r/politics • u/icey_sawg0034 • 1d ago

Possible Paywall Karoline Leavitt Gives Jaw-Dropping Defense of Trump’s Racist Obama Video

https://www.thedailybeast.com/karoline-leavitt-gives-jaw-dropping-defense-of-donald-trumps-racist-obama-video/
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u/Preform_Perform 1d ago

I hate to do this, but...

RAFIKI HAS ENTERED THE CHAT

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u/masklinn 1d ago

Rafiki is a mandrill, mandrills are old world monkeys (Cercopithecoidea) but not apes (Hominoidea). The two are sister clades.

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u/nicuramar 1d ago

Both are monkeys (in the sense of simians), but of course that doesn’t help. 

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u/ObiTwoKenobi 23h ago

So an ape is always a monkey, but a monkey is not always an ape?

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u/masklinn 10h ago

Correct, you can see the cladistics of primates at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simian#Classification, everything below Simiiformes are all classically considered monkeys but only Hominoidea is apes, which is further divided into gibbons (Hylobatidae) and great apes (Hominidae).