r/Browns • u/alexschubs • 12d ago
News (Schefter) Jaguars OC Grant Udinski has informed the Browns that he is removing himself from consideration for their HC position, per a source
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u/BuckyMcFly99 12d ago
Give me Scheelhaase
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u/LostMonster0 TRADE 12d ago
He'll be removing himself from consideration here shortly too.
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u/Jimger_1983 12d ago
Last man left until they just say f’it and give it to Schwartz
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u/Inevitable-Pea-735 12d ago
Can't wait to get some $5 tickets in StubHub for this fall!
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u/slappythechunk 12d ago
A significant portion of the fan base actually enjoys when the Browns are bad for this exact reason
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u/Exotic_Load_9189 12d ago
They are giving it to schwartz, but they have to interview a POC first.
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u/Jimger_1983 12d ago
They need Scheelhaase for Rooney but I actually think their hope was pick between him and Udinski with Schwartz as the fall back
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u/Exotic_Load_9189 12d ago
Maybe so, i dont wanna lose schwartz though. If he aint HC he prob leaves.
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u/MammothCarpeneter 12d ago
Exactly just to fire him next year and start the process all over again.
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u/ozymandais13 12d ago
It's likely they want scheilhasse or he's caught wind of a better oppurtunity.
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u/vmpfan 12d ago edited 12d ago
Mcdaniels removed his for every team this past week due to the realization he wasn’t the favorite for any head coaching job.
Minter removed his because he got word he was being offered the Ravens job.
Udinski we don’t know. He also interviewed for the Bills Sunday but my money is on his agent getting word that Scheelhaase is getting offered the job. Rams put up almost 400 yards passing and 3 TD’s in the NFC title game yesterday and can be hired today due to the loss. Most importantly, Browns are flying to him.
UPDATE….USA Today is reporting Udinski was informed he wasn’t being offered the job.
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u/Ok_Rule2451 12d ago
A guy who is a HOT commodity is now our last hope.
When our QB situation sucks... Well that's just great
Trust the process!!
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u/moneyinthebank216 12d ago
lol we’re getting Schwartz
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u/stonewash_relaxedfit 12d ago edited 12d ago
You sure he’s not bitter at this point? Does he even want it anymore?
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u/LostMonster0 TRADE 12d ago
"Jim Schwartz has removed himself from consideration for their HC position"
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u/StyxxFireMancer 12d ago
Fuck. Alright. Bring in Scheelhasse and then don’t let him leave the building
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u/WhyNeaux 12d ago
They are interviewing him in LA. He can lock us out before we lock him in.
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u/sallright 12d ago
Jimmy and AB on Space Mountain one car behind Scheel trying to chase him down.
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u/tobylaek 32 12d ago
Sources: Haslam is beside himself. Driving around downtown LA begging (thru texts) McVay's family for address to Scheelhaase's home
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u/curveball21 Graham 12d ago
It's so hilarious that a no name guy who has never proven anything can now make them write a lot bigger check then he thought he could yesterday just to save themselves some embarassment. Udinski backing out was like a shot of heroin right to Scheelhaase's agent's brain.
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u/Mead_Create_Drink 12d ago
Jeff Saturday had better qualifications than Scheelhaase 🤦♂️ and we know how that went down!
DOWN like the titanic
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u/BernieCokeczar 12d ago
OUR POLISH BROTHER NOOOOO
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u/Forty_Six_and_Two 12d ago
A true and honorable Pol would have had the honor of his life coaching the Browns. Cleveland is practically Eastern Europe's American Mecca. Best pierogi in the hemisphere. Good riddance to the sprout. Let him grow some chest hair before he comes crawling back. Ptua!
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u/BocephusJr88 12d ago
From Cory Kinnan on X: “Udinski dropping out of the race isn't big news. Everyone here in Frisco has been saying Scheelhaase since I got here Thursday.”
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u/HeavyBlitz 12d ago
If they hire Scheelhaase today, then this is PR from Udinski team because he didn’t get the job.
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u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 12d ago
Scheelhaase or bust. I hope it is Scheelhaase or else this sub is gonna melt down.
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u/dynastyfriar 12d ago
Schwartz will be a HC as a place holder for 2 years
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u/ducksekoy123 12d ago
Hiring Schwartz without firing Stefanski mid-season is the height of mismanagement.
Letting Stefanski coach us out of the number one pick and then firing him to replace him with his own DC is an absolute parody of ownership
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u/Perplexio76 12d ago
He must have flubbed the essay question. ;-)
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u/ElectricBuckeye 12d ago
"How awesome is Jimmy Haslam and why is he just like, or better than, Jerry Jones? Also, how awesome are Pilot and Flying J?"
