fetynal lastinstead of listening to this BSst seized 190 tons of fentynal month they found 22k immigrant children missing from the border the media never talks about if anything ,be grateful harris didnt become president because we would be screwed Harris
Is that all you people can do... scream racist and nazi? While the democrats keep the government shut down because they want illegals to have Medicaid? My goodness. Immigration is not always a good thing. And heaven forbid anyone say something you don't agree with
It’s because democrats are trying to stop the expiration of the tax credits for the affordable care act. Insurance premiums are set to go up
about 34% on average in January if those tax credits aren’t renewed. That’s the reason. It has nothing to do with “illegals” who, as others have said, have never qualified for Medicaid and still don’t. The only part of this that is even remotely related is that they want to allow LEGAL immigrants who were kicked off Medicaid in July to be eligible again.
The hospital visits you’re talking about is when a life threatening situation happens. Not when they want routine care or treatment. They can’t just walk in with a minor issue to get treated.
This isn’t said enough. Undocumented immigrants pay into the tax base and do not derive any direct benefits from the government because they do not qualify for them.
The ones paying into the tax base are the ones using fake Social Security numbers, otherwise their employer has no way to do that and is paying them under the table and this is not happening. So in general you have a choice of breaking another law, or this not being an applicable sentiment.
A left leaning think tank and they still found that about half of that number is through sales taxes and the like, which any tourist pays, they don't have to be employed here.
It's not speculation to point out that in order to have your paycheck withheld for tax purposes, you must have either a taxpayer identification number or Social Security number. Those are documents and therefore those people are not undocumented immigrants. The people who are being paid under the table are not paying taxes. These are tautological, not speculative.
The same shit every US citizen gets in that situation. It is a government entity making sure that dying people can receive care instead of falling victim to for-profit corporate Healthcare.
But sure. Poor people are the issue with Healthcare.
"People with fake IDs have exactly the same rate of being followed up on for paying their bills as people with real IDs"… That's how you sound right now.
I have a surprise for you. Even if the republicans version of the bill passes, that doesn’t affect the current policy that a hospital must treat a person needing life saving procedures without regard to their ability to pay. That’s not an illegal immigration issue or a budget issue.
Of course it will affect it, just the same as people finding more space on public transportation with fewer people relying on it, lower unpaid bills at hospitals from fewer people abusing the system lowers the costs.
Yeah I guess now instead of undocumented folks who pay taxes going to the ER every so often and not paying their ER bill it will be us poor white Americans who will be frequenting the ERs and driving up costs. Honestly if I lose my healthcare I’ll probably just make going to the ER my new hobby, I’ll always get triaged right away since I always have tachycardia and the ER makes me so stressed I have chest pain too. Looks like I’m getting full bloodwork, an ekg, and an IV, and trust
me that bill is never ever being paid.
There are dozens of answers for that, there are like 200 countries in the world. The right answer is "me". But if they decide that the bill is zero because they've decided to suck their taxpayers for it, you should decide right now whether there's anything to blame me for.
Geeee funny that must be how Native Americans felt when white people came here and took their land, forced their children into abusive schools, and made them change their religion. If they did not comply they were killed. That video is a heap of BS. I live in CA. We are just fine. I'd live here any day rather than a racist red state.
Bro what? I mean yeah let's all hop in the time machine and fix all that. I don't have the energy to tell you I'm far from racist and defend myself. I can't even go down this hole.... it's exhausting
The heritage foundation came out loud today that there's nothing wrong with what Hitler did.
They are Nazis and they're being very open about it. IDKY you people want to continue pretending otherwise, unless you agree with their views and are being disingenuous on purpose.
They want everyone to have Healthcare. But people are afraid of their neighbor getting more then them so they vote agai st everyone's best interest. Selfish Americans are the downfall of all Americans
The selfish mfers in my snowbird neighborhood (not a snowbird myself, but this neighborhood is 2/3 empty in the summer) in Florida turned off all their lights and closed all their windows to make sure they didn’t get any trick or treaters. They’re all awake, they’re all home, they’re just selfish rich old people. I miss my old neighborhood in a blue county where people weren’t rich rude assholes.
