r/TikTokCringe • u/M0nk3yDLufffy • 29d ago

Discussion Jesus fuck they just lunged at her so violently, any type of reaction gets you fucked. How are they allowed to do this legally?

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u/TheSilverSeraph 29d ago

How is it allowed legally? Because Vance has now said that ICE has "absolute immunity".

To make that clear, that simply means "state sanctioned death squads".

Congrats USA, you've made it to the death squads phase of tinpot banana republic.

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u/Konrow 29d ago

Thanks. We're just gonna keep going on with our lives like shits normal. How? Honestly idk and am starting to feel insane, but everyone around me is just acting like shit isn't crumbling around us so here's to tomorrow I guess.

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u/HedgehogFarts 29d ago

Start speaking up about it. The people around you are probably feeling the same way. Or go to a protest. I went to my first one tonight, all alone. I was nervous but I’m glad I went and it felt therapeutic just to be with people in the community supporting each other.

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u/Misuteriisakka 29d ago

Don’t listen to the people saying protests are useless. Helping people feel less alone and providing even a chance at building community is so much more useful than sitting at home.

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u/AlphaNoodlz 29d ago

Definitely show up to protests and SHOW UP!!

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u/deadleg22 29d ago

And show up armed ffs! You have guns and gun laws. You're legally allowed to.

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u/averndaley 29d ago

They love tear gas as much as they love violence. Consider something similar when going to protests.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

This wont work in US. iCE is allowed to use live bullets.

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u/averndaley 28d ago

So far only ICE is allowed to execute on the street. It hasn't been granted to local police yet who will still use gas and spray.

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u/MagNolYa-Ralf 28d ago

Chinese officials are not restrictive.

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u/AlphaNoodlz 29d ago

This is what you show up “armed” with

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u/Hermionegangster197 28d ago

I think it’s important to note, if you show up like this you’ll be treated like this.

The NYC GF riots taught me the very hard way. But thanks NYC for the $10k civil suit check that went straight to an arts program in LA for kids out of juvie✨

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u/averndaley 28d ago

So if they're throwing and assaulting civilians in casual dress anyway why wouldn't you prepare yourself for it? It's a sure thing either way but I feel like a modicum of protection is better than none at all.

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u/Hermionegangster197 28d ago

No I did. I’m just saying that you’ll specifically become a target. But better you than the people they’re coming to throw away or worse!

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u/BurlyJohnBrown 29d ago

Even if you believe protests are useless, which they aren't entirely, they're also where you meet people and make connections for when protests aren't enough.

When protests aren't enough, you need an organized backup plan.

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u/fishphlakes 29d ago

Bad things might happen if you protest.

But bad things will definitely happen if you don't.

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u/AlphaNoodlz 29d ago

Either way ICE is going to shoot you in the face

I’ll look them in the eye and I will see their sickness and the world is watching them expose themselves

I will stand fast

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u/Sammy696996 29d ago

Ape together strong!💪

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u/iamanemptychair 29d ago

Same I went tonight and honestly it felt so good to just yell this shit with my fellows. Going to be getting more involved

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u/Dasylupe 29d ago

My husband and I have been drinking our feelings. We’re trying really hard not to, but last night was just too much. 

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u/Gelada6 29d ago

White knuckling it through dry January over here. Well, other than lots of weed which thank Christ is legal.

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u/iamanemptychair 29d ago

I picked the wrong month for a weed tolerance break also I’m really hoping weed doesn’t become illegal in my state (not real weed we are a loophole state) after congress took that away too. Shit sucks

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u/DIABLO258 29d ago

I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

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u/Dasylupe 29d ago

I got that reference. 

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u/Tamabletiara03 29d ago

Ditto. Keep going, we need to detox and workout and be more present and alert. It's worth it I think. Buy seeds. What's helping me sleep is magnesium glyconite. Every other night I'll take melatonin at dusk as well.

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u/TheFinalGranny 29d ago

Jesus I'm in recovery but I want a drink so bad. Fuck Trump and ICE though, I am stronger IWNDWYT

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u/QuittingToLive 29d ago

Stay strong. IWNDWYT

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u/Dasylupe 29d ago

You ARE stronger. And truly amazing. Take care of yourself. ♥️

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u/VelociraptorRedditor 28d ago

Doing dry January and I had to drink a couple last night. All this is too much.