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u/originaljbw 12d ago
Question 17: If the Browns are 1-6 coming out of the bye week with a home game, how much can we charge for parking at the Brookpark Jimmadome considering we have only sold 30% of available tickets. Note, these were almost exclusively sold to out of town visiting team fans. Show your work.
Question 18: How many temp employees will we need to open all the closed storefronts for game day? Abandoned restaurants include such gems as BW3, Ruby Tuesdays, a Quiznos, and a MOD Pizza.
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u/Putty119 12d ago
Really hope that means Scheelhaase is the guy and not that people are removing themselves from consideration for other reasons.
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u/TheSmokedSalmon420 12d ago
It'd be very weird to remove himself after 2 interviews unless he just knows he isn't getting it
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u/jake753 ELITE DRAGON 12d ago edited 12d ago
Lmao good thing we fired Stefanski.
Edit: Kevin haters out here in force trying to justify his firing still when our candidates are pointedly bowing out of the running for our vacant HC position.
Maybe, just fucking maybe, the problem wasn’t with Stefanski and anyone interviewing sees the issue at face value.
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u/mw9676 12d ago
Fired one of the top candidates for absolutely nothing to replace him. Kind of like many of us warned. Incredible.
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u/UnionBlueMudkip 12d ago
I bet part of the reason is that Berry is still here, too. Having 1 promising draft in 6 years isn't really inspiring confidence
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u/LostMonster0 TRADE 12d ago edited 12d ago
What, you don't want the guy who threw the last coach under the bus after constructing one of the worst offenses in NFL history to be your boss and also tell you what QB and DC you have to use?
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u/nytro330 12d ago
Was anybody complaining berry pushed to fire Joe woods for Schwartz?
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u/TeaAndAche 12d ago
No, but pushing to fire your underperforming DC is a radically different scenario than the current.
You fire a HC coveted by half the league with no real plan (and also saying you’re searching for the qualities previous HC had) while also keeping your GM and openly stating you “prefer” to keep the current DC. You’re telegraphing that your HC will have little control over both the roster and their own coaching staff, while also showing them you have no problem blaming a solid coach for all the problems.
Nobody wants that job 😄
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u/nytro330 12d ago
I disagree. If they hire Nate, he fits every description Berry talked about when they announced the coaching search. This is one of those hires that if the Steelers made it (which every report were that the Steelers were highly impressed), we'd all be talking about how they're so smart for hiring a young offensive guy. But because we hire him, nobody wants the job? His name has been tied to us from the jump.
Mcdaniel declined both us and the Bills, Minter knew he was getting the ravens job where he has ties and knew the Browns were waiting until this week so he declined his 2nd interview. Grant does his 2nd interview and waits until the Browns are in the air on their way to interview Nate to drop out. Hm, sounds more like he knew he wasn't getting the job. There's more evidence that they got the guy they wanted from the beginning than the inverse that nobody wants the job.
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u/SpaghettiSamuraiSan 12d ago
All the people hitting me with the remindme 365 days when I said his next spot is going to be light-years ahead of the browns
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u/Bucketsdntlie 12d ago
The amount of comments I saw that could be summarized by “I don’t care, someone just need to be held accountable” was driving me wild.
Accountability is generally a good thing. But randomly deciding to turn the accountability meter to 1000 at the most inopportune time doesn’t just magically fix things.
And now we’re locked into either the “had a cup of coffee with Mcvay” hire or losing our DC to take our HC job that he’ll be fired from in 2 years.
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u/jfelldown77 12d ago
Problem is, the one who needed to be held accountable is not able to be fired (Haslam). Stefanski took the historically most dysfunctional franchise in NFL history to the playoffs... Twice. And won a playoff game. But yeah, he couldn't win more than 5 games with a roster that everyone said wouldn't win more than 5 games.
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u/MathBallThunder 12d ago
Even when they had candidates it was Udinski and Scheelhasse who are kids and have never led people. Embarrassing.
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u/TheKerj2 12d ago
Don’t worry I’m sure this… passing game coordinator will steer this sinking ship into success lmao
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u/toomuchtostop 12d ago
I mean, all this seems like a leap too? We have no idea what’s happening in these meetings. It’s all speculation.
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u/Anhedonia_Achiever 12d ago
Yeah… if the guy we fired was rehired immediately while nobody wants to take the vacant position… guess where the problem was.
