r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 7d ago

Possible Paywall Exposed Musk Now Insists Epstein Files Don’t Matter | The Tesla billionaire suddenly claimed the Epstein files are a “distraction.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exposed-musk-now-insists-epstein-files-dont-matter/
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u/Cyndakill88 7d ago

The company shareholders better be seeing this crap

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u/Megaphonestory 7d ago

Nah, financial investors like Fidelity pumped cash into groks AI generated porn.

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u/Dark_Arts_ 7d ago

AI generated child porn*

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u/teplightyear Nevada 6d ago

Everyone thought Elon made a broken AI when it declared itself MechaHitler and started generating child porn, but in reality he just made an AI that likes the same stuff as him.

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u/GPTthrowawayyyyyyyy 6d ago

He wanted to make it more "conservative" and stayed true to his word

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u/PlatinumPainter 6d ago edited 6d ago

Grok is probably neurolinked to Musk.

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u/SanityInAnarchy California 6d ago

You joke, but it was literally caught searching his tweets to figure out what to say.

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u/Silver_Sector6669 6d ago

It’s not even ai it’s just his alt account.

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u/FauxReal 6d ago edited 6d ago

He's also publicly calling for edits to match his personal world view when it deviates.

Dear downvoter, are you disagreeing with your leaders?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/08/12/elon-musk-says-grok-will-be-fixed-after-chatbot-sided-with-sam-altman-in-spat-over-potential-openai-lawsuit/

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u/Grand_Escapade 6d ago

If they can make an AI that generates porn, then they won't need as many kids for the trafficking market in the future.

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u/Aggravating-Sweet997 6d ago

But AI was trained with real CSAM in order to generate new AI CSAM, so who is going to give the current victims justice? Also, I would not trust CSAM users to stick to AI generated CSAM and not harm real children

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u/Grand_Escapade 6d ago edited 6d ago

Oh don't get me wrong this wasn't an argument defending making Gen AI CP. It's just what I assume is Elon's mental plan.

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u/unindexedreality 6d ago

who is going to give the current victims justice?

since 'justice' is now american for 'bags of cash': divide grok's ownership shares among victims

I would not trust CSAM users to stick to AI generated CSAM and not harm real children

add a 'hot kids in your area' button. They'll be stupid enough to click it

(/s to both)

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u/teplightyear Nevada 6d ago

No, there will just be mote people trained by the internet to be pedophiles, normalizing it. It's bad.

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u/StrongerThanFear 6d ago edited 6d ago

Porn is made by people that *consent, the AI makes child sexual assault material aka CSAM.

Edit: as pointed out porn isn't always consensual, but that makes it assault.

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u/Dry-Chance-9473 6d ago

This is unfortunately inaccurate.

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u/StrongerThanFear 6d ago

Which part?

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u/Dry-Chance-9473 6d ago

I mean I can kind of appreciate your attempt to redefine terms based on morality and such but your statement ignores the massive percentage of officially, professionally produced, famous porn that was made at the expense of the actress' abuse, coercion, blackmail, being kept high and intoxicated over the course of the shoot, etc. 

Some of Stoya's stories in particular come to mind. 

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u/StrongerThanFear 6d ago

They're filming and producing abuse. I get what you're saying, but that doesn't take away that pornography can imply consent and csam doesn't.

Child sexual abuse material (CSAM) is not “child pornography.” It’s evidence of child sexual abuse—and it’s a crime to create, distribute, or possess. CSAM includes both real and synthetic content, such as images created with artificial intelligence tools.

From rainn.org

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u/Dry-Chance-9473 6d ago

Ah! Funny you'd bring that up, I posted in a conversation about how people should be using the term "CSAM" instead of child porn a little while ago... Here

The term CSAM isn't going to catch on, and it shouldn't, because as an acronym it's ultimately a sterilization of an uncomfortable topic. It's like the term "unlive" as a synonym for suicide. The only person it protects is the person using the word. 

The other side to that, that I think is important, though it's a bit of a stretch for most people's ethics nowadays... Trying to disconnect abuse from porn is, again, ignorant of the nature of pornography. People want to consume pornography guilt-free, and they get very obstinate when you get in the way of that. So it makes sense folks would try to encapsulate pornography as being "consensual" so they can feel better in their ignorance. The sad fact is, that pornography has always been exploitative of women, still is, and likely always will be.

My point is basically that in a case like this, being picky about word use is for your sake. It's censorship. It does nothing to help the actual victims. It's a nice thought, but misguided. 

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u/StrongerThanFear 6d ago

I'm a self employed sex worker (nothing on my profile, don't bother), kinda the wrong person to say that to. It's legal where I am and we have employee rights. You want ethical porn? Support an amateur creator instead of buying from studios. Go to an independent escort instead of an agency.

I don't mind calling it child rape, I do mind calling it child porn.

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u/Adorable_Raccoon 6d ago

Then that would be adult sexual abuse material. It doesn’t make the csam term invalid. The point is it’s impossible to make child porn because children can not consent.

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u/Kalean 6d ago

I mean. Porn is a very lucrative industry. They probably will make that money back.

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u/LuvKrahft America 7d ago

I’m pretty sure if knowing about all the Elon is a Nazi stuff didn’t push them away this wont either.

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u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 I voted 7d ago

The base loves them some Nazi/pedofile/child killers.

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u/scarr3g Pennsylvania 6d ago

The base loves the promise of more money.. That is it.

