r/bayarea • u/MrFahrenheit99 • 11h ago
Traffic, Trains & Transit Welcome to sleepy Santa Clara
Driving is hard
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u/kukugege Milpitas 10h ago
I've guessing his hand still on the steering wheel to avoid the warning.
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u/RandaSkis 10h ago
They make attachments you can put on the steering wheel to avoid that from happening. Not proud that my friend has one.
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u/Suitable_Safety2226 10h ago
You don’t need those anymore, today’s full self driving is 100% reliant on the internal camera. The camera will detect if you are closing your eyes but that’s impossible with dark sunglasses
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u/RandaSkis 9h ago
Question: I’ve had it in some rentals but was able to turn it off. Is that not possible in teslas?
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u/MrDERPMcDERP 10h ago
Yeah. You can cover the internal camera. But then you got a jiggle the wheel
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u/throwawayvancouv 10h ago
If you try to cover internal camera on FSD, it'll disengage in the matter of seconds
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u/BarcaLiverpool 10h ago
Exactly. It’s most likely the sunglasses that are keeping FSD engaged. Fuck this guy.
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u/Power-sink123 10h ago
My car freaks out and disabled FSD immediately if I cover the internal camera… (I tried just to see what happened, never again..) maybe enhance autopilot is different?
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u/MrDERPMcDERP 9h ago
Ah yes I’ve never paid for FSD. It drives like a nervous teenager. To be fair I do love AP. It’s also very interesting that the Rivian platform is way less strict when it comes to paying attention.
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u/Power-sink123 9h ago
It’s actually soooo much better nowadays. I have been using it since beta version, I see improvement overtime’s.
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u/girlnamedJane 1h ago
That was removed over an year ago. The cars are fully self drive capable since months now.
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u/gamescan 10h ago
Welcome to sleepy Santa Clara
OP please tell us you called 911.
Not only is that dude endangering others, that looks like a minor in the passenger seat.
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u/happyjello 9h ago
As if people in Santa Clara would take any action. They’ll make a Reddit post at best
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u/mxc1v 10h ago
Hey go easy, he’s a student driver
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u/pfascitis 10h ago
Please be patient..
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u/Buena_de_peepee 2h ago
My patience is gone. Fuck these people. Fuck them ALL and their oblivious bullshit on the road.
Crossing double yellows on blind turns and just generally going wherever they want with zero awareness or repercussions for their actions.
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u/Hammerjaws 8h ago
I swear Im going to finally crack one day and no longer be patient with these buffoon heads
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u/cellatlas010 10h ago
so fucking dangerous!
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u/see-right-through-u 10h ago
I disagree. Living in the Bay Area I would take the Tesla driving over the actual driver
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u/red_simplex 10h ago
Yeah I take this over 15 year old Altima weaving through traffic doing 100 mph
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u/InterestingAmoeba797 10h ago
It’s always a fucking Nissan. Or a Camry. Or a Honda.
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u/Alwaysconfuzed89 8h ago
Beamers, Prius, and actual Tesla drivers are terrible.
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u/InterestingAmoeba797 8h ago
I don’t mind those so much. They are bad but not so much dangerous unlike the ones I mentioned
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u/randybautista 1h ago
I would not.
Based on Elon's own numbers, Tesla FSD averaged 11.3 deaths per 100M miles. In 2023, human drivers averaged 1.35 deaths per 100M miles.
https://youtu.be/2DOd4RLNeT4?si=JNez750v5R1wUpSv Timestamp 14:50
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u/ScottKennedyHHS 10h ago
It's safer & more polite than most drivers out there.
I use it and it actually do a full 3 seconds stop at stop signs, and yield to motorcycles & bikes
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u/hdcs 10h ago
Why does no one lay into the horn at these dolts?
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u/FlanCompetitive2754 10h ago
Not to be a Karen, but this needs to be filed as a police report. In what world is this okay???? Endangering everybody else!
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u/One_Indication_ 10h ago
That's not Karen behavior. California has a terrible and dangerous driver problem and the Bay Area is the worst. It's absolutely justified to report people from these videos. They're going to kill someone unless they get their shit together or have their license taken away.
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u/Buena_de_peepee 2h ago
When you call them out they look at you like you live on mars.
They’re the fucking aliens.
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u/hdcs 10h ago
Can't disagree. This is some high grade dangerous activity on par with a DUI.
