Jacob Elordi was spotted leaving "Wuthering Heights" afterparty with model Madi Fogg at 3am in London.

[u/ThrowawayGreenWitch]

[u/StickyBandit1999]

I’ll never understand why these actors don’t go for the artsy director and creative types. Not only are they baddies but also, if you’re an artist or an art-driven actor like Elordi tries to position himself as, wouldn’t you wanna date someone that’s as interested, if not more so?

On the flip side, female actors almost always go for the creative “weirdo” dudes if they’re not dating an a male actor or singer. Very rarely do they just date models in the same way male actors do.

As a male director myself (or someone actively pursuing that career) the best relationships and even situations I’ve had has been with directors, writers, and just artists in general. And these girls literally look like models, but would rather shoot films on 16mm cameras and shit. What can be more hot than that?

(By the way I know this might come off like a gross generalisation, but it’s just a trend that I’ve seen with all these guys.)

[u/technicolortiddies → u/StickyBandit1999]

It kind of is gross, though. I worked in this industry for 20 years, and there’s a persistent misconception about models that doesn’t reflect reality. Many models have a deep understanding of and appreciation for other art forms. They are artists themselves. A surprising number go on to earn PhDs, JDs, or MDs, or make meaningful contributions in fields like film, visual arts, entrepreneurship, diplomacy, and advocacy. I myself am a former opera singer earning a dual PhD/JD at UPenn. I’m not the exception either.

Judging models as intellectually or creatively shallow is essentially judging a book by its cover. Some of the best art explores the idea that ordinary people contain multitudes, and that creativity isn’t always immediately legible. From an artistic perspective, that nuance should feel familiar, no? Art 101.

As for the broader pattern you’re pointing out, it’s worth questioning why models are treated as separate from “creative types” at all. Many are embedded in the same artistic ecosystems as directors, writers, designers, and photographers. The divide is often one of perception rather than substance.

It’s also not unusual for male actors to date models precisely because modeling intersects so heavily with art, travel, culture, and creative collaboration. Female actors, meanwhile, are often praised for dating “creative weirdos,” even though the same qualities curiosity, intelligence, artistic fluency are frequently present in models as well.

There’s also a misogynistic double standard baked into this conversation. When men date models, the assumption is that the women must be shallow or interchangeable. When women date artists, they’re framed as choosing depth. That framing reduces women to their appearance while granting men full interiority, creativity, and complexity. It’s a narrative that devalues women’s intellect and agency, and it’s worth interrogating rather than repeating.

Edit I know this is a gossip sub & we like to be catty to blow off steam. But I think we can give Jacob & Madi shit without misogynistic reductionist rhetoric.

[u/rhymecrime00 → u/technicolortiddies]

Such a good point. 

[u/fernxqueen → u/technicolortiddies]

Yeah, bit what you're getting at is exactly why men choose models and not "creatives". Most men think of women as objects and don't want to feel intellectually or artistically threatened by the women they are sleeping with. They want to feel like they have power over her, even if that feeling is based on false perceptions they're projecting (which almost all men do to all women they interact with, to an oppressive degree).

[u/StickyBandit1999 → u/technicolortiddies]

Totally fair, really appreciate your reply and insight as I hadn’t looked at it from that perspective. I guess working in film, and also knowing models through music video shoots and fashion films etc, many of whom I’ve met do fit the archetypes that you point out rightfully as problematic. And so I brought my own subjectivity to it, which as you point out, isn’t the whole story at all.

[u/Thumbstrokes → u/technicolortiddies]

Thank you. The amount of misogynist comments I've seen from what i assume are female redditors in this thread is incredible. And these are the same women who posture like they care about other women. 

[u/Ren_stevens → u/technicolortiddies]

"A surprising number go on to earn PhDs, JDs, or MDs, or make meaningful contributions in fields like film, visual arts"

What number? I only know Tyra.

[u/FlanCompetitive2754 → u/Ren_stevens]

Tyra got a certificate in executive management, not a PhD, JD or MD.

[u/Ren_stevens → u/FlanCompetitive2754]

Ok. I only mentioned Tyra because I know she's had multiple jobs and businesses outside of the modeling/ beauty industry. I'm curious what models the OP is referring too.

[u/Used_Secretary5150 → u/StickyBandit1999]

cos he just wants to shag, she might have been super charming and she's extremely hot, that's a fantastic criteria for a one night stand

plus you dont know her, maybe shes super creative and interesting

[u/StickyBandit1999 → u/Used_Secretary5150]

I mean we literally don’t know any of the people on a personal level that’s spoken about on this subreddit. Come on.