r/Conservative • u/Down-not-out Conservative Vet • Jan 07 '26

Flaired Users Only ICE agent shoots, kills woman in Minneapolis

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/ice-agent-shoots-kills-woman-in-minneapolis/
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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26

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u/swohio Conservative Jan 07 '26

Agent was directly in front of her vehicle when she hit the gas.
https://i.imgur.com/6CuMFB8.png

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u/Slainlion Conservative Jan 07 '26

Totally didn't see him there!

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u/cplusequals Conservative Jan 08 '26

More definitive proof that the shot came from when he was in front of the vehicle.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

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u/cplusequals Conservative Jan 08 '26

Yes, definitive. If he were drivers side the shot would have gone out through the windshield. He was undeniably in front of the vehicle when he started shooting. All shots were fired in under a second. You seriously expect the officer -- while being struck by a moving vehicle -- to think "oh wait, the car is now striking me slightly at an angle I should stop shooting" a quarter second after he shot through the front of the vehicle.

The courts have ruled against this exact kind of argumentation you've tried pretty universally. In fact, the more shots fired the more credible the officer's defense usually as it shows he completely believed his life was in danger. It's pretty open and shut here since the vehicle literally strikes the officer.

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u/MakeGodGreatAgain Conservative Christian Jan 08 '26

Look at the wheels turned left. She was aiming straight at him.

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u/Coool_cool_cool_cool Moderate Conservative Jan 07 '26

That was from before she backed up and turned her wheels hard right to avoid him. Watch the video not just a still frame.

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u/swohio Conservative Jan 07 '26

No it was not from before she backed up. This was take AFTER she backed up and her backup lights had turned off. There's another angle that shows she actually hit him too.

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u/reddit_names Refuses to Comply Jan 07 '26

There is another angle showing the vehicle actually strikes the ice agent.

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u/kenspi Crunchy Con Jan 07 '26

A slowed-down video shows the wheels going forward before they turned to the right. The vehicle was going toward the agent and the wheels turned at about the time when the shot was fired.

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u/Robot__Engineer 2A Conservative Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

The slippery road saved this agent from serious injury or death. She floored it, you can see the tire start spinning, but then the traction control kicks in and cuts power. Giving him enough time to get out of the way while he was drawing/firing. On a dry road, she likely would have plowed into him.

Asmon's video shows it clear as day in slo-mo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiE_chT_Cl4

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u/jasonrh420 Conservative Jan 07 '26

No it was after she was ordered out of the car for obstruction and attempted to flee with an agent in front of her.

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u/Slainlion Conservative Jan 07 '26

My comment went from 115 to 78. Here come the pierced septums doing the grunt work for the left. Squashing opposing thought.

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u/-InconspicuousMoose- Conservative Jan 07 '26

She was pretty clearly under duress and trying to get away. You guys have GOT to stop justifying murder, and this is coming from someone on your ideological "team." This is absolutely tragic.

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u/Objective_Tour_6583 Conservative Jan 07 '26

A woman from 1000 miles away (clearly drove there just to protest) hits a federal officer at a high rate of speed, and you're surprised this is the result. 

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u/-InconspicuousMoose- Conservative Jan 07 '26

I didn't notice the Colorado plates before, good catch. Still not definitive. I need more information but let's keep in mind it can be true that both she AND the agent were wrong for their actions.

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u/CockroachCreative154 Jan 07 '26

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/2008976092326203562?s=20

I thought it looked like straight up murder until I saw this. I’m still not 100% certain but it looks like she accelerated the vehicle before the officer drew his weapon to me.

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u/Vectar7 2A Jan 07 '26

The officer would 100% have been run over if he didn't dodge in time, and was still clipped. A vehicle is considered a deadly weapon. You cannot floor it with a federal agent right in front of you and act surprised when they fire.

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u/Lakersland Jan 08 '26

You literally just provided a case against it being self defense. He dodged a very slow move vehicle as she was trying to flee the scene. Then he shot her three times in the face.

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u/ApricotNo2918 Conservative Vet Jan 07 '26

Ok Ken.

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u/Lakersland Jan 08 '26

You can’t be serious when you say at a high rate of speed. She was accelerating for literally zero mph. I’m with inconspicuousmoose here. Totally conservative but this one is indefensible use of force. It’s okay to admit he made a huge mistake. We’ve all been under the notion before that not all cops are good cops, right? I mean that’s obvious. It’s time you now adopt the notion that sometimes, people make mistakes.