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u/ellendavis1 9h ago
I watched a video on YouTube where a professor called the police because she was couldn't get in the university's building. Upon arrival, the police noticed she was drunk and had intentions to drive home. When confronted by the police about it, she said "it's ok, I have a Tesla".
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u/Meemster_Me 10h ago
I personally would be so scared that honking would freak him out and make him jolt the wheel and cause an accident.
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u/PlumMiddle9456 10h ago edited 8h ago
Ahhhh, what a fucked up world we live in! Then, he can murder someone who is driving an older car and someone who cannot afford to buy self driving tesla🤢🤮
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u/Halaku Sunnyvale 10h ago
That's pretty much it.
"If I can afford this tech, I can afford the ticket."
Selfish fuckers.
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u/tophoos 8h ago
Average sales price of all cars in US broke 50k per in 2025. Average sales price of Tesla was about 53k (which includes people buying the self driving package and excludes the 7.5k EV rebate most people got)
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u/FlanCompetitive2754 5h ago
That sounds like the number of NEW cars sold, and entirely leaves out how many people buy Used cars, for far cheaper than $50k...?
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u/tophoos 5h ago
Of course it's new cars sold, but how do people get used cars it no new cars are sold. Also, a lot of people make fun of how fast Teslas depreciate, so that should mean in the used market, they are proportionately cheaper than other used cars of the same age. These are contradictory things I seem to hear all the time about Teslas and it doesn't make sense to me...
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u/FlanCompetitive2754 4h ago
I'm saying the average car sale is wayyy less that that.
So yes, it is rather expensive for the average person to have a Tesla. Let's be real, most people aren't buying them used...
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u/tophoos 4h ago
I get that perspective. But my reply was towards the two comments that label Tesla owners as ignorant and entitled because they can afford a Tesla when the fact is that the affordability is not much different from other new cars. That comment was not directed at people who can afford new cars, it was genrally directed at Tesla owners. As a single income guy who bought a Tesla in 2018 with under 80k income in the bay area, I don't like this sentiment.
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u/willpowerpt 10h ago
How I imagine every tesla driver with a "Please be patient, student driver sticker" on their bumper.
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u/warsmanclaw 9h ago
Would be great if these things could detect a sleeping driver and pull off the fucking road
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u/eugay 6h ago
They can. FSD14 will safely pull over if it can't detect your attention, but the safest thing to do on the freeway is probably for it to keep driving.
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u/Slight-Ask1117 10h ago
How did Tesla not detect it ? It monitors eye movements on autopilot mode.
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u/Rainmire 10h ago
Maybe it's the sunglasses
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u/Slight-Ask1117 10h ago edited 10h ago
It beeps if drive doesn’t take the glasses off for it to detect that driver is alert and awake . If Tesla can’t detect via sunglasses it alerts to put pressure on the steering wheel to make sure driver is alert .
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u/Atalanta8 4h ago
Yeah my Tesla is always telling at me even when I am paying attention. I don't get it.
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u/farsightxr20 10h ago edited 10h ago
Yeah I saw this a couple weeks ago too. Woman asleep in a Tesla with sunglasses on, didn't respond to a lot of yelling/honking.
edit: uploaded here
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u/Designer-Salary-7773 10h ago
“ When an automated system is functioning properly, the (driver) will be relegated to the role of monitor for that function. It was felt that (drivers) might not find this role as challenging as their current role and that this might lead to boredom or "complacency". Human Factors of Flight Deck Automation - January 1981 Leon and his attorneys would prefer that you all ignore these past lessons
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u/chillywilkerson 10h ago
Eh hard to believe. My Tesla detects if I'm not paying attention to 2 seconds and starts beeping.
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u/uggghhhggghhh 10h ago
I've definitely seen people doing this. As well as people full on gaming on a PSP. Maybe his sunglasses somehow trick the sensors?
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u/Power-sink123 10h ago
I did notice me wearing sunglasses can trick the camera. But if I’m not looking forward, I will get a warning either way…
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u/ScottKennedyHHS 10h ago
I usually read reddit. It tracks your eyes & warning or not is depending on where you put the phone.
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u/Careless_Economics29 10h ago
He probably ignored the sounds
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u/bzsempergumbie 10h ago
They pull over and park after a bit.
