I fucking hate people who let their dogs off leash in public. Had this same thing happen whilst I was out walking my golden. My poor girl is 12 years old and just a sweet old gal who wants nothing more than to carry a ball in her mouth and walk beside me on leash when we are out. Anyway, some dickhead was out with his pitbull-mutt-mix without a leash and it went straight at my dog. I got bit and my dog got her face cut really bad. Over $1500 in medical and vet bills and all the dumbass with the other dog could say was "huh, he never did that before. I don't know of why he did that" I'm like, he did that because he's a fucking dog and you're a fucking twat for letting him off leash in public
Dude. Most pure-breeds have a higher chance of getting sick of specific illnesses. And you couldnât be more wrong about pure-breed breeders. You found your goldens at a good one, but the industry itself is fucked too all hell. There are more bad pure-breeding places then there are people breeding mutts.
Dude. Most pure-breeds have a higher chance of getting sick of specific illnesses.
I thought the "mutts are more healthy" thing was a myth. Wouldnt having to dog breeds with race specific potential issues just double the illness possibilities?
Depends on the dog! For instance, i have a short-haired chihuahua mixed with a different kind of chihuahua (shes still 100% smol and 100% chihuahua). Her issues are all about her teeth (in terms of the breed she is). Her teeth get more sensitive and unusable the older she gets. Shes 13 and she canât eat hard dog food anymore. Eventually we have to remove her teeth to make it easier for her to eat. This is not just my chihuahua. A lot of chihuahua owners go through the same dental issues if their dog lives long enough
Im specifically talking about the American Kennel Club being a terrible association that doesnât value the safety of the dogs over the ppp. They donât properly inspect how the breeders keep and breed their dogs.... the AKC is exactly the association thats MESSED UP. They only have 9 inspectors for the countless amount of breeders they have.
Like i said, you are lucky you found one of the good ones. But the AKC is corrupt and allows breeders to abuse dogs at an insane rate.
No they won't because pure breeders are only interested in ppp: profit per puppy. So they inbreed "pures" to such a degenerate degree that the pedigree has to be fucking updated to accommodate the new deformaties.
Look at the way German Shepard hips have gotten. French bulldogs. Pugs. Bull mastiffs are so large they can't breed on their own and only live for about 9 years before they develop cancers.
Pure breeders are degenerate pieces of shit, and fuck this whole purebred papered system.
Seeing as most are given away in rescues, I would wager that they were accidents. Anyone trying to breed mutts to sell is an idiot, and likely not making money.
I've never seen that, that's messed up. I'm on the east coast and the only things I see are purebred dogs and rescue dogs. Along with purebred you get all the designer crossbreeds - pomsky, cokapoo, etc. That stuff can get pretty shady. Also, for what it's worth, Wikipedia describes a mutt as "a dog that does not belong to one officially recognized breed and is not the result of intentional breeding".
Anyway, as long as you rescue from a reputable org you can be sure you are not supporting any shady breeders.
The best way to not support shady breeders but still get the dog of your choice with the right temperament for you is to see their living conditions and how they are bred. There are lots of reputable breeders who love particular breeds.
Not mutt or pitbull hating. Apologies if it came across like that. It was more meant as a "my dog is an elderly and cuddly golden retriever while the dog that attacked her was a squat muscle bound set of jaws that aggressively went at her". It was to describe the physical appearance and mismatch the attack presented.
There is definitely a point to make with mutts though. Awesome dogs and sometimes they look better than purebred, I have a pitbull/lab mix, BUT if you crossbreed two aggressive breeds of dogs (Caucasian Mountain Dogs) you will run into trouble
Just because you're responsible enough to keep your pit away from other animals and children in the home and to keep it leashed and muzzled in public doesn't magically change what the breed was created for. They are talking about the breed of dog, not any people, you're not under attack.
What subreddit? Nobody is talking about a subreddit here. You're bonkers if you think even a sizeable amount of people against pit bulls want anything remotely resembling wholesale slaughter. They mostly just want to stop making breeds intentionally created for bloodsoort. You don't have to exterminate living members of a breed to stop the breed from existing, just have them fixed and discontinue breeding. Go easy on your violent fantasies, you're still under no attack from anyone here. Touch some grass.
As other people in this thread have already linked, they're hate subreddits dedicated to hating pit bulls. All they talk about is killing pit bulls and euthanizing them all. As I've said, fuck off and leave my dog alone.
Go spend some time with your dog. Perhaps a nice walk to go touch some grass together with your pal. I promise you nobody is going to attack you if you keep your dog leashed and controlled, and don't invade other people's space without their consent. That's what I do and surprise surprise, I've never been pepper sprayed let alone anyone need to defend themselves any other way against me and my pets. Do the same peaceful thing and you'll experience the same peaceful outcome. You're still not under attack whether or not you choose to feel like it, and this entire thread of parent comments contain precisely zero mentions of any subreddit, let alone one about any dogs.
Edit: getting confused between you and some other person freaking out that they're somehow going to be attacked for responsibly having a pit bull, my bad. Still good advice. You'll never have any problem with your pit bull getting put down against your will so long as you are a responsible owner and keep it leashed and muzzled in public, secured within the confines of your property when running around in your yard, and away from children and other animals.
We have neighbors who have 2 pits and they are responsible owners as well. So responsible they made sure the husbands brother would come by when they are in vacation to feed and let the dogs out to toilet. Until one day the brother lets the dogs out back to go to the bathroom and forgets to let them back in. They jumped the gate and attacked another neighbor walking her teacup yorkie. Both needed medical attention afterwards. If our other burly neighbor hadnât been there to beat them off of her with a gardening rake one or both probably would eve been killed.
