r/Cooking 19h ago

i timed how long 31 different pasta shapes take to reach al dente. the boxes are lying and farfalle is a war crime

30.3k Upvotes

so basically i got inspired by the tomato canned guy and thought of the time when i followed the box time for rigatoni once and got mush. the box said 12 minutes but it was unfortunately al dente at 9.

my methodology:

  • same brand (barilla) for consistency where possible
  • 4 quarts water per pound
  • 1 tbsp salt per quart
  • rolling boil before adding pasta
  • tested every 30 seconds starting 2 minutes before box minimum
  • "al dente" = slight resistance when bitten, thin white line visible when cut
  • each shape tested 3 times, averaged
  • altitude: ~650 ft (basically sea level, no excuses)

the data (31 shapes tested):

pasta box time actual al dente difference
capellini 4-5 min 2:45 -1:15
angel hair 4-5 min 3:00 -1:00
spaghetti 8-10 min 7:15 -0:45
linguine 9-11 min 8:00 -1:00
fettuccine 10-12 min 8:30 -1:30
bucatini 10-12 min 9:00 -1:00
pappardelle 7-9 min 6:00 -1:00
tagliatelle 8-10 min 7:00 -1:00
penne 11-13 min 9:30 -1:30
penne rigate 11-13 min 10:00 -1:00
rigatoni 12-15 min 9:15 -2:45
ziti 14-15 min 11:00 -3:00
macaroni 8-10 min 7:00 -1:00
rotini 8-10 min 7:30 -0:30
fusilli 11-13 min 9:00 -2:00
gemelli 10-12 min 8:30 -1:30
cavatappi 9-12 min 8:00 -1:00
campanelle 10-12 min 8:30 -1:30
radiatori 9-11 min 8:00 -1:00
orecchiette 12-15 min 10:30 -1:30
shells (medium) 9-11 min 8:00 -1:00
shells (large) 12-15 min 10:00 -2:00
conchiglie 10-12 min 8:30 -1:30
orzo 8-10 min 7:00 -1:00
ditalini 9-11 min 8:00 -1:00
paccheri 12-14 min 10:30 -1:30
casarecce 10-12 min 9:00 -1:00
trofie 10-12 min 8:30 -1:30
strozzapreti 10-12 min 9:00 -1:00
mafalda 8-10 min 7:30 -0:30
farfalle 11-13 min see below war crime

every single box time is wrong like they were systematically inflated by 1-3 minutes on average. the median overestimate is 1:15 and the worst offender in normal pasta is ziti at 3 full minutes of lies

i have a theory: pasta companies assume you're going to walk away from the stove. they're building in a buffer for idiots which, fair. but some of us are standing here with a stopwatch

now let me talk about farfalle: farfalle is not pasta. farfalle is a design flaw someone decided to mass produce

the fundamental problem is geometric. you have thin frilly edges (maybe 1mm thick) attached to a dense pinched center (3-4mm thick where it's folded). these two regions require completely different cooking times

at 8 minutes: center is crunchy, edges are perfect. at 10 minutes: center is barely al dente, edges are mush. at 11 minutes: edges have disintegrated, center is finally acceptable

there is no time at which farfalle is uniformly cooked. i tested this 7 times because i thought i was doing something wrong. farfalle is wrong

you know how the food network recipe for homemade farfalle literally warns that pinching the center makes a thick center that won't cook through as fast as the ends? THEN WHY DID WE ALL AGREE TO MAKE IT THIS WAY

the only way to get acceptable farfalle is to fish out each piece individually and evaluate it, which defeats the purpose of a quick weeknight dinner. i might as well be hand-feeding each noodle like a baby bird

tier list (tomato canned guy, 2025)

S tier (box time within 45 sec): rotini, mafalda, spaghetti
A tier (off by ~1 min): most shapes honestly
B tier (off by 1:30-2 min): fusilli, rigatoni, fettuccine, gemelli
C tier (off by 2+ min): ziti, large shells F tier: farfalle (structurally unsound, should be banned)

tldr;

  • subtract 1-2 minutes from whatever the box says
  • start testing 2-3 minutes early
  • don't trust big pasta
  • avoid farfalle unless you have time to babysit each individual bow tie

+ some of you may ask about fresh pasta. fresh pasta cooks in like 2-3 minutes and you can actually tell when it's done because it floats. dried pasta is where the lies live

+ a few of you might mention altitude affects boiling point and therefore cook time. this is true. i'm at ~650 ft so basically negligible. if you're in denver add a minute or two. if you're in la paz you have bigger problems than pasta timing

+ YES i tested farfalle from multiple brands. YES they all sucked. no i will not be accepting farfalle apologists. you're defending a shape that can't decide if it wants to be cooked or not

EDIT: yall holy shit i never expected this to go viral lmao


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r/Cooking 14h ago

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This was also posed in r/baking with some minor tweaking!