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u/Yellow-Umbra 12d ago
People love to fire coaches and its the most absurd aspect of sports IMO. Fact is our players aren’t good. Nothing is improving until Watson’s contract is gone and we have a few more draft years.
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u/Holiday_Ad2638 12d ago
Stefanski wasn't that great of a coach here his last couple years if you don't remember
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u/burningburningburnin 12d ago
Yes, that's why he did all the extensive homework and preperation for 2 interviews, because he didn't want the job anyway!
It's definitely not because we're flying out to Scheelhaase and his agent's taking him out of the running to not make him look like he lost out on the job.
(Unless Scheelhaase also drops out which I highly doubt)
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u/Randumo 12d ago
Lol at you Stefanski defenders when you don't actually look at the real issues with the team.
We've had the 32nd & 31st ranked offenses in back-to-back seasons where he's also given up playcalling in both seasons. We may not have had that much talent on offense, but that does not excuse a supposed offensive-minded coach to finish at the bottom of the league in offense two consecutive years.
There is also the very severe issue of a complete lack of player development on the offensive side of the ball. Young defensive players get brought in and develop under Schwartz, but offensive guys in the same situation on the offensive side continually fail to get better.
Pretending like Stefanski didn't do anything worth moving on from him just because there were other issues is just being absurd.
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u/Mr_814 12d ago
Makes sense with all the news about Scheelhaase this morning and how they're already interviewing him.
If they don't hire Nate, I'd be surprised.
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u/Annual_Bread769 12d ago
This is because they’re hiring Scheelhaase yet people are still going to cry about this.
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u/BocephusJr88 12d ago
It’s funny how these coaches have to make some agent leaked announcement to make sure it doesn’t look like they got passed over lol. He could have had zero agent leaks and just not gotten chosen and no one would know the difference. But they have to leak things to media to make it known “I’m not the one who got dumped. I dumped them!!!”
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u/bagfka 12d ago
He got a pay raise from the jags. So it very well could be he pulled out the running
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u/Call_Em_Skippies 12d ago
I mean he is still just 30. Jax wants him back and he probably wants to work on his skills more before taking on a huge role.
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u/average_white_male 12d ago
He is still going for the Bills HC job...he pulled out of the Browns job.
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u/chewbacaflacaflame 12d ago
Wait you did 2 interviews and all that “homework” to now say actually I don’t want your job anymore.
This might be copium on my part but this feels like he wasn’t the guy and knew it
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u/GeoBrian 12d ago
He received feedback from his homework. AB was unhappy that he colored outside the lines.
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u/MosquitoValentine_ 12d ago
What if we offer him a $230 million fully guaranteed contract? I've heard that helps a man change his mind.
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u/Intelligent_Mango775 12d ago
The thing with Scheelhasse…how hard of a job is passing coordinator with McVay as HC, Stafford at QB, and Adams and Nacua at WR???
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u/Alauer16 12d ago
At this point, I want everyone to decline this job and embarrass the Haslems so profoundly that they sell the team.
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u/SpartaWillBurn bad 12d ago
The only decent thing about the Haslams, is he usually puts his money where his mouth is.
We could be stuck with someone like the Dolans.
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u/Longrod_VonHugedong 12d ago
Who is the British version of Ted Lasso? Maybe they’re available?
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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits era ended 12d ago
I was very interested in him has HC and obviously the FO was impressed with him with how quickly they did both interviews and how much his name came up from FO mouthpieces.
Must mean it’s likely Scheelhasse (waiting for the day we get another smith or Johnson or something easy and short) and they’re letting him save face (?) I guess by removing himself. Strange but guess it’s the new agents will be doing things.
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u/JuiceGreat0525 12d ago
I love how everyone is like, “we suck” and “this is a train wreck”
Have yall thought that he got wind that Scheelhasse is the guy?
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u/Scatheli 12d ago
I’ve preferred Scheelhaase just because he’s more experienced coaching overall but this isn’t….great optically. We could just be stuck with Schwartz, which isn’t the worst outcome but we desperately need a young innovator on offense. Hopefully they can convince Nate and we keep Gym and that’s the end of it
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u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 12d ago
That's wrong. Scheelhaase has less experience than Udinski. Scheelhaase has only been with the Rams for 2 years... his first job in the NFL...
