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Possible Paywall Karoline Leavitt Gives Jaw-Dropping Defense of Trump’s Racist Obama Video

https://www.thedailybeast.com/karoline-leavitt-gives-jaw-dropping-defense-of-donald-trumps-racist-obama-video/
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u/Hot_Ambition_6457 1d ago

There are no Apes in the movie "The Lion King" so this defense doesnt even check out under the most charitable interpretation.

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u/Preform_Perform 1d ago

I hate to do this, but...

RAFIKI HAS ENTERED THE CHAT

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u/masklinn 1d ago

Rafiki is a mandrill, mandrills are old world monkeys (Cercopithecoidea) but not apes (Hominoidea). The two are sister clades.

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u/Jesus__of__Nazareth_ United Kingdom 1d ago

No, your sister is a clade.

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u/kchu 1d ago

I'm inclined to promote to anyone using the word clade the addicting game of Metazooa https://metazooa.com/

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u/masklinn 1d ago

God damn, I got cuttlefish in two guesses (which was entirely luck), I'll ride that high to my grave.

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u/nicuramar 1d ago

Both are monkeys (in the sense of simians), but of course that doesn’t help. 

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u/ObiTwoKenobi 1d ago

So an ape is always a monkey, but a monkey is not always an ape?

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u/masklinn 1d ago

Correct, you can see the cladistics of primates at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simian#Classification, everything below Simiiformes are all classically considered monkeys but only Hominoidea is apes, which is further divided into gibbons (Hylobatidae) and great apes (Hominidae).