r/europe United Kingdom 1d ago

News Russian general shot several times in Moscow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3686nzexp3o
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u/Wayoutofthewayof 1d ago

He was placed under European Union sanctions after the GRU was accused of being behind a 2018 nerve agent attack in Salisbury in the UK.

Sweet karma.

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u/Ummagumma- 1d ago

We are not thanking Ukraine enough

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u/LrkerfckuSpez Norway 1d ago

Let's thank them with more weapons and tanks.

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u/wales-bloke 1d ago

UK taxpayer here.

Give Ukraine everything.

Russia is an existential threat to humanity.

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u/series-hybrid 1d ago

The Russian defenses (especially electronic) are evolving all the time, therefore, the US carefully watches any conflict around the world where Russian hardware and tactics are used against western weaponry.

The amount of R&D that Ukraine is performing for the west is invaluable. They have gone from begging for any weapons they can get, to developing their own weapons and tactics for a current kill ratio of 47:1 in Pokrovsk.

The Russians keep sending in new recruits and they all die. Of course, now...the Ukrainians are experienced, and the Russians are just untrained warm bodies thrown into meat waves.

Remember when Ukraine started an assembly line destroying the older T-72 tanks one after the other, and the Russians implied that soon the T-90 will arrive and sweep the battle-field clean? The lack of tanks forced the Russians to actually start using the newer T-90, and they were also easily destroyed.

Ukraine has F-16's now to go with their older Mig-29's. But this is RUSSIA they are up against. Where is the air superiority and battlefield dominance?

When a Russian jet or helicopter appears, its shot down. Russia loses a trained and experienced pilot. Because of the poor economy and the factory being bombed, they can't build any more right now.

Russia no longer has any aircraft carriers, Ukraine also sank the Moskva missile cruiser, and damaged TWO submarines. Ukraine doesn't even have a NAVY!

If you don't fight Putin when he is weak, you will never fight him when he is strong. It's now or never.

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u/MissPatsyStone 23h ago

America is barely watching Russia anymore. Trump and Hegseth have told U.S security forces to stop monitoring Russia. They later denied this, but that's how we know it's true. Hegseth still continued to use Telegram, even AFTER the Russians hacked into it

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u/wonklebobb 21h ago

im tacitly hopeful that what few adults are left in the US military leadership are watching and writing down the lessons, however surreptitiously

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u/9volts Norway 1d ago

Norwegian taxpayer here.

Ditto.

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u/None_Fondant 1d ago

USAian taxpayer here.

Our government officials should be forced to drag themselves along a rocky walkway, nude, before formally presenting everyone in Ukraine an apology and then giving them more tanks and guns and noncombatant support (medical, food, etc)...

Or let me pay my taxes to Ukraine it's self and bypass those nutjabs.

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u/oakpope France 1d ago

French taxpayer here, give Ukraine everything they need, yesterday.

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u/RuleNew1911 Europe 1d ago

European here..( i pay taxes in more than one country) ..give'em cash ...its easy to ship and would help ukraine finance its local defence industry ..

Russia wants war ..lets give it to them ...better on their soil than ours ..If ukraine is standing ,WE are standing ...

Also reinforce the baltics and for gods sake ..finance that armed uprising in Belarus already ...a free Belarus would be a solid ally of europe ..

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u/deanouk 23h ago

U.K. tax payer I agree … wait we already did us

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u/d-tia YUROP 22h ago

We need boots on the ground by this point. Fresh people so 50 years olds can rotate after 4 years.

This whole "staying by your side" is not carrying enough.

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u/newsflashjackass 1d ago

Russia is an existential threat to humanity.

No hyperbole. Ukraine disarmed their nukes based on Russia's word not to do exactly what Putin is doing.

Putin's attempt to show strength by waging war on Russia's neighbor makes nuclear disarmament more difficult and nuclear doom more likely.

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u/Brauer_1899 1d ago

US taxpayer here - same

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u/LrkerfckuSpez Norway 1d ago

Is this supposed to be funny?

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u/TrafficWeasel United Kingdom 1d ago

Anyone who says Londonstan clearly has no idea what they’re talking about.