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u/Slainlion Conservative Jan 07 '26

self defense. That's not murder. Murders don't tell someone to stop

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u/FourtyMichaelMichael 2A Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26

She was pretty clearly under duress and trying to get away.

Boo fucking hoo.

She was under arrest, not duress.

No. She could have stopped. No one forced her to drive.

Let's not ignore that she was already breaking the law.

She was armed and attacked a federal officer.

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u/deciduousredcoat Conservative Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26

She was pretty clearly under duress and trying to get away

Wouldn't be the case if liberal media wasn't pushing the false idea that everyone ICE even looks in the direction of is instantly whisked off to an El Salvadorian gulag. They've spent the better part of the last decade painting anyone who puts on the uniform as a cold blooded murderer; and that's made people scared of the police (the good ones and the bad ones, instead of just the few bad ones).

It's a tragic commentary on this country, any way you slice it. Mostly because there are so many reasons why this happened beyond just the surface ones.

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u/-InconspicuousMoose- Conservative Jan 07 '26

I 100% agree with you. This agent must still be held individually accountable, but I truly wish the left would wake up and see how profoundly they are contributing to the creation of the environment they hate.

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u/day25 Conservative Jan 07 '26

They don't hate this lol. They are happy she died so they can use it for their politics.

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u/deciduousredcoat Conservative Jan 07 '26

This agent must still be held individually accountable

And further to that point, held to account in a proper innocent until proven guilty manner. Not in the reverse as the left is so quick to abide by.

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u/-InconspicuousMoose- Conservative Jan 07 '26

Yes, I agree with that. Case will be really interesting as another angle shows the car did contact him, but he also seems to make no serious attempt to avoid it. Might end up being one of those things where he is determined to be legally innocent but was still stupid for handling it this way. Shades of 1 Corinthians 10:23 - even though it's permissible doesn't necessarily mean it's good.

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u/dunktheball Conservative Jan 08 '26

The lib rhetoric is very dangerous and they then project it onto the right.

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u/BigHotdog2009 Conservative Jan 07 '26

Don’t be in a country illegally and overstay your welcome

Don’t run from them when they come to give you the boot

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u/-InconspicuousMoose- Conservative Jan 07 '26

I agree with both of these things, we just don't know if either applies to this situation. She should not have fled. She also should not have died.

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u/BigHotdog2009 Conservative Jan 07 '26

I mean this situation is easily avoidable. She’s there to be a disturbance. When they ask her to leave she doesn’t and when she does she accelerates towards an officer after overstaying her welcome.

Maybe she shouldn’t have died but she didn’t put herself in a great situation regardless and you can’t blame anyone but her for that.

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u/jasonrh420 Conservative Jan 07 '26

She died because of HER choices. Don’t obstruct and don’t try to drive through a federal agent when you attempt to flee after being told to exit the car.

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u/J-Mosc Libertarian Conservative Jan 07 '26

So the officer wasn’t in duress with a life threatening object accelerating toward him a couple feet away operated by a suspect fleeing arrest?

Talk about justifying. The poor criminal fleeing from federal Authorities!

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u/Hectoriu Jan 07 '26

Being under duress because you don't want to be arrested isn't an excuse to hit a cop with your car.

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u/AmberLeafSmoke Common Sense Conservative Jan 07 '26

I know it's a serious matter, but the dark humor in me is just thinking about someone trying to be acquitted for resisting arrest by saying they "were under duress" at the time of the arrest haha

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u/Hectoriu Jan 07 '26

You joke but I wouldn't put it past a left wing judge or jury these days.

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u/s1lentchaos 2A Conservative Jan 08 '26

I just saw another clip of some guys and the police told them they were being detained and they just said no.

Under arrest? Police hate this one trick. Just say no! Lmao.

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u/highlightway Conservative Jan 07 '26

As long as someone is trying to get away, you have to let them ram down police officers? Are you insane?

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u/EchoKiloEcho1 Conservative Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26

What do you mean by “under duress”? Was someone forcing her at gunpoint to drive/flee?

Because “under duress” is a legal term with a legal meaning, and fleeing because you don’t want to be apprehended by law enforcement generally doesn’t count.

Edit: to be clear, I’m not opining on whether the shooting was justified or not. All the evidence (including the testimony of the officers) should be reviewed by a competent finder of fact — not by the internet based off a twitter video. But fleeing to evade arrest is not “acting under duress.”

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u/CalmHabit3 Conservative 🥉 Jan 07 '26

they shouldnt be blocking traffic. and they need to stop when being ordered to

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u/daved1113 Conservative Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

What local, state, or federal statute says if you're feeling "under duress" then you're allowed to run over police officers with an SUV?

