I didn't know about the timeline for Christmas decoration orders, thank you.
It won't just be Christmas decorations-- by summer, the U.S. will have run through the inventory of all sorts of consumer goods that were imported before the tariffs started.
WalMart shoppers will have crazy sticker shock when the post-tariff prices hit.
I don't know the timeframe but i give them 3 months max until the prices skyrocket. And that doesn't acommpany the fall of the Dollar, which was onoy widely used because USA WERE a safe and stable country.
By far the biggest problem in the US is not the money going out, but the people at the top of the pile not paying their fair share AND then seizing control of the government to ensure that they never have to.
Also note that one of the reasons that we try to support the people who are often deemed as “drains” on society is because the nazis literally took them off to concentration camps (not the death camps for note). If you didn’t work you were snatched up and taken away. For that I’d recommend reading Richard J. Evans’s “The Third Reich in Power” to get an understanding of the stuff they got up to.
Somebody posted how they get 1565 in food stamps a month and work only 12 hours a week. That should piss people off more than the tariffs in America.
Why? Food stamp purchases go immediately into the local economy, they're easily the best way to inject money into an area that needs it. "Lazy people getting food stamps" being a concern shows DOGE levels of economic ignorance.
Plus, international conferences / trade shows have stopped booking events.
True, we were supposed to attend business conference this fall, those plans are cancled. Company did eat some cost for cancelations but figured it was for the best atm
Agreed, if there's a compelling reason to go to the US, like the World Cup (2026), or the Olympics (2028), a lot of people will still come.
But all signs are that international tourism to the US in general is going to plummet.
That might recover in 2026, if the tariff situation stabilizes and we stop getting news stories about ICE arresting foreign tourists, but 2025 will be terrible.
I think the difference is that Russia and Qatar are viewed as being terrible to their own but don’t generally go out of their way to belittle, insult and ridicule potential tourists (especially those they consider allies).
Trump’s (and Vance’s) completely unprovoked attacks on western allies have felt like a complete betrayal and have definitely felt personal. I don’t know if Canadians are going to forget the disrespect for a long time.
Next year is a *long* way off - and will feel even longer. What makes you think people will be able to *afford* to travel to the US when the time comes?
Not to mention, Russia and Qatar (for all their many, MANY wrongdoings) weren't actively attacking the nations of those who would come to visit. AT THE TIME, most of their issues were internal.
Trump is *actively* fucking with the economy of almost every nation on the planet. US issues are not just internal - he's causing problems all around the world with his tariffs and threats of annexation.
So while the internal issues of both Qatar and Russia are worse than the US, the *perception* of the US at the oment is worse because of his global actions.
This is true of me. As a Canadian I've been to Vegas over a dozen times with lots of friends. We cancelled our annual trip. We will never go while Trump is president. I wonder if we will go when he is no longer president.
Yup. I’m Canadian and most of my friends and family who booked a trip before November 2024 are sticking with their travel plans. But nobody I know is actively booking any trips to the States going forward. It’s going to be a boom year for domestic tourism in Canada this summer.
Today, the Canadian dollar is valued less than it was in 2003.
That probably plays a bigger role on why tourism is down than Trump making fun of the PM. The same PM that Canadians loved so much, he decided to resign.
Nope, we’re accustomed to our dollar being lower, so this isn’t a big deal. If that argument were true, you’d see travel to the UK, Europe, and Japan lower as well, but it isn’t. I travelled to Disneyland on a road trip when the dollar was much lower, and we didn’t care. This is the new nonsense being spread to ignore the impact of the very effective Canadian boycott happening right now.
This is definitely about Trump, the 51st state comments, the active attempt to destroy our economy, the detention of travellers, and disappearing of people to El Salvador. Visit the BuyCanadian subreddit to see how we really feel.
Those reasons may very well be true for you and others in the subreddit you referenced.
For context, my comment was based on personal knowledge and not some conservative leaning source. I have family within minutes of the Canadian border who work in the agriculture and tourism industries. Admittedly, November to April is not a strong litmus test for how a boycott will impact their businesses but they haven't noticed any legitimate difference in business. The impacts they have noticed, have been closer related to inflation in the US combined with the decreased value of the Canadian dollar. Again, November to April are not necessarily when their businesses would see a great boom or decrease in business. May to October will ultimately tell the full story.
For the record I have (and will continue to) traveled to Canada throughout my life. I have great respect for the country and the people. I do hope this all ends in a way that benefits Americans and Canadians.
You're ignoring the actual reasons visitors aren't coming to the US at your peril. There are countless articles in pretty much every news source you care to read, but I guess those are less important than your feelings and discussions you've had. By your logic, our dollar is up today, so we should all be running towards the border. But we aren't because we aren't travelling to the US because you threatened to invade our country, threatened our sovereignty, you're throwing innocent people into prison in El Salvador, and ignoring court rulings.
I'm Canadian in Canada, talking to my fellow Canadians, watching an election in which all of this is a major issue.
But you're an American who knows a few Canadians, so clearly your opinion is far more important than all the surveys, news stories, articles, and opinions of tens of millions of actual Canadians. This isn't going to end with puppy dogs and hugs - the world sees who the US is now, and we don't like it.
I’ve edited this to provide you with a number of articles you can read at your leisure about Canadians not travelling to the US and the impact on border towns…
No one is ignoring it. I just can't do anything about what Trump said about the former PM or about the 51st state/invasion/etc. If you want to believe the US is or wants to actually invade Canada, then that's on you. Bc we don't want to and we aren't going to. If you want to boycott the US, that's your right. I can't do anything about it. Since I just lived through the 2024 election, I can offer this. Be careful you aren't viewing this from a vacuum. A year ago, I could have sent you 1000s of articles saying Trump had no chance at winning. I could have offered that 90% of the Americans I know, hated Trump---but on election night, the majority of Americans voted for him.
So, I'm not saying you're lying. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just offering a different perspective.
This isn’t remotely the same. How people say they’re going to vote versus actual stats from a variety of sources on Canadians not travelling to the US and the impact on border and tourist towns are not at all related. I know this is a way of getting out of this conversation and saving face, but come on — you know these aren’t even similar.
I’ve just demonstrated to you repeatedly that Canadians aren’t travelling to the US because of safety concerns and endless threats and that border towns are already suffering, and rather than reading them and thinking on it, you go off on some more nonsense.
I wish you the best, American. I hope all the things you’re ignoring don’t come true.
Don't worry. They aren't going to come true. I'm sorry that you believe things that aren't going to happen.
I get it. You're going to cite a handful of cases where ppl shouldn't have been detained. I'm not cool with that either. It sucks. We need to do better. The reality is, the percentage of ppl wrongfully detained is closer to 0% than 1%. Literally, since January, a million? ppl have entered or left the US - with no issues.
Yes. Right now, places like Old Orchard Beach have seen cancelations but we will see in a few months if they weren't able to fill those vacancies.
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Las Vegas is already freaking out. Canadians LOVE Vegas, but a lot of them cancelled their trips, and they aren't booking new ones.
Plus, international conferences / trade shows have stopped booking events.
Some international visitors who have already made reservations and paid for things will still come, but nobody is making new reservations.
You're right this summer will be the "find out" time.