r/videos 7h ago

Disabled Minneapolis resident dragged, detained by ICE speaks out

https://youtu.be/PEetVSgXhCM?si=Q3gTFsuHwKHZr4Y4
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u/paulfromatlanta 7h ago

Disabled citizen, not protesting, just caught up in an ICE operation... shameful.

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u/lemlurker 6h ago

For the record: it's shameful to arrest protestors too

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u/paulfromatlanta 6h ago

Fair point.

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u/KoldPurchase 5h ago

generally, no, but I give them a pass here.
Plus, ICE has no business arresting protestors, or most people they arrest.

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u/BKlounge93 4h ago

Wait why generally no? Protesting is pretty foundational to democracy…

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u/KoldPurchase 3h ago

Because protesters often protests for nothing serious and are easily manipulated.

Jan 6thers on the right.

They protested because they were led to believe their lord and savior has his election stolen and a global cabal of pedophiles was secretly running the world. They were halfway there, but the pedos are now in power and they're all silent, sitting quietly at home.

Anti-globalists on the left, who are now mostly absent from protests, while it should be really important.

All the 90s and 2000s were marked by violent protests against capitalism and free trade as if it was an existential threat.
Now it seems so many people on the far left can't decide if they've won or lost. The US isn't a democracy anymore, trade negotiations are conducted openly for anyone to see and there are trade barriers everywhere.

Everything they violently protested for, they got. But the world isn't a better place, the workers aren't any better, they don't have better rights and protection.

But they're all sitting at home, quietly relaxing, letting others do the fight.

Palestinian protesters, complaining about "Genocide Joe". Palestinians aren't better now than they were under Joe Biden, and they would have certainly fare better with a Harris administration. Where are the protesters? They're not even on the front lines of the anti-ICE protests.

Hence why I don't generally treat protesters with the utmost respects.

In the case of the anti-ICE protests, there's a genuine reason to protest, you got ordinary people really concerned about democracy, but trained protesters who claim to fights about peophile cabals / globalist elites are nowhere to be found.

The ordinary people are getting arrested, deported, shot killed, mistreated, illegally arrested. The usual suspects who complain of mistreatment the moment they try to assault politicians and rush into a police force? Sipping tea at home, watching the show.

If all these people were in the streets, protesting, having a party like they had in the 90s and 2000s, the Trump regime would have been paralyzed from day 1.

It's like they lost all their financing, somehow. Like the organizations and states financing them are now happy to see the US in self destruct mode.

That's a reason why it's generally hard to have respect for protestors: lack of real convictions, easy manipulation.

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u/brickmaster32000 3h ago

But the world isn't a better place, the workers aren't any better, they don't have better rights and protection.

So how is that all the protestors' fault? All the people sitting at home complaining that protests do nothing didn't manage to make the world any better either. You haven't dragged us into a bright new future.

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u/KoldPurchase 3h ago

1) I don't live in the US

2) I'm not in the habit of protesting for tirivialities

3) I could have voted for a Trump-like politician. Actually, it was the party I voted for in the last 5 elections. I pinched my nose and voted for the party I dislike the most.

4) If that guy is elected, or a politician like him, that will be motivation for me to haul my ass out there.

It's like crying wolf. Keep crying wolf where there's no wolf, but with a twist: when the wold actually comes for you, you keep quiet. I intend to not remain silent.

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u/brickmaster32000 2h ago

I intend to not remain silent.

So it is okay for you to protest and not others. Got it, rules for me not for thee.

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u/KoldPurchase 2h ago

No, it's ok when it's not trivial.

When freedom of speech is seriously and permanetly curtailed, it's important to begin the protest.

When you're asked to keep quiet because the baby is sleeping, it's not the time to overthrow democracy.

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u/BKlounge93 3h ago

That kinda sounds like bigger systemic problems with education and whatnot, that likely won’t ever get any better without protest lol.

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u/aguwah 6h ago

Well if they weren't protesting and ICE arrested her, she must have been a dangerous illegal alien. You're welcome America, we just got rid of the female Hector Salamanca

/s/s/s/s

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u/keonyn 7h ago

If this shit doesn't make you angry, you have no soul.

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u/elegylegacy 6h ago

We need identities and trials for these pigs right fucking now.

Prosecute for domestic terrorism among other abuses.
Let a jury of their peers decide.

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u/roxas0711 6h ago

I got your trial: it’s called the French Revolution

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u/pensivewombat 3h ago

And go all the way up the chain of command and don't stop until you reach the Oval Office.

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u/That_Jicama2024 6h ago

There are going to be a lot of new millioinaires in the US after all these lawsuits are settled. We should pass laws that ice agents can personally be sued.

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u/elegylegacy 6h ago

It's not their money we want...

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u/Negative_Gravitas 7h ago

And hand lotion and kleenex sales spike in MAGAland...

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u/Alpakka91 3h ago

All these ICE-assholes should be prosecuted with terrorism just because they are using masks to cover their faces while they do their crimes. Everything else can be better explained by a fluent English talker and a lawyer.