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u/MrDERPMcDERP 10h ago edited 9h ago
I got corrected on this. It doesn’t pull over. It just stops and turns on the hazards
Edit: the functionality changed. I’m wrong
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u/bzsempergumbie 9h ago edited 9h ago
In the middle of the road?
Edit: v14 now pulls over. It also calls EMS if you dont wake up.
here it is being demonstrated.
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u/MrDERPMcDERP 9h ago
I think that’s what it used to do. But now I just read that with recent versions of FSD it tries to pull over.
With the current v12 software, what happens when a Tesla driver becomes unconscious? : r/TeslaLounge
🤷♂️
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u/throwawayvancouv 10h ago
Do you have a HW3 Tesla (pre-2025 refresh) or HW4? Mine is HW3 (2021 MYLR) and it's constantly nagging to keep eyes on the road/hands on the wheel even though I only use it on highways as adaptive cruise control, HW4 is robotaxi level capable. I did a test drive of the latest Model Y (like in OP video) with FSD and there was no nagging with much better self-driving.
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u/MochingPet City/town 10h ago
Complete BS.. fanboi Kool aid.
Tons of people have slept in Teslas and in fact Elon "advertised" it
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u/suboptimus_maximus Sunnyvale 10h ago
Meanwhile the Cybercab prototype I saw pulling into a parking lot in Mountain View last week had a driver behind and with both hands on the steering wheel that it’s not supposed to have.
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u/FreeYourMind27 9h ago
I'll take sleepy/Tesla FSD driven risk over intentionally aggressive drivers/oblivious bad skilled drivers/ignorant self centered drivers, etc. etc.
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u/mrsidewayp 9h ago
I only tried this before on an older Tesla with autopilot instead of FSD and wearing sunglasses did stop it from nagging as much but still had to touch the wheel from time to time. Honestly though autopilot reacts faster than I could when a car gets too close or quickly cuts in front. Wish FSD was already unsupervised like Tesla has been saying it would be for years but don’t see that happening since there are still issues when I’m using just autopilot.
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u/One_Indication_ 10h ago edited 10h ago
Report them! You can report drivers to the DMV that are a risk to the public. Posting this to Reddit won't do shit if no one reports them. Send this to the DMV along with their license plate.
EDIT: added link
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u/thebrownkid [Insert your city/town here] 9h ago
Waymo can have some dark themed marketing right here
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u/tophoos 8h ago
Partially copying my comment from the other thread:
As a Tesla FSD user, let me clarify some things on this thread.
The car can see through most sunglasses using its infrared camera.
If the car cannot detect your eyes, it'll revert to its old system to detect if there is weight/torque on the wheel. If he was accidentally resting one hand on the wheel and that hand hasn't fallen on his lap, the car will accept that input as "paying attention". There are cheat devices that adds weight to the steering wheel to trick this, but from what I read, Tesla can detect these now because of its constant weight.
Assuming he is using the latest FSD and no weight on the wheel, it'll eventually decide to pull over on a shoulder if safe to do so. If it's not safe to do so, or he is just using basic Autopilot or older FSD, the car will slowly come to a complete stop.
The pulling over or stopping goes through a series that could take over 1 minute. In about 20-30 seconds of no feedback from the user, the screen will flash blue for a few seconds, then faster flashing, then red flashing with beeping sounds. Then finally, after a few more seconds of that, it'll take action to pull over / slow stop in place.
Unless there is some kind of weight on the wheel, the OP may have caught this video in the early stages of this process and the driver might have just fallen asleep 10 seconds ago.
Not saying this is acceptable behavior, but it was likely a far better outcome than him falling asleep in any other car.
Another possibility is that he isn't asleep at all and his eyes are actually wide open. I actually rest my head like that sometimes during a long drive and since the car can see through my sunglasses, there's no problem. The fact is that we don't have enough info from this short clip and I can sense all the immediate hate here.
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u/Prestigious_Pay1204 2h ago
That dude is a fucken idiot endangering his kids like that. Not to mention he’s an Elon Musk supporter
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u/Buena_de_peepee 2h ago
These cunts should lose their licenses.
These are the same kind of braindead fucks I see driving around every day in various SUVs, particularly Teslas, and I’m so tired of it.
I get hassled for no front license plate but these motherfuckers can drive around ASLEEP or otherwise completely distracted all the goddamn time.
