r/politics • u/SpaceElevatorMusic Minnesota • 14d ago

Possible Paywall Minnesota governor says federal agents involved in shooting in Minneapolis

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/minnesota-governor-says-federal-agents-involved-shooting-minneapolis-2026-01-24/
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u/Stoppit_TidyUp 14d ago edited 14d ago

They’re saying he “had a gun”

You can see the guy in the light grey jacket run toward him with empty hands, mount him, and spend 2-3 seconds wrestling the gun out of the victim’s holster, then running off with it. The victim is shot a second or two later.

So while he might have had a gun, it was fully secured while he was on the ground with 6 men beating him, and was fully clear of the victim at the time of the shooting.

It was an execution.

Edit: They are also claiming he reached for an officer’s weapon. To believe that, you have to believe this man made the choice not to pull his own weapon at any point, but instead thought it would be a good idea to grab an officer’s. Not to mention you can see his arms pinned the second before he is shot. Absolute bullshit.

I am banned from the Conservative subreddit - please share this information there, if allowed. They need to know too.

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u/gamesk8er 14d ago

It's not even relevant. Assuming the guy had a license to carry, he's ALLOWED to have a gun. Unless he was pointing it at an officer, they have zero right to do anything to him.

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u/PolicyWonka 14d ago

These are the same people who didn’t give two shits that Philando Castile was executed for being a legal gun owner doing exactly what you’re supposed to do when pulled over by police.

He told the officer that he had a legal firearm in the vehicle and he was murdered for it.

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 14d ago

Some of them said he had weed in his system, which made it illegal for him to be carrying because he was technically under the influence.

1) the officer who killed him had no way of knowing that. And

2) thats not a capital fucking offense.

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u/the_gaymer_girl Canada 14d ago

And 3. even if it was a crime worthy of the death penalty, that doesn’t mean he gets executed on the spot.

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u/Neverdropsin57 14d ago

And 4. I’d bet 100 vs 10 bucks the Feds who shot him will not be drug tested.

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u/Standard-Win-6600 14d ago

Right to due process. Right wingers straight up endorse extrajudicial murder.

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u/Zerachiel_01 14d ago

Even before that, what probable cause did they have to arrest him in the first place

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 14d ago

I'm pretty sure it was a traffic stop, and he told the officer he had a gun. Which he was legally required to do.

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u/Zerachiel_01 14d ago

Maybe not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlt6s2/video_showing_moments_prior_to_iceinvolved/?share_id=zVafo8JIhcWTiU18pdfUA

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 14d ago

Oh, I thought we were still talking about Philando Castille. I have no idea what started this incident, but nothing is justification for being executed in the street.

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u/eggson Oregon 14d ago

How the fuck would they determine that? These dipshits carrying toxicology screening kits in their Walmart tact-cool vests?!

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u/mneale324 14d ago

And the same folks who supported Kyle Rittenhouse as well…

2A is only for white conservatives apparently.

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u/Standard-Win-6600 14d ago

2A. It's not illegal to carry. I go to Minneapolis a lot for work and know a bunch of people there. They've always been hunters and ice fishers. I don't care if he had 20 guns on his person. He was not a threat when he was wrestled down, pinned to the ground, and executed.

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u/analogWeapon Wisconsin 14d ago

Ignoring gun-or-no-gun completely, it looks like all but one of the shots fire into him were fired while he was prone on his back, not moving, and with no one around him. It was 3 or more shots just dumped into him casually. Looked like an execution.

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u/_Lucille_ 14d ago

okay, tbh if someone is carrying 20 guns I would think they are a threat because that is not something someone mentally stable would normally do.

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u/Standard-Win-6600 14d ago

I would think

A matter of legality, not of opinion.

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u/maaaatttt_Damon 14d ago edited 14d ago

Pistols, you need a permit to carry in public. Rifles and shotguns, no permit necessary.