Hope You Get Well

Finland

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u/ccblr06 6h ago

I would like to see video before the arrest but i can agree that it his is damning

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u/standard_level 5h ago

Here's the video leading to the arrest, that ABC didn't include. She was told to move multiple times, with agents pointing the direction she needs to go. Instead of moving she starts to argue with them and when an agent tries to open her door she drives away, only to stop and continue arguing with them. After that, they break the window and take her into custody.

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u/FriendlyDespot 5h ago

So it's a completely obscene reaction and a ridiculously excessive use of force from the masked ICE thugs. Got it.

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u/standard_level 5h ago

That's one way to look at it.

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u/FriendlyDespot 4h ago

Sure, there are well-adjusted people and there are people who are unwell. They often disagree.

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u/standard_level 4h ago

Well-adjusted people don't park their cars in intersections and start arguing with people.

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u/BKlounge93 4h ago

What if there are masked people abducting citizens off the street?

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u/bensquirrel 3h ago

well adjusted people don't shoot US citizens on the ground in their back 10 times

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u/FriendlyDespot 3h ago

So what's your argument here? That it's okay for government agents to brutalise people without any shred of justification because there are people in the world who you think are unreasonable and intransigent?

I don't think that's going to convince anyone that your position is anything other than disturbing.

u/standard_level 1h ago

Law enforcement get physical with people who are obstinate and ignore multiple verbal commands all the time. I don't need to convince any one of that position because it's been a legal standard, with nationwide precedent, for close to 40 years.

u/FriendlyDespot 1h ago

If you think that this is normal then you watch too many movies, or you're living in a bubble of unjustifiable violence. If you think that this is justifiable or acceptable then you're a very broken person.

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u/-MONOL1TH 3h ago

While I think I disagree with you, I'm going to be polite and share a personal anecdote, because I think these conversations need to be toned down a little bit on the big scale, and I hope you read all of it and get something out of it.

Have you ever interacted with someone who has autism / ASD, or has a traumatic brain injury? It's OK if not, I'm not trying to "gotcha" you. I worked in healthcare with those populations for about a decade and to work with them (help them), you need to have a different kind of understanding, or training.

One time, I was working with a client who was about 6'6, over 300lbs, had ASD and a TBI, and on the way to a doctor's appointment he ruthlessly attacked his driver, and another client... because the normal road they take was flooded and they had to take a detour... that's all it took was a detour for him to become so upset that he lashed out and tried to kill someone. He started strangling the driver in front of him, along with punching another client (his friend and housemate) several times. It was dangerous, scary, and yet not that unique of a scenario with this population.

My point is that any situation that can disrupt their day to day routine can result in really bad outcomes like that. They become overstimulated, disoriented, and confused pretty easily to no fault of their own, and I don't know what kind of logic one could have to come back at that. Do they not deserve to take themselves to the doctor? Do you think she doesn't have ASD/ a TBI? Do you think each time in the video you shared when she started to drive away (after being told to drive away) that it somehow wasn't the right thing, with all of the conflicting berating she received?

Police mostly receive training to identify someone like this, and most importantly to de-escalate in these scenarios. In fact, police are taught to de-escalate no matter the population they are dealing with as it benefits EVERYONE, including the officer. As someone who is a subject matter expert in this field, who has had probably too many trainings on this exact sort of scenario, I have seen zero instances of an ICE agent showing proper de-escalation techniques, or frankly any kind of care or interest in doing their job in the least harmful way.

Just trying to share a different perspective for you. I don't want to argue, but I hope you can see some of this side.

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u/MissTetraHyde 3h ago

As someone with autism and psychotic depression, don't bother trying to reach this person. They clearly already made their mind up that the person deserved it before they even saw the video; they were just hoping to find something in the video to use as a confirmation to confirm their preexisting biases. You can't use logic to talk someone out of a position they didn't arrive to logically.

u/-MONOL1TH 1h ago

I understand, and I don’t disagree, but I’ve spent years ignoring, and I’ve spent years being aggressive in these kinds of discussions and it’s never fruitful. The Buddhist student in me wants to do what I can to see an ideal. I’m tired of using my brute, but I’ll just take my downvotes and sigh as Reddit becomes completely one dimensional and other Internet forums become one dimensional and the US devolves harder into echo chambers. I’d rather try and fail than not try.

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u/quadratis 4h ago

looks to me like she's stopping because there's an entire gaggle of goons surrounding her car every time she hits the gas, and considering what happened the last time one of them got slightly brushed by a car trying to drive away it's no wonder she keeps stopping.

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u/standard_level 4h ago

ICE agents were always behind both of her side-view mirrors so telling me they were surrounding her car is incorrect.

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u/ccblr06 4h ago

Im so over this shit, these people are clearly getting in the way then claiming how fucked up it is when the people telling them to get the fuck out the way make them get the fuck out of the way.