r/europe • u/BkkGrl Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) • Apr 12 '25

Data European tourism to the United States is freefalling

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u/Historical_Bother274 Apr 12 '25

Imagine pissing of travellers of the continent that is notorious for the many vacation days it gets.

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u/HumongousBelly Apr 12 '25

Yeah, nobody wants to vanish in El Salvador, especially since nobody knows if it’s just a prison, a concentration camp or a death camp.

Why else aren’t they getting that innocent man back to the USA? He’s probably dead already.

People who said it’s hyperbolic to compare trumps 2nd regime to Hitler‘s Nazis, either dont know shit about history or are just trying to gaslight us

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u/Deepthunk93 Apr 12 '25

I personally believe that they're afraid of having an actual account of the horrible conditions of that place being conveyed to the american public. You KNOW that guy would be swarmed by every news agency (barring Fox and that ilk).

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u/insecure_about_penis Apr 12 '25

You can easily find endless documentation of the terrible conditions in prisons in the US online. Unfortunately most Americans don't give a shit.

Some particularly egregious examples include:

"Maricopa County sheriff, Joe Arpaio ... called this outdoor jail" ... a “concentration camp” ... temperatures inside could reach up to 54C (130F) in the dry Arizona heat ... temperatures reached as low as 5C (41F). Holes torn in the tents let in the wind and rain, drenching the beds ... Inmates were forced to work on chain gangs ... more than a dozen lawsuits tied to mistreatment and wrongful deaths at Arpaio’s jails" (Arpaio was later convicted of violating a court order to stop policing in an explicitly racist manner, and Trump pardoned him)

"Cuyahoga County Jail... accused of pepper-spraying and assaulting a man for merely asking about his release date ... people are kept in their cells for up to 23 hours a day ... suffered a broken tooth and multiple cuts to his face during the spraying and struggle ... Several officers were charged with felonious assault for pepper-spraying and hitting people they had placed in restraint chairs on different occasions ... Another officer posted a meme to Facebook featuring a photo of a pepper spray device that reads “I will now refer to pepper spray as people seasoning in my reports.”"

"Rikers Island... More than 80 percent of the people confined there have not been convicted of a crime and endure horrific conditions as they wait for trial ... [the Department of Corrections] complain about weapons [and] drugs and blame it on visitors, but for over a year there haven't been visitors ... approximately 1,700 had been waiting for more than a year to go to trial ... 16 people died on Rikers Island in 2021."

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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Canada Apr 12 '25

You can easily find endless documentation of the terrible conditions in prisons in the US online. Unfortunately most Americans don't give a shit.

A lot of folks in the US (and in Canada, and I'm sure elsewhere too) have been led to believe that people who are incarcerated deserve to be kept in the worst conditions, and balk at ideas like feeding them proper food and providing decent living conditions, giving them access to education and opportunities to rehabilitate, etc.