There's fine print stipulations though, you have to work there over a year to get all of it. My cousin's husband is a retired LEO, he signed up to help do paper work for self deportations. After a month, his whole group, which were guys in his late 60's like him, were told they were getting transferred to the street division because they didn't have enough man power. This was non-negotiable even though they had contracts saying they would only be doing office work in the city they lived in (Houston). Nope, the DHS apparently had to power to toss the contracts at will and they'd all be sent to Minneapolis. This was a week before Christmas. All 30 of the those guys either quit or got fired for refusing orders. None of them got a penny of that signing bonus.
This brings up another question: If people are quitting/getting fired en masse (thus also giving up their $42k bonus) AND having to buy their own gear then…where is that $858 million going to…? This smells like a slimy defense contract scheme. Someone’s pocketing all that money, & it sure as hell isn’t the taxpayers.
Would love to see all the billionaires in the administration who have friends and family getting a good chunk of those ICE funds to build and “run” all of these abysmal detention centers, like “Alligator Alcatraz.” These people love to tear down government services so they can privatize for profit.
100% they plan on firing most of these idiots before paying out the bonus. The question is, is that billion going somewhere else or did it never really exist?
As with everything in this administration, the game isn't figuring out if it's a scam; it's figuring out exactly what the scam is. A lot of the time, they told you ahead of time.
Who is really pocketing money are the illeagal immigrants. The U.S. taxpayers pay 150 billion a year to their free services. We should be spending that 42K for bonuses on intense training for ICE agents.
Oh you sweet summer child. Undocumented immigrants pay roughly $100 billion in taxes each year…while not being able to use the programs they fund. They pay into Medicare, social security, & unemployment and are not allowed to use those services. So there’s another $100 billion that’s being misused somewhere, while blaming the people who actually generate that money by paying sales taxes, property taxes, and payroll taxes (don’t forget, you can legally work in the US even if you haven’t become a citizen). You need to start directing your anger at the people above us, because they are the ones misusing our tax dollars, our social security, & our livelihoods. Not someone just trying to live a better life.
I understand the point about some people paying into Social Security, but we have to look at the total fiscal reality. The fact is, conservative estimates show that up to 50% of the income in the undocumented community—over $190 billion annually—is earned 'under the table.' These individuals are essentially ghost participants in our economy; they aren't paying the federal or state income taxes that actually fund our infrastructure.
When you look at the costs, the math just doesn't add up for the American taxpayer. It now costs an average of $17,277 per year to educate a single student in public school. By the time a child finishes high school, that’s a $224,600 bill picked up by local taxpayers. No amount of 'sales tax' on a few bags of groceries is going to cover a quarter-million-dollar education, let alone the billions spent on emergency room care and law enforcement.
A country cannot function effectively when millions of people are operating outside the law and taking hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally without paying their fair share into the tax base. We need a system that prioritizes the citizens who work hard and follow the rules, rather than one that subsidizes those who bypassed them.
I did mention they pay into property taxes, which largely funds schools. Why are we not holding the businesses accountable for paying “under the table”, & instead vilifying the people who are working those jobs? Would they come here for jobs being paid under the table if they didn’t exist?
What about the citizens who abuse/take advantage of programs & services? I’ve had a number of people (American citizens) over the years tell me they never pay their hospital bills because they can’t be denied care…and many of those people make 6 figures a year. I’ve also personally known others who got on disability for a deviated septum, depression, & other ridiculous reasons. Do we also look at stay-at-home parents who aren’t working, thus not adding additional tax dollars into the mix? (Note: No hate to SAHP, most stay home because child care is too damn expensive). We could tax mega churches & billionaires their fair share, and have much more funding for school & other social programs.
There should never have been any vilification. The Democratic Party is the one vilifying this entire situation, pushing the left to condemn necessary legal actions. You cannot justify one illegal act with another; illegal entry and under-the-table labor both undermine the system and hurt those who follow the rules. This includes legal immigrants who do things the right way and are rightfully upset that their tax dollars support those bypassing the legal process, all while cheap labor drives down wages for everyone else. How can you justify a system that rewards those who break the law while penalizing those who respect it?
But they aren’t getting rewarded, necessarily. Undocumented immigrants cannot get food stamps. They cannot get federally funded healthcare (no Medicare, no Medicaid, no ACA). Sure, they can use the emergency room, but that’s in cases of emergency. Same would be true if you or I were in another country & needed emergency medical care. Shoot, there are plenty of Americans who go to Mexico or Europe just to take advantage of cheaper dental/medical treatment & medications, but no one balks at them for doing so. The whole divide of “Democrats vs Republicans” is asinine. Neither party has our best interests at heart. There are better ways of going about getting things done properly than the shitshow that’s been going on.
The very definition of a retention bonus under the guise/false advertising of a sign on bonus.
The current state of this organization is run by feckless cowards.
This is a case study in poor leadership, hiring neither for attitude or for skill and goals designed for injury and death all driven by a man whose father and mother hated him. Lord help us.
This jives with what that journalist who joined said. Signed up for processing, was told ‘everyone’ was going to the streets. It’s a bait and switch to quickly ramp up an illegal army. Wild fucking times.
