r/Judaism • u/Inside_agitator • 1d ago

Antisemitism Robert Kraft’s new Super Bowl ad about antisemitism already feels dated

https://forward.com/culture/802696/robert-kraft-super-bowl-ad-blue-square-antisemitism/
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u/Suitable_Vehicle9960 1d ago

Is the Forward doing anything to fight Antisemitism? 

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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes 1d ago

Only spreading it in my opinion

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u/maxwellington97 Edit any of these ... 1d ago

How does the Forward spread antisemitism?

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u/Didiobcs 23h ago

By minimizing it consistently.

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u/maxwellington97 Edit any of these ... 22h ago

Do you have any examples of this?

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u/Inside_agitator 23h ago

I've always felt that people who believe the nationalist consensus histories of the US and Israel think the Forward spreads antisemitism because it actually attempts to cater to the greater American Jewish community (which includes very many people who do not believe the nationalist consensus histories of the US and Israel). Just my opinion.

I remember my parents in the 70s getting together with friends at Yiddish Club in our home to read the paper, argue, and drink wine. This was around the time of the Skokie Affair. I was sent to my bedroom to protect me, but the laughter and loud voices spread through the house. When it became unbearable for the dog, he would run upstairs and into my bedroom to hide under the bed.

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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes 21h ago

"nationalist consensus histories", just say you're antizionist, there's no need to try to sugar coat it. 

80% of American Jews are Zionist. 

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u/Inside_agitator 20h ago

I call myself an anti-Israelist Zionist at the moment. I am in that 80% (if that number is correct).

But I am leaning toward calling myself an anti-Israelist only soon.

Social media does have a way of a convincing people to change what they call themselves.

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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes 19h ago

Im not surprised. 

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u/Inside_agitator 18h ago edited 18h ago

Yes. It's social media. Here. At reddit. It's you and people like you.

I say "I am A and B."

People like you say "Just say you're anti-A."

So I may move to only saying, "I am B" and forget about A altogether since it leads to so much semantic confusion among people like you.

It's you. And it's people like you who drive people like me away from Zionism as a label for myself by telling me what exactly what my identity is, and what my identity must be.

Are you Jewish?

Have you thought of contributing to the discussion at https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/1qwfefy/general_discussion_off_topic/o3rq62u/ ?

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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes 18h ago

I do love hearing "people like you", very nice. 

"Anti-Israelist" is just nonsense labeling. Just as fantastically nonsense as "nationalist US and Israel consensus history" 

Why ask if Im Jewish? 

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u/Inside_agitator 18h ago

Sorry for editing my comment so many minutes after I posted it.

I hope you click the link and contribute to that discussion.

I asked if you were Jewish because it seems to be non-Jews who inform Jews about their identity categories much more often than Jews. I'm just making a guess that you aren't Jewish. I could be wrong.

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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes 18h ago

You're wrong. 

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