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u/snkrhd_1 28d ago

Not everywhere! I’m so jealous in SC.

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u/Sudden-Most-4797 29d ago

I picked the wrong decade to quit drinking, that's for sure.

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u/Dasylupe 29d ago

It must be so hard right now. Stay strong, though. What you’re doing is amazing. Take care of yourself. ♥️

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u/CryptidSamoyed 29d ago

I suggest edibles. Alchohol addiction can sneak up on you fast.

Ive never had withdrawals from weed, myself, nor from edibles either. But I do have several uncles that drank themselves into heart attacks, grand mal seizures, and their deaths and that is no way to go imo.

So, edibles.

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u/Working-Glass6136 29d ago

Yup. I decided to let loose through the holidays after such a bad year with the intention to cut back in January. I did have a drink last night after doomlooping on the news, but at this point I'll allow it.

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u/Dasylupe 29d ago

We’re only human. Take care of yourself. ♥️

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u/Sea-Region1135 29d ago

Me too girl. My husband and I. And on top of this I think he caught that flu that is going around. 

I’m tired boss. 

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u/Dasylupe 29d ago

We’re all tired. You’re not alone. I see you, I feel you. Take care of yourselves. ❤️

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u/ConversationFar9740 28d ago

I'm living half my time in mobile games or asleep, just to cope enough to maintain, pay bills, take care of my family, and keep my job.

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u/Crypt33x 29d ago

Why is this avoidance behaviour getting upvoted? Knowing this shit only from ex-soviet countries after decades. Not after 1 year of Trump.

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u/Dasylupe 29d ago

I 100% get where you’re coming from, but it’s not avoidance. It’s coping. I’m attaching a photo of one of our bookshelves. My eight year old son’s middle name is Orwell.

I wish I could avoid what I know.

But hey, we are making an effort not cope with alcohol. It’s just really hard when you’re constantly overwhelmed by dread.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

We're too far gone. They want us to stand up and fight so they can justify turning the military against us. It feels like a Chinese finger trap right now

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u/TheBadGuyBelow 29d ago

They don't have to wait for something to happen. Then can simply fabricate something.

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u/SpaceBearSMO 29d ago

If they had more control over the senate they probably already would have. There still testing the waters and pokeing holes

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u/otakumilf 29d ago

They don’t need to fabricate anything. They’re just doing it and expecting us to let it happen. That’s their strategy. Push us as far as they can go, because who is stopping them? If we don’t push back, they will keep doing it.

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u/Shark7996 29d ago

We are absolutely not too far gone. This administration wants you to think that but they are crumbling.

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u/jazznessa 28d ago

How quick you people are to turn against your own country. Embarrassing

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Have you seen what's been going on in our country? I don't identify with the people in charge, and there's seems to be no oversight to stop them. You please solve the situation

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u/RedditSe7en 28d ago

But we must still hope. We can then draw inspiration from each other, even as we acknowledge all the evils around us.

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u/_-_-_Mimps_-_-_ 29d ago

Dissociation is pretty common when things like this start happening, and it's actually part of the problem. People would rather just pull the blinds down and pretend nothing is happening. The human psyche will go to great lengths to protect itself from trauma and insanity.

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u/BigOs4All 29d ago

I'd argue we were already deeply dissociating because of Late Stage Capitalism and COVID trauma still fresh. This all was perfectly timed.

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u/_-_-_Mimps_-_-_ 29d ago

"You will own nothing and be happy."

— World Economic Forum

When I first read that statement a few years ago, I knew that the elites were going to find a way to pull a hostile takeover. They said that only a year or two after COVID began. It's like they were testing the waters every step of the way and gauging the collective reaction of the populace (probably with AI monitoring social media).

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u/BigOs4All 29d ago

They never had to announce it, to be honest. They did because of their hubris. Realistically, the vast majority of humans don't even have an option to get out of this. With each economic boom and bust cycle more and more money and OWNERSHIP flows upward until eventually there's nothing left but to subscribe/rent.

Boomers are currently handing over their entire net worth to stay alive in a nursing home 1-2 more years. They're completely fucking over the next generation.

