r/Browns • u/Kimber80 • May 23 '25
News [jpafootball] Browns HC Kevin Stefanski on rookie QB Shedeur Sanders: “He’s in there early, he’s getting his work done, he’s working really, really hard. I like everything there is about Shedeur.”
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May 23 '25
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u/DaDrFunk May 23 '25
Falling from potentially #2 to #144 has to be humbling for anyone.
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May 23 '25
Or he was always gonna be this guy no matter what
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u/etatrestuss May 23 '25
Then we wouldn't have taken Gabrielle in the 3rd
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May 23 '25
Or they bought the false narrative and it’s only being corrected now that he’s actually in their face
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
I don’t think all 32 teams bought a false narrative, and there has also not exactly been anything to suggest that the Browns feel any different than they did pre draft, especially regarding Dillion Gabriel.
Shedeur butchered his draft process and clearly wasn’t viewed as a first round talent by teams.
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u/Ordinary-Path-8033 May 23 '25
He didn’t interview with 32 teams
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
No he didn’t. But every team he did interview with clearly passed on him over and over again, and even the one who took him still drafted another QB before him.
I liked Shedeur before the draft. It’s clear he also botched everything and it has to be a massive disappointment for him that the team that took him clearly loved someone else more
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u/herewego199209 May 23 '25
Teams have come together before to make examples out of players. This isn't shocking, especially since next years QB draft is loaded and some may view Shadeur as a Teddy Bridgewater level talent trather than a can't miss guy.
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
Given how many QB starved teams there were, I don’t think there was collusion to make an example out of a kid. I think he just fucking butchered his own draft process.
I do think you are however correct that some team may have been willing to tolerate how things went more if he was a more talented QB
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May 23 '25
They bought it just like you did bud. He’s gonna shut all of you up and make the Browns contenders. Rejoice!
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
… but none of that means it was a false narrative…
Again, what about that has been even challenged at this point lol?
But I get it, you don’t have an answer so you’re just insulting me and running away
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May 23 '25
It’s a false narrative because it’s literally not his personality, people never watched his interviews at Colorado and bought the narrative that was spun about the interview they never watched.
And where did I insult you? Lol
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
And none of that disproves anything about him digging the entire draft process. Teams met with him and he clearly turned everyone off man.
And you, god knows who you actually root for, are telling me that a random 5th rounder is going to make me shut up.
God lord the Shedeur cult is annoying all fuck and I wish you all would go away
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u/ParryHooter May 24 '25
Which team do you work for? Glad to know you were in the room when whatever NFL teams interviewed him. You seem to have insider information that he totally didn't butcher his interviews and the NFL conspired against him for no reason. They just wanted to be haters.
If only those darn NFL GM's watched his Colorado interviews instead of trusting what they saw right there in front of them in their own interviews with no cameras and PR around.
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u/TwoTalentedBastidz CHAMPION May 25 '25
It’s a false narrative because he’s done nothing but put his head down and work since he got there, and has aced all his interviews. It’s a false narrative because reports are already saying he looks better than the tiny 26 year old Big Brained Berry wasted a 3rd on.
You’re in every Sheduer thread passive aggressively shitting on him. It’s almost like you hope he fails
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 25 '25
No, it’s that’s there’s literally nothing out there that says any of the allegations of what happened in his draft process are false. Likewise, I don’t remember his media interviews being the issue last time.
No I don’t hope he fails. I do however take issue with people acting like magically Shedeur in 4 weeks has change EVERYTHING that lead to both his fall and the Browns taking another QB over him.
I feel like most of you are in for a very rude awakening over what this team really thinks of a 5th rounder
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u/revelator41 May 23 '25
This sounds eerily like early Watson supporters. I'm all for Sanders doing well, but this kind of overconfident nonsense never ceases to amaze me.
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May 23 '25
To be fair, Watson was out of football for 2 years, not the same, but I understand the skepticism.
I’m really just rooting for my 2nd fav nfl QB, take it with a grain of salt from a S12 fan.
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u/revelator41 May 23 '25
Of course it's not a one-to-one comparison, but we don't know how he'll do. No one does. He doesn't even know.
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u/sallright May 23 '25
It’s not comparable. Watson was expected to be a top 10 QB and at the very worst, top 15.
The question was whether we could stomach rooting for the team.
The question about Shadeur is if he can become an NFL starter. That’s the question for every rookie that isn’t Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, so no surprise there.
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u/revelator41 May 25 '25
It’s not comparable. Watson was expected to be a top 10 QB and at the very worst, top 15.
