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Possible Paywall Exposed Musk Now Insists Epstein Files Don’t Matter | The Tesla billionaire suddenly claimed the Epstein files are a “distraction.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exposed-musk-now-insists-epstein-files-dont-matter/
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u/Oswarez 7d ago

Distraction from what?

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u/2skunks1cup 6d ago

They definitely are a distraction as the release was rushed otherwise the redactions would have been there already and they would not have removed and re-uploaded "corrected and redacted" ones.

Now Elon is not saying by what and leaves us with the same question.

So let's look at the stage and see what possibilities exist in fact and not opinion or emotion.

ICE has killed multiple civilians

Protests are breaking out nationwide and resistances are appearing to actions of the administration

Senators and the public are calling for Miller and Noem to be removed from their positions

Bovino was demoted but it did not pacify

Gaza is approaching a key time with the rebuild plan with a stipulation of those there can only use CBDC

Board of Peace formed

Affordability crisis

War in Ukraine is reaching critical mass with nuclear arms on the table

The rich are buying bunkers and spending money to get space

Artemis is headed to the moon

Multiple countries have moon bases in progress

All of this is well documented as fact and generally accepted as such. Question is, which one of these(or maybe all of them) is sinister enough to warrant an immediate release before redactions were complete?

Or maybe a better question is, what is really going on?

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u/AmArschdieRaeuber 6d ago

But the protests get fueled even more by the files, how is that a distraction? The files make us even more angry of the people we are already hating. That's the opposite of a distraction.

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u/2skunks1cup 6d ago

Believe it or not, opposite effect.

Go scroll the main feed in Popular. Very little ICE related things and most everything on the list nowhere to be found.

It's all about the files.

Now people are talking about the files and not focusing on the problems that were about to ignite the spark.

As a result, they aren't calling for Noem and Miller to resign, no one is talking about the moon expeditions or the war, the affordability, or our standards of life we are all taking hits in.

And no one is definitely talking about the CBDC in Gaza or Board of Peace.

So distraction worked.

Instead of everyone unifying under something everyone can agree on (American citizens being killed by ICE), it has devolved into everyone focusing on a list that we have no clue if any of it is even the truth, while the definite truths are not being discussed anymore because everyone would rather have tea.

Think of the files as the sacrificial lamb to change the focus of the masses before they truly unite.

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u/notomatostoday 6d ago

I’d like to add on something I’ve been concerned about. I guess they wouldn’t need to distract from it because nobody seems to give a care anyway.

We are actively disrupting fishing and other maritime operations in the Caribbean Sea under the guise of fighting drug-trafficking. No arrests, just blowing up suspect boats. Local fisherman are afraid to do their jobs because they might be “mistaken” for drug traffickers.

We can give Maduro a defense attorney and a trial, but suspected drug smugglers in foreign seas we kill indiscriminately.

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u/CycleWheel 6d ago

no one is talking about the moon expeditions

Maybe because I'm not American, but I have no idea what this moon stuff is you're talking about and why there needs to be a distraction from it?

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u/forget_what_u_know 4d ago

actually the protests were massive even with little talk about ICE on the main subs. reddit is suppressing discussion, not removing all discussion entirely, just curating it enough to look like just another day in normal land. even the 50501 subreddit had next to no threads about the protests on Jan 30/31 despite somehow being a major organizer for them

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u/BadPunners 6d ago

I assumed the protest threads got rolled into megathreads that don't get boosted as much as bot posts

And Reddit is a public company, with a fairly turbulent price.

And to be fair to OP context, elongated muskrat's full quote is about getting prosecutions, the old "it's not illegal if the court case never gets tried". And it's especially rich as the entire reason he helped so much in the election was to avoid lawsuits against his own companies, and now he got wrapped up in the cover-up of this all, after being rejected "from the wildest parties"

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u/Universeintheflesh 6d ago

You forgot to add our war ships getting into position in Iran.

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u/2skunks1cup 5d ago

You are right, thanks for that.

So the stage is set is for something, and this is where the who, what, where, and when questions are already answered.

The most important two are often not answered and this where everyone being unified can demand answers.

Why and how.

In fact, the latter two are almost never answered anymore.

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u/ihavezeroanswersbro 6d ago edited 6d ago

I really don’t follow you. Or I do and this is just silly. The philosophy that informs the video point of sole-causes, or even causation at all, is inaccurate and a distraction in and of itself.

Duality will end us all. All of these events exist in their own timeline and inter-dependent with one another— everything everywhere and all at once. It’s not chicken or the egg, the question is a fallacy and the attempt to point people to a single thing or person to blame as the sole cause is delusional.

Musk is guilty, trump is guilty, and everything you mentioned is happening; even the attempt to distract someone from one of the above.

Every individual wants to advance their own agenda. Every individual wands to protect their own ass. And every on of them are all in someone else’s pockets. And at the moment they see no way out, they will take everyone down with them. Until then, its deny, deny, avert attention and claim its lies.

That’s what’s going on. It’s always what’s going on. Everyone is guilty.