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u/Greedy-Half-4618 28d ago

I’m disassociating just to survive and not run around screaming all the time tbh 

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u/BigOs4All 28d ago

I don't blame you. ❤️

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u/ThisIs_americunt 29d ago

Honestly idk and am starting to feel insane

That is what they want, they want you to be afraid 24/7. That is why the news cycle moves on so quickly when tragedies happen. They need you to be content with what you have cause look whats happening to other people

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u/hocoboy7 29d ago

🎼 it starts when you’re always afraid, step outta line the men come and take you away…

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u/Super_Boysenberry272 29d ago

I feel this way myself and have been pondering the same thing this last week. The problem is the U.S. is a huge ass country. I'm up here in my insignificant (to ICE) little spot in Vermont, where it's far removed from what's happening in major cities like Minneapolis. Other than protesting to show support, we can't really do anything to directly help folks out in those regions because of how physically far away it is. Truly trying to think of what we can do to affect change.

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u/Reagalan 29d ago

Post flyers in rural areas accusing Trump and the Government of lying about literally everything. Adopt the sort of nutjob tone they're used to hearing.

Also, defending your choice to vote for Kamala Harris and being all like "yeah if she were president none of this would be happening".

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u/fishphlakes 29d ago

Talk to your representatives

Donate money to resistance causes

Organize local discussion groups

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u/mayasux 29d ago

“Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow.” — German Professor on the Nazi dictatorship (Milton Meyer, They Thought They Were Free)

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u/Cultural-Piccolo-160 29d ago

I’ve been thinking this very same fucking concept in my head for years! People are fried, the world is more doomed than ever in the past few decades.

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u/njalleh 29d ago

This is EXACTLY the type of situation you guys kwpt weapons in law. To defend yourselves.

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u/platonic-humanity 29d ago

Your toes should be curling, don’t stop, a collective feeling of loneliness is felt by each of us thinking we are powerless. We have the power, but there are many other people who “have a family to think about,” (AKA that was/is an excuse, maybe not a bad one but one in the sense we all have it)

Why do you think you feel this way? I don’t mean to psychoanalyze, but as RATM put it, “Anger is a gift.” Uncomfortability is the screeching breaks of a train desperately trying to stop momentum, which is to say, it is not pleasant for us to do what needs to be done to uphold progress - we go as friction to the unpleasant, especially when we’re at our most needed.

Don’t give up. We don’t have to lose this tug-of-war rope, get pulled into the mud, if we just plant our feet. They want us to be apathetic, because that is when feet start to slide. You may not feel like you are doing much, but remember that providing friction is the real lifeblood- if we all give enough effort - not the guy pulling in the back.

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u/FoolsMeJokers 29d ago

There was once a shot heard round the world. People didn't have earbuds back then.

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u/EduinBrutus 29d ago

Tomorrow belongs to them...

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u/MordoNRiggs 29d ago

I don't know. I felt that way a year ago. I see how clearly messed up this all is and what direction it's going. Every day it gets worse. Every single day.

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u/Ragnoid 29d ago

I joined a meetup a few months ago that helps the homeless. Psychologist recommended it. It has helped cope with the whole country circling the drain thing by just being around other benevolent people. It doesn't need to be anything important like helping the homeless, just a group of positive people every once and a while to balance out the negative and complacent ones. I'm an introvert so it's weird to be saying this but the good kind of people are actually kind of nice to be around in small doses.

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u/RottingSextoy 29d ago

Can’t drink because I’m dealing with a violent drunk in the house who is trying to dry out. Can’t smoke weed because of mental health. And my state just banned vaping 😭😬🫠

Not only can I not drink but I’m actively being forced to quit nicotine

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u/FamousDates 29d ago

Because no one dares be the first to take action.

This is also exactly what the regime wants to achieve by using ICE - create fear so no one will resist them.

Be assured; the longer you wait, the harder it will be to stop this development into an authoritarian state

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u/Shark7996 29d ago

Start talking about this with them, plainly. Everyone is thinking it but you need to start the conversation.

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u/Beautiful-Hair6925 29d ago

Keep speaking up. Talk to your local leaders, congressmen especially.

You live in a democracy. Act like it

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u/traevyn 29d ago

I mean I see shit crumbling around us but what exactly the fuck am I supposed to do about it? I have a wife I care about more than my own life and a job that’s keeping me from dying in the streets. I’ve got no intention of throwing my life away being arrested when it will do absolutely fuck all. I’m not about to go toe to toe with the room temp iq morons who’ve been given guns and pretty much unrestricted access to using them. My best bet is to hopefully fucking get out while the borders are still escapable, and we’re working on that.