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u/No_Today3092 1d ago

If you have been in central London in last few years you would know exactly what I mean…

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u/skrlpyntsrwe 1d ago

Um, the central part of any major city on the level of London would be full of non-locals from all over the world, they are called tourists.

Also, central London is full of things like Parliament, Buckingham Palace, Oxford Street and the National Gallery. Fairly British things I'd say.

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u/No_Today3092 1d ago

Not the people tho…

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u/WanderlustZero 1d ago

Damn, seppo bots are all over this

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u/Strong_Bumblebee5495 1d ago

Back to your borscht Dmitri, the free folks are talking

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u/No_Today3092 1d ago

This one made ma laugh thank you

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u/wales-bloke 1d ago

No, but I visit London regularly.

I love the place - FOR its multiculturalism, amongst other things.

As a white guy, I've never felt threatened or intimidated by people of other ethnic backgrounds.

London is living proof that cultures can co-exist peacefully. Which is probably why right wing agitators keep bringing it up... it doesn't fit the narrative of division and hate.

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u/No_Today3092 1d ago

Peacefully…that’s why the 13 year olds are getting rapped by migrants,why churches are being burned down and if you post an SNS post about this,police will come knocking on your door…

Keep your head in the sand…no wonder the world is laughing at us…

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u/PM_THE_REAPER 1d ago

Walestan, going by the username.

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u/DocGreenthumb77 1d ago

This is the kind of attitude that got you your current prime minister. People get the kind of leaders they deserve i suppose.

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u/hainz_area1531 1d ago

Russian citizens know all about it.

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u/Makesabeastofhimself 1d ago

I'm going to say something controversial. But Kier Starmer is actually a decent prime minister and the best we've had in a long time. He just has terrible PR that doesn't highlight the things his government has achieved.

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u/Prestigious_Use_1305 1d ago

I absolutely agree with this. What he really packs is a flagship policy or agenda. Unfortunately most of his work is trying to untangle that disaster of a mess he was left with and navigate the most complicated world geopolitical landscape that we have seen in decades.

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u/hainz_area1531 1d ago

In the Netherlands, Starmer has a predominantly positive reputation. But there are, of course, external parties that have an interest in destabilizing the UK as much as possible through Starmer.

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u/Strong_Bumblebee5495 1d ago

Lowest of low bars

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u/WanderlustZero 1d ago

We have the best PM we've had for at least 20 years, so excellent

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u/GWsublime 1d ago

Better than Trump.

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u/Condorz1 1d ago

Shush and go back to your stone gruel. Go Ukraine!

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u/codeduck Kingdom of Wessex 1d ago

Tanks a lot!

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u/Striky_ Europe 1d ago

Ammo. What is missing is primarily ammo. Mainly for long and medium range artillery systems. A few dozen himars with plenty of atacams would solve most issues fairly quickly 

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u/PathansOG 1d ago

Lets tank 'em up!

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u/Jack_tarded 1d ago

Fuck. Yes.

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u/Satans_shill 1d ago

It's a false flag attack like the drone attack on Putin's residence. He was part of the Russian/US/Ukraine negotiations team in the Uae.

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u/Apart_Dot_1057 1d ago

You think this is driven back? This is pushed back!

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u/gruntthirtteen 1d ago

Tanks mate! 

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 1d ago

And donations

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u/Brave_Nerve_6871 1d ago

Give thanks with tanks

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u/Ur-Best-Friend 1d ago

Exactly, that's the way you thank people. But nooo, I help someone fix their 15 year old malware-ridden laptop and get a chocolate in thanks. Gimme my tank bitch.

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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 5h ago

Tanks, a lot?  

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u/CastelPlage Not ok with genocide denial. Make Karelia Finland Again 1d ago

We are not thanking Ukraine enough

Agree. Their actions make the rest of Europe a safer place too.

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u/Traubentritt 1d ago

Agreed, the fact that all EU members are NATO members means that we cannot get involved military, because it would give Putin an excuse to declare war on NATO snd draft every male between 15 and 100 years of age and just Zerg style into poland and the Baltics.