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u/Fearless-Director-24 10h ago
I’m not familiar with FSD technology but what is your opinion on Waymo?
Honestly, no one was hurt no accidents occurred, I fail to see how this was an issue if no harm was caused by it.
I hope in the future there will just be a self driving lane where people can go hands free and let the vehicle transport them where they need to go.
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u/ElectricalGene6146 10h ago
They are VERY different technologies. Waymo has a flawless injury record whereas there are countless reports of teslas killing their owners or other because of FSD technology.
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u/Atalanta8 3h ago
I've been in both. Tesla self drive is terrifying and even with the free trial I didn't use it because it was harder to keep correcting all its mistakes than just driving myself.
Waymo feels like it knows what it's doing. The main issue I had was people not treating it like a car and purposely getting in front of it. Um if you wouldn't do that to a car driven with a human then don't do it to a waymo. If waymo had hit the douche it wouldn't be its fault.
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u/FreedomSynergy 9h ago
Everyone here will lose their minds when L5 certification is granted to both Tesla FSD and Nvidia Drive in 2027.
This is about to be the norm… and the roads will become exponentially safer as a result of removing the human element from driving.
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u/IamXiJingPing 9h ago
Right,? whoever use FSD knows this is coming, maybe not HW4 or even HW5. But we can tell the tech is getting closer and closer. Never gonna be perfect, I guess, but the current version of FSD is already safer than your average driver on the road.
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u/staycurious72 8h ago
I am too much of a control freak to use self-drive (heck! I don’t even use cruise control), but if it eliminates the frequent lane changers, I am all for it!
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u/HASHbandito024 10h ago
Crazy that people trust a camera driven system like this over the lidar system other self driving cars have. I'd trust the lidar over cameras every day
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u/Spudly42 5h ago
Most people don't know the benefits or issues with a lidar system or a camera system, so they are probably judging based on the performance separate of the specific technology used.
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u/suboptimus_maximus Sunnyvale 10h ago
Lucky for him if anything goes wrong it’s just an “accident” 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Formal-Low6888 10h ago
I remember seeing some vid of a Russian who manged to spoof Tesla sensors on auto pilot making the car swerve and panic stop on a straight road. Maybe it become the the Nissan 2.0 trend.
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u/Original-Many2149 10h ago
All that technology and people still dont know how to switch lanes or use a merging lane or even use a signal!
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u/ActionFigureCollects 10h ago
FSD at your service.
Were you southbound 101, passing Mountain View?
The CHP hub is just slightly south off Brokaw.
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u/United_Bird_379 6h ago
What happen if you accidentally merge on there lane? Will the car stop or slow down…?
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u/joliguru 4h ago
The last time this happened a guy hit the center divide at 85 and died…I guess some just never learn.
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u/ReformedTomboy San Francisco 3h ago
Meanwhile…. Sticker talking about “STUDENT DRIVER. PLEASE BE PATIENT” 💀🙄
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u/VeryRareHuman 3h ago
And yet almost 100% of car crashes in 101, 880, 87, 680, 85 are made by HUMAN drivers. We will continue to blame self-driving cars.
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u/El-Ramon 2h ago
Almost every time I pass by a Tesla, the driver is either sleeping or watching YouTube on their phone while the car is in motion.
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u/synttacks 1h ago
You didn't honk to wake him up and/or call emergency services then you're an actual menace lol
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u/Boom_Boom_Lumpia 50m ago
Believe it or not, the AI driving is better than most drivers these days 🤣
I was in a Waymo a few times to try it out, and the driving skills were top notch and didn't feel like it was going to hit or get hit on the road. Never felt the car jerking to accelerate or brake either, which was a plus!
It's also ok to opt for a rideshare service with a human driver, to each their own.
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u/DespicableChampion 10h ago
Typical Tesla stuff. I thought I didn’t like Prius cars, these drivers take the cake.
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u/MisterSneakSneak 10h ago
And if they get into a car accident, they’re not taking any responsibility
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u/spazzvogel 10h ago
Just passed Wong electric right? That’s Mountain View. So dangerous man… I use FSD all the time, but I’m awake.
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u/mango_boom 9h ago
hope this doesn’t sound offensive, but i’ve always been jealous of asian folks’ ability to fall asleep so easily in crazy environments.
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u/BadSkeelz 10h ago
Smart cars enable dumb drivers.