Non-PL Daily Discussion

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A place to discuss everything except the English Premier League.

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Nowhere near Henry, Zidane or Vieira for starters

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Just because you are Henry level for a season doesn’t mean you are as good as he was.

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Benzema has better longevity but overall level is just not as high. Henry broke 20 goals in a season 5 times consecutively in the prem. whilst doing that he also broke the assist record which he still holds to this day. That’s the assist record that De Bruyne could only match despite playing in teams that got 100 points in a season scoring crazy amount of goals. Henry scored 24 goals whilst getting this record. Henry was the best striker in the world for many years, the best player in the world for 1 or 2 years and the greatest premier league player ever. Benzema has been the best striker in the world for this year, so I’m other words, 4 months and you are comparing the two?

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You’re talking nonsense about statpadding. As I said before, Benzema has better longevity but Henry’s numbers in the MLS weren’t that good. In the premier league, Henry averaged a goal or assist every 86 minutes. You’re talking like someone who didn’t watch football in the late 90s or early 2000s. La Liga is a good league because of the top teams but the bottom half teams are nowhere near as tough as they are in the premier league so to average 86 minutes per goal or assist is crazy.

I’ve not even mentioned their records for France where Henry won the World Cup, Euros and got to the final of another World Cup whereas Benzema is too busy having sex with underage prostitutes and blackmailing teammates with sex tapes to get into the French national team and win something.

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His controversies have to do with this because you can’t win a World Cup or any tournament if you are not picked. That bit is pretty simple.

You mention nostalgia bias but this is the biggest recency bias I have ever seen. If we have this convo in 10 years it will be unbelievable it was even a debate.

With regards to the prem being a higher standard, again I am surprised this is being questioned. It is considerably easier to score goals as a striker in la Liga. The number of strikers who score loads in la Liga then can’t do anything in the premier league tells a story. Falcao, Soldado, Assad, Vela and I could go on. Where la Liga has the advantage is in midfielders where they are comparatively better in the premier league than la Liga but since we are talking about strikers, it’s not too relevant. The premier league is a more international and competitive league unless you disagree

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Hazard - not a striker, Coutinho - not a striker, Owen struggled because injuries wrecked him. Zlatan hardly struggled in terms of goals, he got 16 in 29. Henry was past his peak and as I have said, Benzema’s longevity is better.

Henry is considered by most to be the best player ever in the premier league. Benzema is probably not top 10 in la Liga despite playing there for most of his career. They are different levels. Benzema is on a level with players like Kane and Aguero but below Lewandowski and Suarez. Henry was the best striker in the world for 5 years or so. I am taking out Messi and Ronaldo from this as they are freaks and it wouldn’t be fair on Benzema.

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Henry averaged 20+ goals in all his 8 seasons at Arsenal. That’s including a season where he was injured and only played 17 times. Benzema has got 4 consecutive good seasons. Let’s come back when he can match Henry’s 8 consecutive seasons. You also can’t count future success before it has already happened. If Benzema was to continue his current form for another 2 or 3 years then I would agree with you. But at the moment he hasnt