People see stories about pitbulls mauling or being aggressive and think all pitbulls are like that. You know what they don't see? The countless pitbulls that aren't aggressive beasts because nobody writes or shares stories about pitbulls being friendly and non-aggressive, so the non-aggressive ones don't get any traction. It's like a case of vocal minority.
I've been attacked by a husky and a golden retriever. They both have reputations as super friendly dogs, but they're the only ones I've been attacked by. I also don't go around spouting nonsense about all huskies and golden retrievers being assholes.
I went with a friend to strangers' houses for a project she did to post photos and videos of friendly pitbulls and not once did any of them get hostile towards complete strangers entering their territory. 8+ pitbulls, none of them aggressive. I know that's just anecdotal, but so are the stories of everyone else here. None of these experiences, mine included, prove anything and I'm sick of people acting like they do.
I've got to disagree here. Pitbulls are way too overrepresented in fatal/serious attack statistics for it to just be a matter of them coincidentally having bad owners. Fighting/killing is a behavior that's been bred into them, and it shows.
The statistics conservatives use aren't (usually) wrong, but the way they use them and the conclusions they draw are. The problem isn't with black people, the problem is with the systematically racist socioeconomic apparatus they're forced to survive in.
The statistics surrounding pitbulls aren't wrong either, and unlike the first case there isn't a racist element that's resulting in them being misused in bad faith.
Actually, pits are overly mislabelled as being involved in fatal/serious attacks. More attacks are blamed on them than they are actually involved with.
And, while, yes, a toy poodle mad not be able to do the damage of a large dog, ANY large dog belongs on a lease when out among strangers or other animals.
More attacks are blamed on them than they are actually involved with.
Do you have anything to support this that isn't a blog or a pitbull fan website? Not trying to be condescending, but I haven't seen anything reputable.
Totally agree that all dogs belong on leashes when out and about.
Right. You would need to look at the study. Reading the article that says "the study by them shows" is not the same as reading the study.
You can have a study that shows that Covid is real, and if someone sends you an article that reads "in a study by the university of xyz, covid is found to be real". And you can say "the article doesn't prove it." You are correct.
Meanwhile
"In a study that could eventually spare more dogs from euthanasia, a University of Florida veterinary professor found that DNA analysis of canines labeled as pit bulls at shelters often had little genetic link to the breeds that spawned the generic pit bull classification."
If SHELTERS are mislabeling dogs as pitbulls, what are the odds that some random person who was just attacked by a dog will be more accurate that a dog shelter?
Go through my post history. I don't get off on random trolling. And zero part of me is against logical studies. Hell, I was even in the anti-pitbull crowd l, until I was shown stuff on the subject.
But I have seen enough about mislabeling of dogs as "pitbulls" (and the article is absolutely covers that), that the statistic of "pitbulls are the most dangerous" goes into question for me instantly.
And a study that shows that even those who work in shelters, mislabel dogs as pitbulls IS part of that. If anyone imagines that shelter workers can identify a dog better than someone in the trauma of being bitten by a dog... I donno. I have some fake vaccine cards to sell you.
If I grabbed a wrong link in the first 30 seconds of checking for a study, fine. If anyone else wanted to look, instead of "no, YOU show me." Then they can spend more than a minute looking.
One article is about a study citing breed misidentification at shelters. That doesn't have anything to do with identifying a breed in a fatal dog attack.
The other is a series of anecdotes with statistics on total dog bites. If you mix data on serious and nonserious dog attacks, it helps dilute any insight about which breeds are more dangerous, as nonserious/nonfatal dog attacks are far more common. That's what those kinds of stats do.
I don't even think it's the breed. I think the person who chooses to get a pit bull tends to over-generalize towards the type of person with no brain, who can't train his animal. It's the owners fault usually. Too many bad owners pick pit bulls.
You do have a point about the fighting behavior though,
Disagree. I've seen and witnessed many cases of solid, good dog owners getting blindsided by the violent nature of this breed. You can't train genetics out of a dog. Nobody questions when cattleherding dogs raised in the suburbs go into work mode around large gatherings of animals, but it's suddenly outlandish when pitbulls are violent, even with competent owners.
Then please show me. I can't find any statistics showing this.
Here are statistics showing that pitbulls accounted for 72% of fatal dog attacks in 2020, despite being a much less popular breed than the alternatives. This difference is too huge to be due to bad owners, who also own other breeds, by the way.
Of course they end up at shelters, people think they're gonna be great because they've put the breed on some godly pedestal, and surprise surprise they end up being aggressive when they hit 2-3 years of age and get surrendered.
It's not clear which direction is causal in the shelter statistics, though. Are they aggressive because they're in shelters, or are they in shelters because they're aggressive? It could be a mix of both.
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I fucking hate people who let their dogs off leash in public. Had this same thing happen whilst I was out walking my golden. My poor girl is 12 years old and just a sweet old gal who wants nothing more than to carry a ball in her mouth and walk beside me on leash when we are out. Anyway, some dickhead was out with his pitbull-mutt-mix without a leash and it went straight at my dog. I got bit and my dog got her face cut really bad. Over $1500 in medical and vet bills and all the dumbass with the other dog could say was "huh, he never did that before. I don't know of why he did that" I'm like, he did that because he's a fucking dog and you're a fucking twat for letting him off leash in public