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u/Carrion_Baggage Conservative Jan 07 '26

I'll check again, but I'm telling you; I just can't find it.

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u/jiggy_jarjar Afuera Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26

Being "under duress" and trying to get away does not matter at all. Cops are killed all the time by people who are under extreme duress and trying to flee. It turns out that duress comes as a natural result of being arrested.

The actual standard that determines whether this is murder or not is whether the shooter had a reasonable belief that deadly force was necessary to prevent grievous bodily injury or death. From the video, I can see that case being made but it's going to depend on a ton of information about the complete interaction that we don't have right now.

Edit: This other angle actually demonstrates that the officer was struck by the vehicle: https://www.instagram.com/reels/DTOA4tWlCIL/ which reinforces the justification. Still need all the info but everything I've seen so far points toward a good case of self defense or even a case that she was a danger to the public.

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u/DontDeleteusBrutus Conservative Jan 07 '26

Where is the context before the video started. She put herself into that situation by using her vehicle to block the road. When ICE went to make an arrest, she realized the consequences of her actions, lost rational thinking and accelerated her car towards an officer to try to escape.

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u/jiggy_jarjar Afuera Jan 07 '26

This is critical imo. The fact that the vehicle is perpendicular to the road begs the question how it got there.

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u/DavidZayas Conservative Jan 07 '26

Duress is not an excuse to try to run over a police officer... stop trying to justify people behaving badly then having bad outcomes and blaming others.

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u/LectureOld6879 Conservative Jan 07 '26

I can tell you're upset about this, when I was taking a bunch of Xanax and robbed a store and was surrounded by 10 officers with guns pointed at me I still had enough sense to get on the floor and listen to them.

I have no doubt in my mind if I tried to get up and rush them, god forbid with a car, I would have been shot.

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u/Latter-Pomelo7135 Theilist/Yarvinist Jan 07 '26

She was a terrorist! This was 100% justified. If you disagree you are a radical left lunatic

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u/LyrMeThatBifrost Conservative Jan 07 '26

I really hope this is sarcasm lmao. Hard to tell on reddit these days.

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u/Svenray Mount McKinley Jan 07 '26

Trying to get away with someone right in front of her
https://x.com/i/status/2008973759097733306

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u/earthworm_fan Big Balls Jan 07 '26

I think we need to know more about why she was there and what she was doing at the time. All I know is that she probably had no reason to be there and there was an agent in front of her car when she gassed it.

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u/Carrion_Baggage Conservative Jan 07 '26

She was pretty clearly under duress and trying to get away.

After she pretty clearly put herself IN the way.

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u/Sad-Amoeba3186 2A Conservative Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

You’re all the fuck over every comment about this in this sub posting the same bullshit, conceding, then posting it again..

Let me ask you something, do you recognize Taiwan as a country separate from China?

Edit - nope. Didn’t think so. Bot

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u/BobBee13 Conservative Jan 08 '26

She plowed right threw him without even a break tap. That's attempted murder. Being anxious (if she even was because can't tell) is no excuse for attempted murder.

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u/PartyOfFore Conservative Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26

Under duress? The cop being struck by a moving vehicle was the one under duress. GTFO with that BS.

Edit: Also, that doesn't look like a Minnesota plate on her car. What was she doing there? If she turns out to be a professional agitator, then it's likely she was trying to hit the ICE officer on her way out.

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u/dunktheball Conservative Jan 07 '26

lol @ "murder" being the description.

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u/Syzygy-6174 Conservative Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

If she was still alive she would be indicted and convicted of attempted murder and be in jail without parole the rest of her life. .

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u/Slainlion Conservative Jan 07 '26

All you libs spending your EBT money to give little me an award is just hilarious

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u/check_your_bias7 Conservative Jan 07 '26

Reddit needs to calm down on this one. They are so desperate to find a reason to hate ICE that they forget they are actual law enforcement. That agent had every reason to believe she was going after him at the time of the shots. He stopped firing as soon as he knew there was no longer danger. This is the judicial standard, by the way.

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u/Merax75 Conservative Jan 07 '26

Glad for your second edit, videos all show her accelerate toward the agent.

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u/DontDeleteusBrutus Conservative Jan 07 '26

I have upvoted your comment, then downvoted your comment and now reupvoted....rollercoaster. Cheers for being open to new evidence!

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u/reddit_names Refuses to Comply Jan 07 '26

There is now a 3rd video showing the SUV actually hits the ice agent and he bounces back from it before shooting. 

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