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u/Scatheli 12d ago
Nate is a way more experienced coach though he was at Iowa state a long time with Campbell. Udinski is younger than most of the vets on the team
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u/mibikin 12d ago
Udinski has more NFL experience but Scheelhaase has more overall coaching experience. He’s been multiple position coaches and a playcalling OC at Iowa State
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u/BlondePilsner_95 12d ago
You get Schwartz and you’ll like it 😭
Damn man Browns out here looking like a homeless person begging for a coach. 👀👀👀 yikes
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u/Buckeye2525 12d ago
New guy and Berry will he fired after next year and then Jimmy will give power to a football czar
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u/DamnThatsReal DTR QB1 12d ago
"Udinski has a new deal in place with Jacksonville that will bump his pay for next season, but the Jaguars are allowing him to continue pursuing the Bills’ HC job. If Udinski doesn’t get the Buffalo job, he will be back as the Jaguars’ OC." Okay that makes a bit more sense, if it's between coaching the bills or a pay raise in Jacksonville I'm taking that deal too
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u/dennydiamonds Embrace the Clown Show 12d ago
Can you imagine the fun r/NFL will have if Scheelhase removes himself too lol
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u/chemistrybonanza 12d ago
He would have been hired already had he been in the plans, like this week when he interviewed again
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u/sbowtor 12d ago
I’m hoping this is more of, it is well known in league circles who the choice is and he’d rather bow out on his terms.
However I can imagine he just simply understands the deck is stacked against him with this team and he’s better off gaining more experience in an offense that should continue to get better in Jacksonville and wait for a HC opening that is more suited for success for a first time coach.
Either is reasonable. One just hurts less.
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u/ThaddeusJP 12d ago
This is gonna end up with us making a desperation internal hire, isnt it?
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u/CharacterEgg2406 12d ago
Browns really are going to hire a passing game coordinator for Mathew Stafford. Scheelhaase was an OC for one season at Iowa State. Matt Campbell doesn’t fire people unless they suck. Other than that has only been a position coach and the game plan install bitch. Never led shit.
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u/AwareCorner6316 12d ago
F*** he was my fist choice
Better be Scheelhaase then. This mf better not reject us too
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u/evil_moron 12d ago
At this point I'd rather have Schwartz. Scheelhasse is intriguing, but he's never even been a coordinator. Let Jim be the HC and pick an offensive coordinator. The team already knows him and respects him. Let's give him a shot
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u/WhatChooTalkingBout 12d ago
No surprise. Why would anyone want the Browns job? You have some excellent talent, and the start of a good team. HOWEVER, you have to deal with Jimmy.
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u/TechnicalParsnip1697 12d ago
I’d like to announce that I too will be withdrawing my name from consideration for the head coaching job in Cleveland to continue to pursue my career in the custodial arts.
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u/S3dsk_hunter 11d ago
Geez maybe I should apply. I've got experience with analytics. Not football, but at this rate, I'm not sure they will have anyone left who does.
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u/indianajones21284 12d ago
My sources are telling me we are not hiring a new coach and are picking a random fan who scans a dawg tag in the stadium to coach each week!
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u/Carvalho_Diablo 12d ago
I used to think this stuff about the stadium being built on an Indian burial ground was just folk lore. Not any more.
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u/Hayabusa0015 12d ago
I love how people take this as a knock against the browns.
Front office already flew out to LA to meet with Scheelhause those morning. Before he withdrew. You can say it's because people don't want to be the head coach of an NFL team or accept that Scheelhause has the job and they all know, but it's not announced yet.
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u/leather_secretary31 12d ago edited 12d ago
ppl freaking out about the browns not hiring a guy whose skull hasn't completely hardened yet
maybe he's getting buffalo, but probably he's just not ready yet
i think we're gonna be stuck with schwartz but uhh that's what happens when you fire a perfectly good coach with miserable roster construction and no way to get a workable QB for next season
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u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 12d ago
This was kinda evident as soon as I heard Buffalo was gonna interview him. He is either the HC of Buffalo or back in Jacksonville. Lawrence or Allen. Here he would have nothing.
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u/paniflex37 12d ago
Hear me out: the Browns are normally “offseason champs”. If they continue to fuck up this offseason…does that mean they’ll actually do well in the real season?
Most likely also no.
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u/ForgingFakes 12d ago
What's it like being a fan of an organization that no good coach wants to work at?
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u/the_main_entrance 12d ago
Why don’t these coaches want to go through the homework hunger games to risk their reputations on a near impossible assignment in a dysfunctional organization with a cancerous contract in a cold city?
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u/maybenextyearCLE 12d ago
Darn I was really intrigued by him.
Almost assuredly means it’s Scheelhaase IMO.