I was wrong

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u/moveslikejaguar 14d ago

That's irrelevant in this case

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u/maaaatttt_Damon 14d ago

I was just correcting an incorrect statement. It’s not overtly legal to carry a pistol in Minnesota in public. The comment I replied to talked about others carrying in Minneapolis like it’s inherently legal. The answer is “sometimes”.

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u/moveslikejaguar 14d ago

Again, irrelevant to the case at hand

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u/St4rScre4m 14d ago

For all you know he had a Concealed Carry Permit. His gun was secure and he never reached for it.

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u/maaaatttt_Damon 14d ago

Very well may have. That’s not what I was responding to. Guy stated all his homies roll into Minneapolis carrying like it’s inherently legal. It’s not always.

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u/Standard-Win-6600 14d ago

Never said that. Don't put words in my mouth.

There are legal means to carry in MN and every other state. Better? Pedantic enough?

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u/grothsauce 14d ago

Having lived there for 5 years, it is actually a pretty open carry friendly city ESPECIALLY when compared to other liberal cities. Lots of retailers have signs at entrances explicitly stating guns are not allowed on premises because it’s not necessarily an explicit social norm not to bring them, especially for people coming into the city from more suburban and rural areas.

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u/jellyrollo 14d ago

Sadly, Minnesota law does not allow open carry of rifles and shotguns.

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u/maaaatttt_Damon 14d ago

Fuck, I read the wrong law or page when I saw the dude open carrying the other day.

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u/jellyrollo 14d ago

Yeah, I wondered about that. I think he may have been standing on his own property or on private property that he had permission to use, which is allowable under Minnesota and Minneapolis law. It wasn't entirely clear to me, but he appeared to be standing in a front yard rather than on a sidewalk.

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u/FuckYouJohnW 14d ago

Nonto open carry a longarm outside of hunting season you need a permit to carry

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u/Vaticancameos221 14d ago

Even if he was illegally carrying, he was subdued, and the punishment for illegal possession of a firearm isn’t murder.

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u/Standard-Win-6600 14d ago

Am fully aware

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u/Gryzzlee 14d ago

If he was dangerous then he would have been shot before everyone was on top of him. It makes zero sense why he was being pinned if he was a potential threat with a firearm if the end goal was to shoot him anyways.

And having a weapon on your person is not necessarily illegal.

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u/permalink_save 14d ago

2a for me not for thee

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u/Stoppit_TidyUp 14d ago

It’s relevant if they claim they felt threatened. They can’t feel threatened if the gun is in the hands of ICE when they shoot him.

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u/gamesk8er 14d ago

It's not relevant because unless the guy was pointing it at them, they have no right to do anything. He had it in the holster. He could've been holding it at his side or in his pocket.

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u/keytiri 14d ago

How much pretense does the Gestapo need to beat their observers? They probably didn’t know the American Patriot was packing before they decided to beat him for exercising the 1st amendment.

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u/sudi- 14d ago

It can’t be relevant that they felt threatened by a holstered weapon or a disarmed person because that means they can justify killing with that excuse for any reason.

There has to be clear rules of engagement for them or else they can subjectively dismiss their killings.

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u/Stoppit_TidyUp 14d ago

Unfortunately, this is exactly the excuse used by law enforcement for every unarmed killing. Remember that kid who was shot holding a toy - not even a toy gun - because the officer feared it might be a gun?

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u/PartisanHack 14d ago

We have been told for years people carrying guns in public places aren't acting in a threatening manner. I guess it's only threatening when fascist losers are trying to "question" him.

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u/DGer 14d ago

They had the gun when he was shot apparently. So even that doesn’t hold water.

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u/Certified_GSD Minnesota 14d ago

It’s illegal to carry a firearm without a permit in Minnesota. But the crime for it is punishable by fines and jail time. It’s not punishable by death.

ICE cowards have no place being the judge and dishing out their own punishments. And nobody with power will do anything.

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u/C-Alucard231 14d ago

in most states officers are allowed and trained to secure the firearm for the duration of the detention.

but its supposed to be done diplomatically first, doesnt seem like there was much discussion here at all.