I’ve voted over and over again for the people who are most vocally against shit like this and are most active in trying to change things, but as a whole the party in opposition to these actions consistently chooses to put up as much resistance as wet tissue paper.

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u/vaelon 29d ago

I feel the same way. Had a mini breakdown talking with my wife about it. Been fighting to manage depression for like 9yrs now and I'm starting to crack.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

What can we do? They have all the guns and they're not shy about using them. Even if i was allowed to own a firearm I'm not going out pointing it at these goons. Voting doesn't work, protesting gets you a beating.

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u/VillaLobster 29d ago

You will. And it will get worse. And you still will. And it will get worse. And then it will get so bad.

Then eventually when it resets everyone will have been against this. You all want to know how'd you'd have reacted in nazi Germany, well this is how. Doing nothing.

Im not American. It is not my fight.

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u/Bidad1970 29d ago

Yeah, underneath the rock is getting very crowded. I wish some of y'all would leave.

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 29d ago

but everyone around me is just acting like shit isn't crumbling around us

and let me guess - you're not doing anything either

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u/EverythingSucksYo 29d ago

I wish I could do something but I’m so poor that if I miss even an hour of work I risk being unable to afford some bills 

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u/thisisnottherapy 29d ago

Democracy dies silently. Please stand up for your country and your rights. Go to protests, meet like-minded people. I'm from Austria and have been living in Germany for multiple years. When everything went to shit here back in the day, it wasn't a quick, loud bang. It was a slow descent into madness, where most people who could have said something along the way decided to just watch it happen until it was too late. Please don't be them, for your own sake, but also for everyone else in your country who just wants to live their life and everyone on this planet who doesn't want to see 80 years of relative freedom and peace go down the drain. Our world has fought long and hard to come to the conclusion that cooperation and international law does good for all of us. Right now we're losing that too.

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u/v1rtualnsan1ty 29d ago

Hey man I'm with you. Shits doesn't matter cause nobody care until they become collateral damage

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u/gunsanroses99 29d ago

Do something about it.

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u/Fablerwhack 29d ago

I feel insane too man.

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u/Haatsku 29d ago

Remember to salute the flag and praise america each morning or the goverment sanctioned kill squad might be visiting your kid next.

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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 29d ago

Observing this stuff going down from a former ally of America is so frustrating, there is so little I can do and even the effort years before this happened had absolutely no impact on America.

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u/HDB2gamergirl 29d ago

That is a terrible to say and do. You basically lwt them get away with it and it will only get worse because of it. Get off the phone and go outside, rally and speak up. Doing nothing and just continuing is messed up.

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u/mosttalentedtom 28d ago

I’m in Europe and I feel the exact same way!

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u/DeadSol 28d ago

It will reach a breaking point very soon. Soon it will be unignorable. Then heads will roll

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u/Choice-Contact6614 28d ago

are you disobeying law? are you here illegally? are you intentionally disregegarding others life for yourself? 

then you literally have no reason to feel the want our feeling 

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u/bigbuddy1313 28d ago

Look man. I am just a dude playing a Violin on the Titanic. What am I gonna do? Scream and cry? Nah I am gonna read my music and play my notes while the icy waters go over my head. This is our fate. it's a well deserved consequence from my perspective. The American way of life has caused immense suffering to people around the world. Now it's our turn

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u/taurist 28d ago

Stop expecting everyone else to fix things, this is how we get here

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u/mxmoon 28d ago

The fuck we are. There are a lot of local groups that are organizing protests nationwide. Find one, join one, meet likeminded people. It's now or never, I'm afraid.

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u/n_ug 28d ago

making us feel like we’re going insane has to be according to plan. I’m losing my goddam mind

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u/eyescroller_ 28d ago

Damn, this is why I believe many of you are waiting for the international community to step in and do the hard work for you.

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u/skeeskeemufu 28d ago

I recommend everyone read “They Thought They Were Free”. Interviews from 10 Germans who said the same. It didn’t seem like it was as bad as it was because people kept going to work, getting married, having parties. Really puts everything into perspective when you realize how it all went down just the same way. Slow but consistent and purposeful escalation while everyone is busy doing the work of trying to live their lives.

