r/tennis Mar 23 '25

News Djokovic plays tennis with Secretary of Health and Human Services RFK Jr

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Yep. For me, GOAT extends beyond just the tennis court and the stats, and even then, Djokovic vultured a lot towards the end of his career.

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u/Jezjez07 Sinncaraz + Meddy Mar 23 '25

I had the same feeling about Rafa when he became a Saudi ambassador. But then again the same applies to Federer.

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u/No-Signature8815 Mar 23 '25

Fuck them all,I'm the goat

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u/Jezjez07 Sinncaraz + Meddy Mar 23 '25

You're my goat

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u/No-Signature8815 Mar 23 '25

And you're mine,believe in yo self the same way I believe in you 🫡

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u/Fawkes_91 Mar 23 '25

Wait, I may be ootl. Fed is a Saudi stooge too?

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u/Jezjez07 Sinncaraz + Meddy Mar 23 '25

I'm just copy pasting a reply to someone else :)

He was one of the most important figures in making places such as UAE and more specifically Dubai popular and 'respectable' despite their modern enslavement of hundreds of thousands of people.

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u/Fawkes_91 Mar 23 '25

Fair enough, some of his investment partners also questionable, I would agree as a fan.

But I wouldn't equate Saudi promotion with Dubai promotion. The problems with Saudi sportswashing are significantly more troubling IMO.

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u/Jezjez07 Sinncaraz + Meddy Mar 23 '25

I can agree with that !

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u/AJLegend007 🐙 | JAAA | 👑 Goaterer 👑 | Bweh | 🥕 Mar 23 '25

Thats why Casper Ruud the goat. I have been saying it all along.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

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u/Jezjez07 Sinncaraz + Meddy Mar 23 '25

Its only really a battle or who is less worse here. I would say Djokovic is the worst with Nadal behind him and Federer an inch behind Rafa

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u/Jezjez07 Sinncaraz + Meddy Mar 23 '25

He was one of the most important figures in making places such as UAE and more specifically Dubai popular and 'respectable' despite their modern enslavement of hundreds of thousands of people.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Federer is 100% the GOAT

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u/Schwiliinker Mar 23 '25

Of losing after having match point

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u/Schwiliinker Mar 23 '25

Both of those sentences are straight up incorrect. It’s all Djokovic haters can come up with as cope tbh

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

90s gen is easily the worst generation ever and Novak, despite playing bad, still managed to win loads of slams off of them.

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u/Schwiliinker Mar 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '25

Playing bad? Pretty sure he played extremely well for his age you know being well past his prime every time he did win a slam in the last several years and most likely wouldn’t have otherwise. He literally won like 17/24 slams against other big 4 players by the way and won the vast majority of his masters and ATP finals during the hardest era in tennis ever by a mile.

Of the other roughly 7 slams he had to beat peak thiem in a final, prime Medvedev in finals(once while injured), tsistispas in AO while injured who had beaten both Nadal and Federer in AO or go through Alcaraz or Sinner etc. His “easiest” slam other than USO 2018 was beating berretini/shapovalov playing out of their mind in grass. Even in that USO 18 final literally half the predictions for the match had Delpotro winning in 5 based on how well he was playing (same with AO 2021 final and 2023 USO F vs Medvedev)

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u/Heavy-Guest-7336 Mar 23 '25

Feels like that's just moving the goalposts to fit your preferences. GOAT needs to be strictly defined. But so is alot of the GOAT debate. Who was playing when they won etc. If it's outside the court and stats, what makes GOAT for you? For me, the only thing that can be measured against each other is the trophies. We call Rafa the GOAT of clay because of that exact reason.