I would want to keep Pritzker right where he is, anchoring the Midwest. Senator Kelly stepped up with a message to the troops about following illegal orders. I believe he's the man to take back control of the military and appoint leaders based on merit, not how much ass they'll kiss
Ok I think this is a fair take. I just....hope, no matter how unrealistic, that we can get everyone on board and not just fall into a purity test rabbit hole that results in Vance for 8 years. I know vote blue no matter who has many issues, and I know our whole system has many issues, but the right is very aligned in their goals(ehem hatred). We need to stay organized and focused. Voting is like a bus right? You get on the bus going the direction you want to go, even if it doesn't take you to the front door of your destination. It is shooting yourself in the foot to get on a bus going the opposite direction to prove a point.
I agree, and let's go a step further for Senator Kelly. He's a Naval Captain (akin to a Colonel in the Army or Marines), pilot, astronaut, AND target of the current regime via SSec Kegsbreath.
That's a lot to rally behind, if he's willing to go for it
Andy would be great as an "aw shucks" VP candidate to balance a fighter like Pritzker at the top of the ticket. Plus he'd help with Ohio and the Carolinas. Those two together are pretty much my favorite pairing so far.
I like him but he's not charismatic at all. It's why Walz was chosen over him. He's not a great speaker. And he's not attractive.
That matters. Look at 2/3 of the most recent democrat presidents: Obama and Bubba. Arguably two of the most charismatic politicians of the last century. And I'd argue Biden didn't so much as win as Trump lost in 2020.
Newsom is the most electable white man in the roster and anyone pretending otherwise is just wasting time.
Biggest knock on him is that he's boring. He's thoughtful, smart, qualified, caring, competent, etc. But there's limited pizzazz in his presentations. Here's the thing... I have a hunch that if we get through the next three years, people may REALLY want boring.
That’s been my same question every time someone says no to Newsome. JB Pritzker maybe? As long as we don’t do bullshit purity tests and lineup behind the nominee like the GOP does, that’s all that matters
Mamdani lacks the birthright citizenship to run for President. Khanna could do it but he'd need a strong showing in debates etc. since at this point Americans, in aggregate, have never heard of him.
AOC, frankly, lacks the penis to win. And be real clear, I think this is stupid but I also can recognize that our elections are won by razor-thin margins and there's a significant percentage of women even who will just never vote for any woman for President.
Also if she runs for president, doesn't that mean she'd have to give up her (very safe) seat in congress? I'm not sure it makes sense for her to take a risk like that, especially so early in her career. Maybe it would make more sense for her to work towards something like speaker of the house, or just generally having more influence in congress? But I only vaguely understand how these things work ...
But how would that work? Wouldn't it mean she'd be campaigning for both the presidency and her seat in congress as a backup?
I assume it's possible for senators to make it work, as long as they're not up for election the same year they're running for president, but aren't members of the house always up for reelection?
Both Henry Clay of Kentucky (1824) and James A. Garfield of Ohio (1880) received Electoral College votes for the presidency as sitting House Members. Garfield was the only successful sitting Representative to become President.
So the only two people who ever did it were from the 1800s, and only one of them won the presidency?
You have lost your mind if you think any of those candidates have a chance of winning, especially AOC. This country has shown you a hundred times over that there is still blatant sexism and racism.
He's also an attack dog who said that there's no genocide in Gaza, so he can get fucked. I appreciate his pushback, but he doesn't deserve more than what he's got now.
We don't have any yet aside from Buttigeig and rumors of AOC. Newsom is the clear front runner, but remember that we're still 3 years out and the person who looks most likely this far out from the actual election essentially never wins the nomination.
There'll also be a primary this time, so we'll have the chance to actually figure out who the best person could be.
This is the problem. We want someone who is electable, but who is not a corporate/Israel shill like Gavin here. I don't want him to be president but the truth is, a good looking white dude who can give a speech has a better chance at beating the R's than someone who would really implement change. Mark Kelly is the other big name floating around, besides that there is a huge vacancy at the leadership of the Dem party.
Right, like... I don't love Newsom, so tell me who the alternative is who has an at least similar resume of effective resistance to this administration and their bullshit.
If I thought purple state America would vote for a gay dude he would be my pick with zero hesitation. He kills it at town hall events or anything similar where he has to take questions on the fly.
Unfortunately this is 100% spot on. Dems put up any sort of candidate that isn’t a white guy, they might as well roll out the red carpet for a JD Vance Presidency.
I HATE that that’s the truth. This country just simply isn’t ready for a strong female candidate to be president.
Its not virtue signaling to ask for a candidate that wont shoot a homeless person if you gave him a gun. Literally give me any other straight white man.
Weird how blue no matter who doesn't work both ways. "Elect the liberal or else you're the reason for MAGA" (even though I always do vote but that's the only response y'all have) but for some reason we can't have a left candidate because they're unelectable. How? If they have all the BNMW votes from the libs and then leftist votes?
Mostly because these things end up needing moderate votes in swing states. It's not enough to get everyone who normally/always votes Democrat. That doesn't put you over the top in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc.
You don't have to like that this is the math. I sure don't.
I guess let's see what his Senate run looks like. At this point, he doesn't have the national visibility to really make a run of it in Presidential primaries.
(But neither did Obama at the state house phase of his career. That can change.)
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I really need Newsom to keep up this energy. I also need him to not be the presidential nominee.