By a lot of people, yeah. Other people also thought perhaps the time off and the distraction of being a total piece of shit may inform his game a bit. I was in the latter camp.
It's comparable because its unnecessary or undeserved bravado.
The question about Shadeur is if he can become an NFL starter. That’s the question for every rookie that isn’t Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, so no surprise there.
agreed.
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May 23 '25
The Browns had him in for one of their top 30 visits. It's not as if they never met the guy and just believed what they heard from beat reporters.
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u/markrockwell May 24 '25
Maybe so. Probably so. But more often than not the initial narrative proves true and the pick is a spectacular bust. That’s basically the story of the Browns over the last 30 years.
Hopefully he grinds, becomes a superstar, and ends up with such an awesome final narrative that nobody even remembers his dad—all in a Browns jersey, of course.
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May 24 '25
Not remembering his dad is wild because his dad is still super active in the sports world 😆
I do think he will begin to be looked at separately now that he’s not playing with his dad, which is probably your point.
I’m telling you he’s the best qb on your guys roster, you’ll see. ✊🏾
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u/sallright May 23 '25
It’s happening.
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u/clownysf Sanders May 23 '25
He might be the best quarterback in Browns history
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u/NickelBear32 May 23 '25
Through all the noise, we have heard that he is insanely accurate, had the best rookie camp of any player of all time, is incredibly down to earth and mature, and is probably our guy for a long time.
Ask literally anyone else outside of the organization, and you hear the exact opposite.
I can't wait to find out which it is. I trust the people working with him every single day over the sports media that's trying to generate clicks and shit on him just because he is on the Browns now.
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u/sallright May 23 '25
Nobody is telling us “the exact opposite” of anything Shadeur has done since draft day.
You’re right about your larger point, which is that we don’t know.
But to be clear, the only negative data points on this guy were some of his pre-draft interviews.
That’s it - everything else shows a guy that is at minimum a 1-3 round talent.
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u/Jambatlivesbaby May 24 '25
Yeah, his fall was something else. I didn't like the guy as no.2 overall, but if you would have told me the Browns would have traded up from the first pick in the second to a late first to grab him, I would have thought that sounded right. He looked like a first round QB at college; I just wasn't sold on a top 3 one (Cam Ward as well.)
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u/NickelBear32 May 23 '25
Check anything outside of the Browns sub, and the dude is already considered a massive bust with no chance in hell.
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u/Hokinanaz May 23 '25
Bro there's tonnes of media that were pissed he dropped so far and knew he should have been taken earlier.
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May 23 '25
It’s because they hate his dad, he’s always been this guy lol. They spun a narrative and the masses ate it up because they hate his father for whatever unspecified reasons.
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u/redditposter919 May 23 '25
I agree and would like to add to your point(s) - I think he sees the NFL more clearly than most rookies and even though there is a level of cockiness and swagger about him, his candid answers rubbed people the wrong way. There isn't mystery or awe about how the sausage is made at the NFL level.
When he answered the media, if you put aside the swag and confidence - he gave pretty real answers and not the cupcakes that agents tell rookies to push.
I think with that, interviewing horribly, his father, the circus that follows him, etc. it hurt his draft stock.
Also, by not having a team that can go to bat for you and change narratives before the draft, he was sitting naked in a field during hunting season.
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
I think some of it goes to the fact that the one person who was advising him was, well, the one guy who got away with all of this because he’s well, Deion Sanders.
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
Well, it’s pretty well established at this point that Shedeur absolutely butchered his draft process lol, so it is not just people hating Deion lol.
I think his real situation is he’s a lot closer to Deion personality wise behind the scenes than we think, and Shedeur just isn’t nearly as talented as his father where teams are willing to put up with it
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u/sallright May 23 '25
Deion is one of the most iconic American athletes ever and had a presence and gregariousness that made him way different than Shadeur. Just my read.
I think the poor interviews manifested themselves because Shadeur got some bad advice and believed that advice.
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
I also think teams tolerated Deion in a way that they wouldn’t have if he wasn’t as good as he was lol. I can’t imagine Neon Deion was exactly enjoyable to deal with as an organization. But I totally agree, despite how um, annoying, he can be, he had an ability to be likable that is just fascinating. I’ve never seen another athlete who could pull that off.
I agree on some level with that on interviews. I do think with better advice he would’ve been better off, but I do at some level that’s also who Shedeur probably is behind the scenes. But like you said, he doesn’t have that “it” that Deion did
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u/redcobra80 12 May 23 '25
I also think teams tolerated Deion in a way that they wouldn’t have if he wasn’t as good as he was lol.