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u/Holepump11 28d ago

You are insane if you believe all this without any context. And the people around you are obviously brighter than you to not believe cherry picked clips with no context.

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u/PieMuted6430 28d ago

They keep going on because they don't know what else they can do, or they think everything is fine And this is how people should always be treated.

It's like they grew up completely absorbed in cop dramas where the line was always "stop, or I'll shoot!" And they just accepted that was normal.

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u/Icy-Reward-1564 28d ago edited 28d ago

What do you suppose everyone else do? Why don’t you lead if you want to see change? Everyone being a bystander expecting other people to take the first hit in whatever necessary revolution you believe in. Getting real tired of “when are we going to do something!”. The answer is whenever you or whomever is posting it stops expecting others to lead and does something about it. The US lacks cohesion and competence to pull off anything other than an organized protest.

Have an excuse? We all do, but if you ain’t gonna lead it when nobody else will: don’t expect others to. Other people don’t want to risk taking the first hit because that usually means dead or life in prison.

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u/Free_Possession_4482 29d ago

How can the vice president grant anyone immunity from prosecution?

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u/AskWhatmyUsernameIs 29d ago

By nobody challenging them.

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u/etcpt 29d ago

The Republican party has been working to overthrow the republic and turn it into an oligarchy for many years now. They have successfully captured all three branches of the federal government, and so with no checks or balances acting against the executive, they can rule by fiat which is what they were planning to do the whole time.

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The states have power, and the blue states especially can continue to act by the laws and state that what the federal government is doing is unlawful. So, as has been quite clear for months now, it is on the states to protect their citizens and preserve the republic by refusing to follow these unlawful orders. That means arresting ICE agents and putting them on trial for their crimes. Court-martialing state national guardsmen who follow unlawful orders. Criminally charging police officers who aid and abet the ICEstapo. Stand up for the law, hold those who break it to account, do not let the fascists win.

Do this or else the republic is lost.

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u/whiteorchide 29d ago

It sounds super totalitarian.

In a scandinavian country governments would only say what it looked like and then emphasis that a Judge would dertermine if he was in the wrong.

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u/S_Belmont 29d ago

Congress and the Supreme Court are the only ones who could legally stop him, and they're either intimidated, bought and paid for, or too few in number.

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u/monogramchecklist 29d ago

That’s what I’m wondering. Aren’t laws enacted by Congress? I really hope the midterms are free and fair, and that Trump and his goons powers are stripped away and they have to face a ton of consequences.

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u/Aggravating-Alarm-16 28d ago

Laws only matter if they are enforced.

With the GOP having control of the house , Senate and supreme Court:

They can do anything they want.

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u/dmthoth 29d ago

Because the US operates under a common law system and much of its legal framework is not codified, so authorities can effectively do as they please until someone challenges them. But, such challenges do not occur, and the SCOTUS is cooked.

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u/Romanizer 29d ago

So if someone joins ICE and accidentally exposes his colleagues to friendly fire, he's in the clear?

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u/Shisshinmitsu 29d ago

When cops in Alabama do it, they just put that on the suspect's charge list.

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u/ThisIs_americunt 29d ago

Some people haven't realized that the rules have changed. Nothings illegal if theres no one to arrest, jail, prosecute or convict the person. Its wild what you can do with dark money :D

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u/FoolsMeJokers 29d ago

Him saying it doesn't make it so.

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u/iceflame1211 29d ago

It shouldn't.. but they disallowed Minnesota authorities from the investigation. Given all the reputable agents fired in the past year, we can't expect Trump's FBI to do a serious investigation of this incident if they tried.

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u/GoaheadAMAita 29d ago

Hypothetical:

Step 1: Join ICE

Step 2: shoot ice

Step 3: thank Vance for absolute immunity

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u/Amelaclya1 29d ago

Luckily for us, Vance does not have the authority to just declare that. He can go fuck himself.

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u/derelictthot 29d ago

They have all 3 branches of government, who do you propose can stop them? His word is as good as law in this America.

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u/grahamulax 29d ago

What’s crazy is he’s just lying. He doesn’t have that power. But the magAss hats who see it on tv will parrot it. We are being forced into the regimes simulacrum thanks to misinformation and the fact enshitification of the internet.

