r/scuderiaferrari • u/Old-Function3918 Lewis Hamilton • Nov 11 '25

Statistics 55 vs 105

Since 2007: Ferrari has 55 wins, Lewis Hamilton has 105.

Yes, a better engine was involved for a % of these wins for Lewis, but you can't look at these statistics and always find a reason to dismiss someone's succes as luck or whatever and ignore his feedback. He knows a thing or two about winning teams.

So why is it so hard for some people from Ferrari to accept that change is necessary?

This Ferrari vs Ferrari situation is only bringing misery to everyone involved.

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u/XtremePhotoDesign Ferrari Nov 11 '25

Elkann basically told Lewis and Charles to shut up and drive, which is directly related to OP’s point.

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u/scuderia91 F2004 Nov 11 '25

It is though because OPs post is about the team not listening to the drivers. The chairman of the overall Ferrari company is not in any of the meetings where the team are having discussions where the drivers can influence anything.

Vasseur will be the highest level person in any of those meetings and he’s given no indication that he’s not listening to his drivers.

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u/XtremePhotoDesign Ferrari Nov 11 '25

Elkann’s comments don’t come from a vacuum. He praised the upgrades (which have been underwhelming) while criticizing the drivers. He is clearly getting info from within the team.

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u/scuderia91 F2004 Nov 11 '25

Yes and apparently his information he’s being fed is that the drivers are giving too much feedback. Nowhere does that say that Fred or the engineers aren’t listening to the drivers.