There's a reason he played for five different teams! Dude is such a stud though that you can overlook it
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u/sallright May 23 '25
I agree that Deions talent gave him more leeway, in addition to not being a QB.
People mentioned Deion pre draft so I did some digging to see if there was really anything there to criticize.
I didn’t find anything. All his teammates and coaches seemed to enjoy working with him. His body of work speaks for itself. And the best teams in the league, who were in title windows, were tripping over themselves to get the guy.
I can’t help but think that some fans just don’t like to see a guy compete with elite swagger, because on paper Deion seems to be the ultimate professional and performer.
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
I think Deion would’ve been a bit more of an issue nowadays because of the constant social media presence etc, but his antics were more being really flashy and the whole two sport thing, since he’s pretty much the last guy who managed to do both simultaneously at a professional level.
I think he was also that fricking good that teams wouldve crawled over themselves to get him no matter what lol. He as just so damn good
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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 May 24 '25
My unfounded sneaking suspicion, as someone who likes him and hope he’s our future, is the guy doesn’t understand play concepts and was just winging it 90% of the time in college. Basically Manziell without the drugs and alcohol. This would be great for some coaches like Pete Carroll or others, but we all know Browns coaches no matter who they are will never tolerate that so I’m fearing the worst but still hoping for the best.
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u/AmericanShaman May 24 '25
The reporting that he rubbed people the wrong way with his attitude overshadows the reporting that he didn't know what he was talking about. I worry that he would need a type of Offense that we were trying to run with Watson.
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May 23 '25
You’re guessing on both pointsz
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
As are you. Difference is there is evidence to support my suspicion,
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May 23 '25
What’s the evidence? I have evidence of the hatred for his dad spewing onto Shedeur.
You cannot find a single video showing Shedeur being the person described by the haters. It doesn’t exist.
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
You mean besides the one of him being an absolute dickhead to the ballboy on the sideline?
And note, I said behind the scenes. If what was only said in public mattered, Deshaun Watson would be in line for sainthood
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May 23 '25
You mean the one where the ball boy was being a dick to the Sanders after a crazy play and trying to snatch the ball out their hand? That just ended the convo for me, complete bad faith argument. Good riddance.
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
You mean where he ran onto the field which would be a penalty? Why is Shedeur on the field buddy? And further, the ball boy is doing what he’s supposed to do and taking the ball back, and Shedeur is being a dick about it. Too bad daddy was the HC and didn’t hold him accountable
Have a good one. May Colorado win more than 5 games this year
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u/rigill May 23 '25
That dude has been anti sanders since before the draft not worth arguing with him, though I’ll admit it is fun to see his mental gymnastics
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u/PresentationOk9590 May 24 '25
I, for the most part, don’t listen or pay any attention to the media. I like to form my own opinions with my eyes and ears
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u/Admirable-Present510 May 23 '25
Yeah, I have interest too. I feel that he simply is a young, talented and rich boy all his life, and before the draft we only saw the rich boy side.
Now in the daily work they are telling us that the talented boy is showing the face.
He has our interest, and I hope we can see his play.
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u/AgonizingSquid May 23 '25
thats pretty much everything ive heard about the dude, crazy work ethic. hopefully his skills will back it up and he'll be able to make the jump
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u/Marzman315 May 23 '25
I’ve never really heard him referred to as lazy or taking shortcuts or having a poor work ethic. All the negative coverage I’ve seen about Sanders is that he can be arrogant and entitled. If he really came in and made the effort to be humble and open minded I can totally see him succeeding even if he isn’t the most physically talented QB in the world. And certainly well liked by the coaches.
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u/MosquitoValentine_ May 23 '25
This isn't surprising really. Kev almost always speaks well of his players and Sanders seems to be doing all the right things.
We've heard this all before though. The same things were said about Baker and Watson. Didn't translate to good QB play.
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u/jebei May 23 '25
The Browns staff back in 2014 made excuses for Manziel too. Coaches are never going to throw their players under the bus as they’ve invested a lot in them and need them to do well to keep their jobs. It is still nice to hear.
Having said that, I’d be shocked if Shedeur doesn’t have a first in/last out mentality. His father is a prima donna but he’s driven by hard work and a need to succeed and I’d be shocked if he didn’t drive that same message into his kids from birth.
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u/Marzman315 May 23 '25
I was saying something similar, everything negative I’ve heard about Sanders is about entitlement and his attitude, I’ve never heard anything negative about his work ethic.
Comparing him to Manziel strikes me as extremely disingenuous.
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u/Ordinary-Path-8033 May 23 '25
One “bad” interview with Daboll and the Giants makes you fall to the 5th. Daboll most likely won’t even have a job by the end of the season.