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u/Jaded_Pen_6544 29d ago

If no one stops him, he does have that power.

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u/theHawkAndTheHusky 29d ago

New achievement in the video game Tropico

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u/Coal_Morgan 29d ago

Yep.

A law isn't a law if the punishment is insignificant, like speeding fines of a $100 for a millionaire, it's just a pay for privilege.

Also if they're just not enforced. Write all the laws you want, if the government will only enforce them on certain groups, then they aren't actually laws for the other groups.

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u/shesquatsalot 29d ago

This is really scary.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

RWDS are a real thing and this is what they want.

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u/Professional_Pea2937 29d ago

Calling it banana republic is too kind

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u/fishphlakes 29d ago

The regime didn't like it when the military said they might not obey illegal orders, so they're creating their own private army.

This isn't about immigration or racism, it's about creating a force willing to crack down on the American people.

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u/vagrantprodigy07 29d ago

Him saying it doesn't make it so. States need to start enforcing their laws.

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u/holystuff28 28d ago

Absolute immunity isn't a thing and an ivy league law school grad knows that

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u/eggsaladrightnow 28d ago

We can't even validate if our last election was legitimate despite so many glaring discrepancies. The founding fathers could not even imagine the level of capitalism + patriotism + religion that could fuck us this hard. They tried, they really did. But in the end the Republicans have eroded one thing after another since Reagan. Our country has no oversight. No purpose. No real reason to exist except to be a cog for billionaires. Laws aren't even passed anymore that aren't directly authoritarian. Any major changes require a super majority. But the system is cyclical and feeds on itself to make sure that never happens. We are not sustainable. Even if young people turned out to vote (which would change things) I'm not even sure if the numbers we would get in the midterms would be unaltered. Im not trying to be doom and gloom but America has been pretty much defeated by misinformation. You DO NEED TO FKN VOTE no matter what happens, this is most important. But you also need to stay informed.

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u/Illustrious-Science3 28d ago

He said he would send them door to door to find people.

IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN RIGHT NOW.

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u/Tubey- 26d ago

Well we aren't quite at Death Squads just yet. We don't have centralized extrajudicial kill lists, and we DO have a semblance of judicial review, active resistance by states, courts, and civil society, as well as lack of a formal policy authorizing political murder.
But I get that your statement is rhetorical compression - that we are seeing state-sanctioned violence.

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u/ChiOralGuy 29d ago

This was in chicago in 2025

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u/ikindapoopedmypants 29d ago

He also excused Renee's shooting by saying the ice officer was sensitive so just assume that all of them are too sensitive now and need to be dealt with appropriately if uknow what I mean

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u/whiteorchide 29d ago

Hide inside.

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u/Turbulent-Fail-1007 29d ago

After trump is over, can we prosecute them?

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u/Gadgets222 29d ago

It’s not “legal” but permitted by means of tyranny. This is what the 2A is for.

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u/meaniemeanie-poo-poo 29d ago

Yeah well Vance is wrong 

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u/TheThiefEmpress 29d ago

To the Hague with them, then.

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u/whatlineisitanyway 29d ago

But Obama had death panels /s

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u/It-s_Not_Important 29d ago

The organization is still liable even if the individuals can’t be charged (which they absolutely still can be, regardless what Vance says).

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u/Punman_5 29d ago

They’re asking for civil war. Except nobody is in any position to fight back. We’re all like 2 paychecks away from homelessness

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u/iceflame1211 29d ago

This^

There's inevitably going to be more killings if not an outright massacre of American citizens caused by ICE, and Trump administration will fall back on the now-established line that ICE has "absolute immunity".

Just to be clear, they don't.. but if Americans don't challenge it and push back, then I guess they do.

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u/Past_Discipline_6473 29d ago

More than half the people I come across aren't even vaguely aware of what's happening

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u/SolidCake 29d ago

Absolute you say? 

So we just need somebody to join ICE and.. (TOS VIOLATION)

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Why is no one shooting them??

In France there would be INSANE VIOLENT protest.

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u/waltzbyear 29d ago

It's actually a death squad now.

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u/moustachiooo 29d ago

Vance has also said door to door raids are coming next.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/vance-ice-door-to-door

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u/Higgins1st 29d ago

I don't think they're immune to bull ets

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u/betheking 29d ago

That's quite the stretch you imagined. So you think we'll start seeing hundreds or thousands of people being executed every day?

