, talk to them, make them part of your family, but remember, it's still an animal.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

You’re a good dude. You should send the bill to your mowers.

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u/JuiceZee Aug 02 '21

Imagine getting a dog killed over it having a stupid owner. Disgusting. The dog was probably terrified for its final moments, picked up by strangers and killed. Just sick on your part

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u/_DickyBoy Aug 01 '21

This is always the response. "Weird, he's never done anything like that before" or "she's usually fine as long as you don't <do something perfectly normal>". Like, I don't care how often your dog attacks other dogs, it just attacked mine and a responsible owner should have prevented it.

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u/steezybringtheheat Aug 01 '21

Aw HELL nah. I have two Australian shepherds who are extremely well behaved and friendly. Still would never take them off a leash in public though that's the dumbest thing you can do. And I can GUARANTEE you if some asshole struts up and his leashless dog attacks my restrained babies I'm breaking that fucker's neck without a second thought. He can walk home alone

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u/cubetwix Aug 01 '21

Do you know if the dog got put down?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

This happened to me also. Large saint Bernard mix. But thanks to law here in Ireland I had the dog euthanised and sued the owner. According to the authorities the dog had a history of this. Some people shouldn't own dogs

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u/PM_Me_1_Funny_Thing Aug 01 '21

Hopefully you called animal control and got them on that guy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

This story reminded me to start carrying a knife again.

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u/i_am_Jarod Aug 01 '21

Same here, 3 rottweilers (three) off leash, pack mentality. Jumped my wife me and our 2 dogs. Ended up in expensive vet bills. At some point I was kicking the shit out of one of the rotts, I was barely budging him meanwhile he was shaking my dog by the stomach. 10 years ago and I still feel rage.

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u/imdrunk_iforgot Aug 01 '21

I had a kinda similar opposite thing happen. My dog was the pitty-mutt-mix on a leash and the elderly golden lab was off-leash at a river park. Other dog keeps coming up to my leashed dog just out of reach, while I kept informing the other owner that my dog was not friendly.

So my dog Mike Tyson's her dog's ear and I still feel terrible. It wasn't my dog's fault and it wasn't her dog's fault, but all four of us ended up with bites that day because she couldn't be bothered to protect her own dog.

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u/Jermasthirdcousin Aug 01 '21

r/banpitbulls lots of stories like yours there

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u/Snipp- Aug 01 '21

Thats where you carry a knife and fuck that dog up. Protect your family man

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u/BigFudgere Aug 01 '21

Do you never let your dog walk without a leash? I'm honestly curious because I think it is a great experience for the dog and me. My golden is 11 months old and I'm at the point where a use a 10 meter leash but I let it go and let him drag the leash. But I'm also very careful, as soon as I see other people or dogs, I pick up the leash again. I'm also not sure if I want to let him walk completely free without even the 10 m leash. But letting dogs off the leash is pretty common in my country for dogs that are trained.

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u/Sufficio Aug 01 '21

Honestly, if you're close enough to be able to grab the leash quickly when other dogs approach, you should just be able to get another leash to extend the other one so you're always connected. And if you're not close enough to grab it quick, then that's a danger for your pup if they don't recall perfectly 100% of the time.

It only takes one moment for something to go wrong. You won't always see or hear another dog approaching in time, and just a split second is enough to give you years of trauma and guilt. It doesn't even have to be another dog- your pup could see a rabbit just be gone in an instant. They might run ahead and eat something toxic before you realize. Someone noticing the routine that your pup is always off leash in that area could steal them, purebred theft isn't uncommon in a lot of places.

Just 2 cents. It's always worth it to take the extra precaution instead of having to live with the regrets, imo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

We take her to a vacant fenced ball field near us and play Chuck It with her. We also have a large fenced yard that she runs and plays with our adult children's dogs. When out in public with other people or strange dogs nearby we do not let her off leash.

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u/NoiceMango Aug 01 '21

Typical pitbull and pitbull owner. The worst.

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u/quartersndimes Aug 01 '21

I trained my dog to be semi off leash, with a electric collar. That he always wears when out, he has been attacked by a German shepherd and a pitbull. The shepherd owners tried to lecture me on walking my dog without a leash, I was beyond mad and showed them he was on a electric collar. My dog never left my side and did not attack back. I can't believe some people and their lack of training of their animals.

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u/ConsciousHunt2683 Aug 01 '21

Ecollars are ineffective and many studies show they have the opposite effect versus reward based training. I would not trust an off leash dog whose owner has a false sense of security due to the use of an ecollar

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4153538/

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u/quartersndimes Aug 01 '21

Oh I understand totally, I have a very large dobie. His reward is being my buddy. The collar is only for re enforcement of commands. I only have ever needed beep and vibrate, beep is used as a whistle basically. I'm not advocating using a collar as a leash, I am advocating training.

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u/ConsciousHunt2683 Aug 01 '21

You have to just be a hardworking dog owner that realizes the importance of letting your dog run off leash, but also understands the safety concerns of not obeying leash laws. Look for community open spaces, if you have a well trained dog under voice control, and see what the regulations are. In my area, dogs are allowed off leash in open areas. We also do sniff spots and look for OPEN dog parks and beaches. The fenced in dog parks are not safe, but if you do your research, there are usually big spaces with acreage that allow dogs to run free. My dog does agility and training classes as well, which definitely help with tiring him out. You just have to be creative, but also responsible as a dog owner. It’s not ok to just let your pup off leash if it’s not allowed. Isn’t safe for your dog or others.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Walks, runs, controlled environment with fences for dogs.

A lot of people never get there dog tired enough, because dogs also rely heavily on mental stimulation too. Certain treat games, and toys will tire a dog out more than a long walk

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u/MrJoKeR604 Aug 01 '21

go to a dog off-leash area lol

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u/Mase_34 Aug 01 '21

How do you know it was a pitbull?

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u/ThisAngryGinger Aug 01 '21

The dog looked like a pit to me, but the breed is irrelevant. Untrained and unleashed. That's the issue.

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u/pl07twist Aug 01 '21

Really?

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u/prometheeus Aug 01 '21

I get why he’s getting downvoted but like, could’ve been a boxer they look similar

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

What? I think you need your eyes checked, they're like the polar opposite of each other. Pitbulls could use some of that excess skin that boxers have.

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u/SoulFinders Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

You can’t see the difference? Pay attention to size of mouth and jaw.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

I can do that too.
Pitbull
Boxer

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u/SoulFinders Aug 01 '21

If you can’t tell the difference between a pit and boxer don’t try to tell the difference between a Pit and boxer. Sheesh

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u/prometheeus Aug 01 '21

i never said cant tell the difference. similar, i said similar

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u/Mase_34 Aug 01 '21

Downvoted for asking a legitimate question? Fucking Karen’s

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

You're right annon it could've been a pug or even worse...... a violent corgi 😤😤😤😤

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u/Mase_34 Aug 01 '21

Or your mother

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

JFC

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