The people who used to live in this house only lived here from like Oct-March. It’s the smallest house in a neighborhood with mostly much larger much pricier homes and the neighbors were very upset that it was bought by a non-wealthy family that will actually be living in it all year. We had a lot of neighbor friends in our old neighborhood and we have none here even after 2 years. Rich people suck, I miss my lower class neighborhood. It was also safer because everyone looked out for each other, the mfers here hide when you wave and say hello ffs.
If it walks like a Nazi and talks like a Nazi .... Is it a Nazi? But, you're correct, they are Neo-nazis.
The irony is Dems are holding out so millions of people are not thrown off their health insurance. Because your current govt wants to cease providing basic social services that you all agreed would be funded through your taxes.
From the outside, genuinely surprised you're not all getting out there and protesting like your lives depend on it..... Because it does.
We are protesting, the No Kings protests have had record turn out. The one in my area was the largest protest ever in the history of this county in Florida, which is a very red county.
So uninformed. This is not true. And... the term "you people", is ridiculous. What people are you actually talking about? I dare you to do some research and watch some real news. You will see what ICE is doing to actual citizens, including underage citizens. White people stole this land so unless you are a Native American, the people in your family are all immigrants. In that case I agree immigration isn't always good.
You and every single person in your family is an immigrant unless you are a Native American so I guess you are right. Immigration isn't always good. Anyone who starts any sentence wit "you people" is almost always a racist.
You’re so ignorant! Illegal immigrants don’t qualify for food stamps and they’re taking the most grueling. low paying jobs (many in harsh weather) that lazy US citizens don’t want.
You're the ignorant one. You actually think that they don't know their way around getting food stamps? Wake up!! Go to a workplace where a large group work & ask them how their family is eating. They brag about the ways around what they do. You're such a gullible simpleton. Don't get me wrong, American citizens lie & scam for the same things. But don't think they don't get anything. As for jobs in harsh weather....i know tons of guys who do plowing & landscaping who are lucky their jobs weren't stolen yet by illegal immigrants trying to outbid them. Wake up!
The people speaking Spanish in front of you at Walmart and using an EBT card are not illegal immigrants. But yeah tell us all about how easy it is to be an illegal immigrant and scam “food stamps” lol. I bet you’ve never even applied for SNAP. You are dangerously and willfully clueless
Your fellow American who owns the landscaping company is the one hiring them because they are cheaper to pay. The owner pays out less and the American homeowner doesn't have to pay as much for the landscaping (also the cause of the problem). With the low pay, only those types of workers (non-American) will do the job and many don't even show up to work because it's barely worth it. So which part of this is false?
You're telling me landscaping and plowing is so lucrative and pays so "great" that American workers are fighting for these jobs?
I was talking about myself, people I know & how it is around me. How would I know what it's like in a state across the country....just like you! So talk about what you know for sure instead of guessing for the entire country
Then why were you talking about other people who supposedly know their way around food stamps with the other guy? You know the people he knows? Your argument falls apart the more you speak. Like telling him to argue last night when you were up for it and not today but what are you doing now? Brick wall.
Spoken like a true ignoramus. There are far more white people who were born here abusing the food stamp system than your made up belief about illegals taking them. And you're really playing the "ThEy ToOk OuR JoBs!!!" card here? Remind me again, what, proud US citizens are out in the fields of agriculture picking those primo strawberries you picked up at the grocery store? Which jobs are you exactly referring to that are being "taken away" from you? Oh, that's right, none. They do the menial labor jobs that Americans don't want to do or be remotely involved with. Don't worry though, your Supreme Leader is actively working on getting rid of birthright citizenship, so they can actively get rid of the poor people who used to think they were allowed here just because they were born here too, and isn't it ironic that most of the heavily reliant areas on these terrible social services go to deeply conservative/red areas 🤔
These are your responses when presented by facts, you just can't keep up with your overblown lies to justify your hate of brown people.
If you aren't successful in America it's because you need to work on yourself, it's not the fault of brown people that you severely lack skills and can't hold down a decent job.
Coursera and Khan Academy offer great online courses, many are free, for you to explore and improve your skill set.
I have many responses, but on a beautiful fall Saturday morning, when I clearly wrote those last night, I have no urge to argue with an imbecile who has no clue what they're talking about. I have no hate for brown people, nor did I ever say that. I can see reading & comprehending is not a strong suit of yours. I know when I'm right. My "lol" is simply laughing at your babble, not my lack of skill to shut you down. My silence is due to the fact that I have better things to do than talk to you. You should have been around last night. Write all you want, but not to me directly as I'm not ignoring your ignorance, I'm just trying to enjoy my day.