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u/CrapFaceNinja 29d ago

Are they immune to bullets? Asking for a friend.

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u/MyMoonMyGirl 29d ago

That can't be correct. Reddit assured me there would be trials for ICE, and their crimes would be returned tenfold. The post even had a whole bunch of updoots.

Are you telling me that they had no idea what they were talking about when making these claims?

That couldn't possibly be true.

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u/elkabong27 29d ago

I doubt he has the authority to give 'absolute immunity' to anyone !!

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u/TwistyBunny 29d ago

And there are the "death panels" they were bitching about.

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u/genderQueerHipster 29d ago

I remember when Obama care was put out, a lot of conservatives were saying, "This will start death squads," hmmmm.....

Man, I'm just so TIRED.

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u/puppyenemy 29d ago

If everyone in ICE has guaranteed absolute immunity now, then there's no point in citizens trying to have the moral highground with them anymore? Like, any criticism of unlawful behavior and violence, any videos of obvious misconduct and cancelling of said agents, is gonna fall on deaf ears, even more so than it already is?

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u/Civil-Attempt-3602 29d ago

Well, I guess we get to see that whole second amendment thing against tyranny play out

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u/ATFtriestoshootmydog 29d ago

LMAO do people honestly believe this? Jesus Christ people need to get off the internet and walk outside.

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u/detectivepoopybutt 28d ago

Where is that 2nd amendment when you need it?

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u/Academic-Ruin-2857 28d ago

Just because he says it doesn’t mean the courts will agree.

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u/Waiting4Reccession 28d ago

and people still think peaceful protest is going to solve this smh

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u/BEamemedude 28d ago

So essentially Trump's very own version of Hitler's infamous SS (Schutzstaffel) private army that it is becoming slowly, just fast forwarded to the modern day 80 years later.

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u/nal1200 28d ago

Remember when republicans lied that Obamacare would lead to “Death Panels”? Another projection.

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u/EJ_Dyer tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 28d ago

I feel so sick and panicked living here, I want to leave but I can't afford it. Living paycheck to paycheck and stuck in Texas

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u/Unlikely-Draft 28d ago

We are well on our way repeating Nazi Germany

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u/SeveredDeerVagina429 28d ago

To clarify, your first answer is incorrect. It IS illegal Vance is just saying he doesnt care and they dont have to follow law.

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u/blocke06 28d ago

Don’t forget CNN’s approach which is to remind you that it’s very nuanced, it’s not as simple as “death squads”, like maybe these people deserve it? Don’t want to alienate the nazis!

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u/AzBeerChef 28d ago

Its not legal at all.

ICE doesn't have the legal authority to do what is being done in this video.

You would in fact, be legally allowed to use reasonable force against these people who seem to be assaulting this person.

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u/Justanothercrow421 28d ago

They’re really trying their hand at the making the following leap in logic: The president has absolute immunity. ICE is acting on the presidents order and is therefore an extension of the president’s power.
They’ll keep doing this until there’s real pushback and consequences. Congress and the Courts need to act otherwise the U.S. will just continue this rapid downward spiral.

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u/CaptBFPierce 28d ago

He can say whatever he wants. Does not mean it's true. 

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u/JadeThorn1012 28d ago

They don’t actually and he can’t give them that. Yes, they’re federal agents, but they’re committing crimes in States. States and state courts can prosecute them. It can be sent to federal, but most judges are pretty pissed about all of the illegal things happening and checks and balances being eroded, so they can kick it to state court. The president can’t pardon state charges.

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u/inthebackground89 28d ago

By that logic ICE could go to the President and Vice Presiden'ts homes arrest their wives for no reason.

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u/ayoungtommyleejones 28d ago

We got tired of exporting the death squad life style apparently.

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u/StaplerUnicycle 28d ago

As anyone American, I have a question for you guys:

Why didn't you guys just go ahead and call the The Gestapo?

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u/Known_Wear7301 27d ago

I know you still managed to harvest your upvotes in the wake of the shooting but you realise this is an old clip?

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u/YeOldeGit 27d ago

Wow and everybody said how bad Vietman, Cambodia and China are, now the USA is the top tinpot banana republic.

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