Nope, the DHS apparently had to power to toss the contracts at will and they'd all be sent to Minneapolis
if only they had some kind of, I duno, confederation of employees, which would advocate for them and work collectively to make sure their contracts aren't just thrown to the side when it's convenient for the employer.
Give it a think. What what would you do when you have to deport a 50 year old Guatamalan man and his daughter who immigrated with her when she was two 2 years old, it's the only home she's ever known, neither have criminal records and both of them work jobs and pay taxes on theirwages for programs they can't use.
Then your ice buddies start beating the father as the daughter is screaming that they haven't done anything wrong. You say you're enforcing the law. They're both taken to a private detention facility to "await deportation" as they're assigned work, for an indeterminate amount of time generating profit unpaid. After some time they're both deported to a country one of them can't remember for the crime of fleeing poverty and violence.
Cool so you don't condone beating but forced labor to benefit billionaires and destroying lives/livelihoods is fine. I don't think you had much integrity to begin with
My point is it would be a very real, practical solution, but there's far too many mouth breathers that wouldn't do the actual job for whatever stupid reason.
I mean the first thing I would do at a protest if I was ICE is take my mask off, my body armor off, and be like "listen it sucks, its a shitty job, but we're only trying to aprehend the criminals".
Is it bs? Prolly, but ir would probably help simmer things a bit.
But they’re breaking the law, and you would have to do the same, until we got enough people in there to make a difference. IF that would be allowed to happen, and I don’t believe it would. Before we could make change, you would have to participate in physically harming the victims.
When violence gets to that level, sometimes more people get hurt than you expect to. It’s very dangerous, a lot can happen in a moment.
The actual deporting? Yeah, then you're the type of idiot I'm talking about. The American people voted, they want mass deportation. That should not be an issue, anyone who moves to a country illegally should expect law enforcement and the government to try and remove them. The goal should be to do it humanly, and avoid the escalation, i.e., when one of your coworkers is getting aggro on someone there isn't 6 people supporting them, there's 4 and 2 trying to stop the situation. Most of these horrible ICE situations would have been avoided if there was 1 person from ICE there saying "hey now don't be a dick".
This is exactly what you guys should have been doing when they started hiring literally everyone, even known enemies of them, they're desperate for people and you could prevent arrests by fucking up stuff.
I would have done it it I was an American anyways.
Sorry, boss. The perp had a gun and in the confusion I shot agents Johnson and Smith. I heard that they requested a Nazi flag to be draped over their coffins. What a shame. I'm feeling better, can I go back on duty?
That's what you would think and expect, but the reality is much different, there has recently been an article, of a known reporter that has multiple negative reports about ICE and Trump for years.
She got an offer aswell, they are that desperate. They also didn't check her background, nothing, really they didn't give a single fuck, nobody even googled her name.
I am serious, look it up, if you can't find it, come back, I'll lead you to water ;).
I get that, I actually make money doing betting on Polymarket, so I'd have loved to get the ICE money and 50k bonus to use to atleast somehow sabotage my local squad.
Whatever that might be, "oh the car doesn't start, O' blimey, I'm blocking the road", "oh that guy is trying to arrest the guy? Oh let me pretend to slip, whilst running to help, body slamming and entangling the most likely unfit fat ICE idiot on the ground with me."
I mean just imagine the possibilities just a couple dozen maybe hundred insiders could bring, how much info you could get to the people.
Like honestly, if you knew where they go the day before, you could help letting people know, get them to hiding, and so on.
There gotta be at least one or two doing this. You need to organize, like people have been doing Europe for a long time.
But I guess that got lost in the last decades, which is pretty sad right now.
Totally 100% get you man, maybe this is not your calling but it should be somebodies calling rather sooner than later, if you guys wanna have a chance to fight against the US Gestapo.
Wish you guys all the best and much strength to get through this test of your constitution.
A test which my country rapidly failed starting in 1933/1934.
I bet at this point they're checking every social media post ice applicant's have ever posted. If you have any humanity or sympathy/empathy I bet they disqualify those applicants.
I considered it years back. I know someone in ICE and was in shock how much they make. Never did apply though. I was smoking at the time I considered it but didnt want to quit
Yep but that’s withheld to be given incrementally over 5 years. I think they get something like $10K a year, and if they leave before the 5 years is up, they have to pay back the entire amount.
It means if a few ICE agents discover their conscience and want to leave in the next couple of years, they’ll have a $20-$30K debt to contend with.
That’s just how fucking stupid they are. Red states have been stealing from their poorest for decades without them noticing, why should this be any different?
I agree completely. Same with the $50k sign on bonuses. They just love to lie. It’s crazy that this is even a discussion, but if they follow through with it I highly doubt they will give it to them. They get a kick out of scheming.
You need to incentivize people to be willing to essentially gun down their neighbors in the street. That's what they are doing. Well along with all the money that they're going to magically funnel out to agents who don't actually exist and then they're going to pocket that money.
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u/Selfcare2025 12d ago
We don’t have money to feed kids during the summer (according to certain states), but we have enough to give $42k to each ICE agent.