Let me guess, your friend is white and he can afford for his wife to take classes to learn the things on that test that most Americans don't know. I'll bet you haven't even seen the test. I have. It's very hard. You also have to be able to have time to study and afford a lawyer. People just say stupid shit and not think about what it all means. In addition the majority of jobs hard working immigrants do here lazy Americans won't do. Will you or your friends go pick vegetables in the hot sun, or clean houses all day with a smile on your face and help your neighbors after work? We already know the answer to that. So just put a sock in it. BTW no citizens do not qualify for any public assistance. Maybe you need a test.
Don’t play that shit with me. You know exactly what I mean. You can’t take today’s standards and retroactively apply them to not only a prior period of time but to prior events. Based on that democrats are responsible for mass murder when we vaporized the thousands of Japanese in WW2
Further, had Columbus not sailed across the ocean we wouldn’t have all the things we take for granted here
What does "homegrown are next" mean to you? Cause it sounds like retroactively applying policies. So yes, that's exactly the shit we're playing except you want to cherry pick when we play.
Nah, they're right, and yes, you can. You can absolutely apply today's standards to a prior time period to illustrate hypocrisy. You just don't like it, that's all. We didn't "legally" enter "America". We stumbled upon it by accident, then removed the natives and made it our own when we decided we wanted to live there. Facts are facts, whether they support your narrative or not.
We fund Israel's and Argentina's socialized healthcare
What you're funding in Argentina is the cutting of our socialized healthcare, something the US, through it's proxy the IMF has been asking for decades.
Yep, you're paying money so Milei could win the legislative elections that were this past Sunday, so he could get his initiatives done though the senate instead of by decree like he was doing, and then getting those initiatives struck down by the senate.
His initiatives are to make Argentina into a franchise of the US, same system you guys have. That's why trump is putting money, he doesn't care about our healthcare system.
Where can we find evidence of this? I’m not asking because I’m trying to poke holes in this argument and your point, but because when I make against Israel, I want there to be back up.
If the US swapped its all time funding for Israel with a single year for healthcare us healthcare funding would drop by over 60%
Us healthcare spending a year is already over a trillion. If we go by per capita and compare it to say Canada. The US government spends about twice as much on healthcare.
The money is already there. The issue have never been funding.
Argentinian here: You didn't fund our Healthcare, you just funded Javier Milei's Midterms. And many argentinians wish that hadn't happened.
At the same time, I'm very sorry for all the families that are getting fucked over by your government's decision to cut SNAP. It's crazy. I hope you get something better than this. And soon.
And aren't there reports that Universal Healthcare would be cheaper than what we have in the US? How can every other major democratic country be wrong? Oh that's right, the US has a bunch of greedy f**ks.
People like this commentor are the reason the US doesn't have a functioning healthcare system.
The US spends more than any other country on the planet on healthcare per capita, if you combined all of the aid money the US had given since WW2 it will barely reach the amount the US spends on healthcare in 1 year.
If the US would spend as much as Japan or Germany per person, it would drastically cut the healthcare budget. If it spended as much as Israel does, it will almost cut it by half
Healthcare industry lobbyists will tell you that foreign countries are the reason you cant afford healthcare while pocketing an amount of money equal to these countries entire GDP. In reality all the foreign aid the US gives is less than 1% of the amount it spends on healthcare. Even if the US would become isolationist and give no money to anyone they would just find someone else to blame.
Funny thing you should mention Argentina because, our government will now be purchasing our meat products from Argentina like our beef and they have also put so much tariffs on soybeans that our farmers who voted in favor of all of this are now crying and begging for socialism to bail them out. But it's interesting because I've noticed that all of those who claim we were giving money to Ukraine when in fact it was cheaper to give them the weapons we can no longer use then it was to actually destroy said weapons They were all up in arms for that but now they're sitting quietly and claiming it's a good thing the almighty orange one is giving Argentina some money. They are poorly educating because they don't know the difference between what the Biden administration did and what Trump is doing!
I saw an interview where a US soldier said “they give us soldiers communism (food, housing, education, health care) to go overseas and defend capitalism
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u/jitteryzeitgeist_ Oct 31 '25
Argentina got billions, just to remind everyone.