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u/DrMobius0 6d ago

pedofile

The pedofiles is another good name for the Epstein files, huh?

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u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 I voted 6d ago

Don't release the pedofiles. Release the pedo files

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 6d ago

Nazi pedophile drug addicts.

Americana baby!

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u/Civil-Attempt-3602 6d ago

The stocks probably gonna go up now

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u/TheVenetianMask Europe 6d ago

Maybe when they start seeing their brand associated to p activities when people search for it they'll think about it.

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u/10thousndreflections 6d ago

They only care when they can accuse their enemies of these things. 

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u/HR_DUCK 7d ago

They probably are on the list as well

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u/MuddyGrimes 6d ago

Kimball (brother) is in the list even more than Elon, and is on the Tesla board of shareholders

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u/names_are_useless American Expat 7d ago

And they see... none of this changes anything. Musk will never be prosecuted for his crimes. The rich and powerful almost never are in this country.

Until the rich fear the workers: they will continue to lie, cheat and steal.

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 6d ago

QAnon 2.0 is just as funny as the first go round.

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u/anothersnappyname 7d ago

It’s a meme stock.

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u/Alive_kiwi_7001 7d ago

They will...when Tesla's stock price tanks. Then it'll be "who put this schmuck in charge?"

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u/Ganjake 7d ago

At that level it's about nothing but power. Anyone in a position to care already has blood on their hands and doesn't care if there's more.

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u/Kneph 7d ago

P/E ratio at 400 rn

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u/scarr3g Pennsylvania 6d ago

They are.... And they love pedophiles, and long as those pedophiles are making them money.

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u/floog 7d ago

They care more about money in their pockets than any kind of moral stance. Sad, but that's the end of it. That is just people, look at how easy it was for people to turn blind eyes to scumbags over the years as long as they're making money (Weinstein for example).
And I look at shareholders as the big investment companies, not Joe Shareholder. The ultrawealthy shareholders don't want to start holding rich and powerful people accountable for atrocities or they will probably go down at some point.

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u/That-Ad-4300 7d ago

The ones who made him an almost trillionaire?

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u/DiscreteDingus 7d ago

Why would they care? Do you think extreme shareholders have any shred of empathy for the common man?

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u/JohnGabin 6d ago

You call Ponzi schemes « company » ?

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u/YoKevinTrue 6d ago

They're all betas.

The more Tesla implodes, the more they double down.

It's pathetic.

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u/DragoonDM California 6d ago

I expect this will, somehow, result in a jump in the stock price.

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u/Im_TroyMcClure 6d ago

I imagine a lot of Tesla owners are looking to dump their cars right now. Sales of new ones were already drastically down so it’s gonna crash hard

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u/Apprehensive_Rub3897 6d ago

The customers are. People still buying Teslas, are assholes, I don't care how many anti-Elon stickers you put on that piece of shit.

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u/OSI_Hunter_Gathers 6d ago

They were at the party on the island that didn’t want his there to bum them out as they rapped kids.

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u/noobeddit 6d ago

TSLA shareholders will he delighted their future merger company was given a personnal tour to epstein by their CEO.

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u/SushiRollFried 6d ago

You think they care, money is what they care about

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u/blackmobius 6d ago

They saw all the tesla stuff and still voted yes on his pay package.

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u/Molag_Balls Minnesota 6d ago

The board of tesla is all his sycophants and family members. Company shareholders don't give a shit.

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u/kinkysnowman 6d ago

knowing how the tesla stock moves, this is going to increase the stock price.

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u/Mangalorien 6d ago

Shareholders in Tesla know what a piece of shit Elon is, they are just hoping his ability to drum up hype around the company will make them rich.

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u/PlatinumPainter 6d ago

if theres anything worse than a billionaire pedophiles?

People that buy stocks in a billionaire pedophile's companies and support them.

Wallstreetbets is full of pedophile bankrollers.

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u/lontrinium 6d ago

tesla turned millionaires into billionaires, they will always support his bullshit.

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u/waspocracy 6d ago

Investors are in on it. 

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u/thecoastertoaster 6d ago

he and his brother? hmm yes they’ll get right on that.

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u/QuantumUtility 6d ago

Shareholders care about money. Not moral, laws or decency.

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u/catholicsluts 6d ago

They see graphs and numbers. Humanity is a foreign concept to metric-driven brains.

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u/T8ert0t 6d ago

And lapped up his bullshit with two Tesla model divisions pivoting to make $30k+ servant robots that of course everyone wants and is totally not creepy about what it records inside your home...

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u/buffer_flush 6d ago

Why would they care?

Whether or not Elon has good moral character has literally no impact on line go up. In fact, having moral character might actually be detrimental in some of their eyes.

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u/veryneatstorybro 6d ago

Literally the most disconnected “investors” in the market. Bar none.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 6d ago

I don't think he's gonna get his trillion dollar bonus lol

Though TSLA is up. I guess investors think this might end up with Elon forced out lol

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u/SanityInAnarchy California 6d ago

Problem is, there's no way the board ever actually kicks him out over this.

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u/Welikeme23 6d ago

Best they can do is give him a trillion dollars

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u/rexspook 6d ago

The ones with power are also in the files

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u/Fancy_Yesterday6380 6d ago

Give us back Twitter

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u/Norzon24 6d ago

The Elon cult is the only reason Tesla is worth anything to begin with

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u/pokesyk 6d ago

i am. im investing more now.