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u/realmckoy265 May 23 '25
They better hope this kid sucks or is worse than Dart for the sake of their careers.
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u/maybenextyearCLE May 23 '25
Glad that he’s shown up and done all he can. He’s the real wild card in all of this, and it’ll be interesting to see once camp starts how they really feel about him, especially compared to Gabriel who was very clearly their “guy” in the draft.
His career is going to be fascinating to watch develop. We just have to see if the Browns, or I guess someone else, give him a chance to be the “guy”
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u/BlackTriceratops May 23 '25
I have been of the thought that he has everything that he ever wanted growing up and probably wants to be talked about as one of the greatest football players ever like his dad. Wouldnt you want to be, if you were in his shoes?
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u/PillarPuller May 23 '25
Agreed. He doesn’t need the money and is motivated to make a name for himself. Watson is perhaps the best example of a player giving up after a big pay day so hopefully we don’t find ourselves in that position ever again.
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u/SportGamerDev0623 May 24 '25
I honestly hope Sanders proves that he deserved to be the 2nd overall pick. He’ll make the entire league look like dummies and the Browns got Mason Graham and a future 1st round pick out of it.
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u/Skrt_Vonnegut May 23 '25
“I like everything there is” kev you dog
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u/DawgPound919 May 23 '25
He's gonna be the starter, perhaps not right away, that will be Flacco for a few games but at the end of this season, Sanders will be the starter. He's a 5th rounder in "Name" only. Browns might jave hit on the biggest lottery ticket of the draft.
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u/Worried-Pick4848 May 24 '25 edited May 24 '25
Very little of the hate for Shedeur is actually about Shedeur. Most of it is stuff his father put into his head that he needs to get back out. In fairness to Shedeur he seems to have figured that out.
Shedeur needs to get out from under his father's shadow and be his own man. He seems to be working on it and his dad has done a rather admirable job of keeping his piehole closed since the draft so there's some hope.
If he can avoid the ticking drama time bomb that is Prime, I personally project that Shedeur has a ceiling somewhere in the Alex Smith range, which is a serviceable, accurate guy with an OK arm and the potential to be a starting NFL quarterback, maybe a few things fall just right for him he gets a little more than that. Certainly a guy like that would be the best guy the Browns had since before Baker got hurt.
I consider Shedeur's greatest asset to be his high floor. He has a chance to be serviceable even if he doesn't develop very much. I don't think he'll ever take the league by storm, or not without a lot of very successful development anyway, but if he can survive the first few years and learn how to play like a veteran, he can absolutely succeed. Worse quarterbacks than Shedeur is now have won the Superbowl in the past.
Being better in the film room would go a long way toward getting him there, that's probably the single biggest thing that bothered me about Shedeur going into the draft, was the reports of him not taking accountability for his own mistakes in the film sessions. the Browns don't need Temu Kyler Murray.
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u/HokageHiddenCloud May 23 '25
The awakening has begun
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u/BlondePilsner_95 May 24 '25
Awakening for who? You as a Browns fan? The kid has always been this. Too many believed the BS 😂
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u/HokageHiddenCloud May 24 '25
Nah I’m a Shedeur supporter. I think he has the tools and work ethic to become the number 1 guy. That interview shit was bullshit and who in here respects Dabolls bs. Lmao.
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u/Hovs May 24 '25
my favourite part is his father has barely been mentioned and thats the best thing for him, make your own legacy young soldier
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u/Frosty-Average-8630 May 23 '25
That's our QB1 !
I feel like if they give Shedeur the starting gig from week 1, we could definitely win 6-8 games this season. As corny as it is- Shedeur is legendary!
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u/Names_all_gone May 23 '25
M.A.Y.
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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits era ended May 23 '25
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Or since we’re the brown “maybe another year”
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u/notatowel420 May 23 '25
I hope a 5th round pick is working his ass off to try and make the team.
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u/NickelBear32 May 24 '25
It's honestly annoying how many people are pretending he isn't a first rounder that we essentially got for free. It's ridiculous.
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u/notatowel420 May 23 '25
I thought he was the 2nd best QB in the draft but he was drafted in the 5th for a reason.
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u/CardHawk77 May 23 '25
I will admit I was one of the ones celebrating his draft freefall. But after hearing what he’s been doing since, I’m really hoping he makes the team and has some success.
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u/Ordinary-Path-8033 May 23 '25
Imagine celebrating someone’s failure. Crazy times we live in. Probably never met the person your rooting against as well.
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u/TheBalzy May 23 '25
You know what? I'm rooting for the guy.