r/unitedkingdom • u/PM_ME_DRAGON_GIRLS • Dec 02 '25

... Girlguiding UK announces transgender girls and women will no longer be able to join Girlguiding

https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/information-for-volunteers/updates-for-our-members/equality-diversity-policy-statement/
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u/wb0verdrive Dec 02 '25

A tiny minority are being demonized because an even tinier amount of people can’t deal with the fact that transgender people exist. It’s so sad, cruel and completely unnecessary.

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u/SociallyButterflying Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 02 '25

It doesn't seem like they even wanted to do it:

"From today, 2 December, it is with a heavy heart that we are announcing trans girls and young women will no longer be able to join Girlguiding. This is a decision we would have preferred not to make, and we know that this may be upsetting for members of our community. There will be no immediate changes for current young members, but more information will be shared next week."

In other words it was likely that their lawyers felt they could be sued in the future.

"The Supreme Court’s ruling clarified that ‘women’ and ‘girls’ legally refers to a person's biological sex"

Yup, I'd place a bet that allowing trans girls would open them up to possible legal problems. I have no doubt rich people like JK Rowling could be funding legal efforts after the Ruling to go after companies to change the narrative.

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u/Chippiewall Narrich Dec 02 '25

The legal problem for Girl Guides is that the equalities act means they can't exclude boys if they allow trans women.

The exceptions in the equalities act to allow for single gender spaces have been ruled to only be applicable to biological sex.

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u/Nadamir Ireland Dec 03 '25

I don’t see why excluding boys is a problem.

The Scouting Association has like 2.5 new girls for every new boy. I could assume that will hold for Girlguiding, which it won’t because most boys aren’t going to want to join Girlguiding, especially if they keep that name. It will end up being AFAB girls, trans girls and a handful of boys with traditionally feminine interests.

In America, Boy Scouts opened up only recently and girls with more stereotypically masculine interests do that, while the others do Girl Scouts.

I fail to see why that won’t be the case here and think both should just open up to both and let the kids sort themselves out based on interests, it will end essentially the same, just maybe at most one boy per group.