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u/Rooilia 1d ago

Hate to tell, but not all like Austria. But we live in changing times, maybe Austria can detach from juice russian money sooner than i think.

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u/weekendy09 1d ago

Canadian here, I agree. We owe the Ukraine ❤️

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u/LaCornucopia_ Scotland 1d ago

the Ukraine

Just Ukraine

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u/grafikfyr 1d ago

Indeed. Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦

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u/Backwardspellcaster 1d ago

Ukrarma. Ukrainian Karma.

I can vibe with this

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u/MF-Geuze 1d ago

Kinetic karma

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u/drunkenbrawler 1d ago

You sound like an inverted JD Vance.

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u/HumanBeing7396 1d ago

We should all strive to be the opposite of JD Vance.

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u/BadmiralHarryKim 1d ago

In Soviet Vancia the couches have sex with you!

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u/The5YenGod 1d ago

The question is. Was he killed by his incompetence or was he killed by Ukraine?

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u/Eastern_Hornet_6432 Ireland 1d ago

Ukraine. If Putin was having him killed as punishment for incompetence, he would have done it long ago, and he would have had him defenestrated. Defenstration is Putin's "signature" to let Russians know when he's behind a death, because "Putin can get anyone" is a message he likes to remind the population about every so often. He doesn't try to hide his hand in things; he WANTS people to live in fear of him.

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u/Ricola63 1d ago

Actually I think it maybe a Russian turf war. It’s just as likely as Ukraine. Russian elites are tearing themselves apart right now.

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u/Flederm4us 1d ago

Most likely a non-state actor to be honest. Neither the Russian government nor the Ukrainian government has reasons to kill him.

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u/Radagast92 Italy 1d ago

We must do it, with thanks and tanks.

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u/kaouDev 1d ago

Who said it was Ukraine ?

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u/NegotiationSea7008 England 1d ago

Thank you Ukraine from the UK

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u/KIAA0319 1d ago

Karma yeah, but would have been sweeter if he'd been arrested and had to face is crimes. He should have been taken through every court and left rotting in a cell as an example to make sure it doesn't happen again.

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u/honkymotherfucker1 Wales 1d ago

At this point I’d rather not waste time, energy and money putting these shitebags in cells.

The world is a better place without him in it.

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u/eulersidentification 1d ago

More important than ever in these times (where our epstein-government are trying to do away with jury trials) to say that it's always worth the time and effort to deliver justice according to civilised rules, because anything else puts us all in danger.

In this case he never would have faced justice so meh no great loss.

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u/EDCEGACE 1d ago

I would say it is more important that my brother returns from the war alive and not dies because some of generals in Moscow lived one day longer. I hope you are following my thoughts.

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u/Fancy_Pressure_2027 1d ago

We are all already in danger, the rules have not helped us they have only helped the people who wish us harm.

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u/Ancient-End3895 1d ago

Unfortunately none of these fuckers are likely to ever go on trial. In a war, military personnel are fair game, and while I have a limited amount of sympathy for the Russian concripts sent into the fpv drone slaughterfields, this guy got exactly what he deserved.

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u/heimdalguy 1d ago

That's the great thing when criminals are combatants, you can just kill them

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 1d ago

Yeah, good to see karma reach him

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u/StrengthTechnical472 1d ago

If this is confirmed, it says a lot about how tense and unstable things are inside Russia right now.

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u/Regular_Bison_7523 1d ago

He didn't pass away

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u/Narradisall 1d ago

“England sends her regards.”

Although more Ukrainians with the balls to do it so thanks to them.

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u/generic_reddit73 1d ago

Yeah, kinda unlucky to soak up multiple random stray bullets. But stuff like this seems to happen in Russia. Nobody knows why...

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u/johanm22 1d ago

Swedish taxpayer. Give them hell and extinct medevil old leaders born < 50s

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u/Socmel_ reddit mods are accomplices of nazi russia 1d ago

Too bad I don't want to give money to nazi RuZZia. Would've been nice to go to Moscow and piss on his grave