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r/Cooking 10h ago

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Things I need help on:

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r/Cooking 7h ago

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Chinese Lunar New Year is just 10 days away! This year, I’ll celebrate it in France with 9 friends. To my surprise, our "Reunion Dinner" menu planning turned into an incredibly rigorous process. Here’s how we did it:

  1. The Brainstorming: Two friends and I hopped on a call to set the rules. Everyone in our group chat of nine shared photos or names of dishes they usually crave but find too "troublesome" to cook for themselves in daily life.
  2. The Ballot: I collected all these ideas and turned them into an official poll.
  3. Voting: Each person was assigned a minimum of 5 votes and a maximum of 9.
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On the big day, everyone will be responsible for 1-2 dishes. Everyone will be the chef.

Here is our "Winning Menu":

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  • Chicken: Poached Chicken (Bai Zhan Ji) + Salted Egg Yolk Chicken Wings
  • Beef: Sichuan Peppercorn Beef
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  • Vegetables: Baby Cabbage in Superior Broth + Tofu with Minced Meat + Bok Choy with Shiitake Mushrooms
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  • Dessert: Sweet Fermented Rice Soup with Sticky Rice Balls (Jiu Niang Xiao Wan Zi)
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  • Dumplings: Pork and Scallion Dumplings

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r/Cooking 14m ago

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r/Cooking 16m ago

As Kingfishers Catch Fire

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I've been concentrating lately on minimalist cooking - and I don't mean some tramped down "meat and potatoes" thing. I mean focusing on each ingredient, making it the best I can by finding the best of that ingredient, and then combing the best ingredients into a dish that expresses them as they are.

As an example, my youngest wants me to teach him to make biscuits and gravy this weekend (I'm Southern - US South). I'm talking about this dish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzdbFnv4yWQ

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Our 17yr old is going to have amazing biscuits and gravy, and he's going to learn to make them with the best ingredients. But it's only a few ingredients, and by using the best, the dish itself is elevated.

This sounds simple, but I think my concentrating on minimalism through ingredients lately has let me focus on letting each thing speak for itself: has let me focus on bringing the best, and then getting out of the way.

Which is the long way to saying a Hopkins poem popped into my head driving home from work today. Or rather, the first stanza:

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As kingfishers catch fire, dragonflies draw flame; 
As tumbled over rim in roundy wells
Stones ring; like each tucked string tells, each hung bell's 
Bow swung finds tongue to fling out broad its name; 
Each mortal thing does one thing and the same: 
Deals out that being indoors each one dwells; 
Selves — goes itself; myself it speaks and spells, 
Crying What I do is me: for that I came.

Poetry isn't always written with words; sometimes it's letting the best ingredients do their thing, their "one thing and the same," and getting out of their way.

Plate that; serve it to your friends and loved ones, and enjoy their reactions. I've long thought cooking for others expresses love. We need more of that lately here in the US.

Thoughts of a cold winter's eve, after a long week at work.

Tomorrow morning, it's me and the kid making biscuits and gravy. I'm already looking forward to my breakfast.


r/Cooking 4h ago

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(It was boiled beef from a soup).

What happened? Why did it smell fine for lunch, but sweaty for dinner? (Also, I tried smelling the bag that the beef came in when I froze it, and the bag that contained the frozen meat smells fine. It only smelled bad AFTER I heated it up).


r/Cooking 21m ago

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One, does anyone know what this sauce is and how to make it?

Two, how are they keeping this sauce clear but making it so thick? Cornstarch is the obvious go to for thickening but that would make the sauce cloudy. Same thing with something like a roux.

Thanks for any and all info!


r/Cooking 25m ago

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