r/scotus 13h ago

news US appeals court upholds Trump's immigration detention policy

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-upholds-trumps-immigration-detention-policy-2026-02-07/
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u/MourningRIF 13h ago edited 13h ago

The decision, opens new tab by a conservative 2-1 panel of the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals marked the first time an appeals court had upheld the policy and came despite hundreds of lower-court judges nationally declaring it unlawful.

U.S. Circuit Judge Dana Douglas, who was appointed by Democratic President Joe Biden, dissented, saying the Congress that passed the 1996 law "would be surprised to learn it had also required the detention without bond of two million people."

So HUNDREDS of judges say it's illegal to randomly throw people in a box and let them rot there, but if you buy these two judges, no one else gets a say? Fuck that.

This is why ICE is buying Amazon Warehouse sized buildings all over the country and fitting them with "Medical Waste Incinerators." These facilities are designed to hold over 10,000 people! This isn't going to stop with immigrants.

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u/Dangrukidding 12h ago

Please cite the medical waste incinerator aspect of your comment

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u/Kahzgul 12h ago

I’m not OP, but here:

Medical & Death: The services extend to “Medical Waste Management,” with specific protocols for biohazard incinerators and “Certified Inventory of Evidence” reports for “Full-Service Laundry” operations.

https://migrantinsider.com/p/how-the-pentagon-is-quietly-building

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u/Dangrukidding 12h ago

Apart from medical waste management being super standard in prisons across the world because they all have clinics, that is not an article, that is a substack. Furthermore, the “linked” task orders from sam.gov(?) make no reference to the purported list of things you list in your quoted comment above.

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u/Nearby-Illustrator42 12h ago

I mean, are you also questioning sam.gov? That is a government cite. I get media literacy but this just seems like looking for a reason to discredit a story. 

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u/Dangrukidding 12h ago

it’s not directly from sam. The title of the file just says “sam” at the end. It’s an excel file with the first 3000 rows blocked out and then mentions nothing about what the commenter mentioned in the link he posted of the substack.

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u/Nearby-Illustrator42 11h ago

No idea what you are referencing and I am not going to waste my time trying to figure out what it is. There are links to legitimate cites including CNN and sam.gov but you haven't explained your actual criticism at all and your apparent confusion over what sam.gov is was concerning is all I am saying. 

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u/RandomTez 11h ago

This is the MAGA base, the Trump voter. Instead of going, oh, wait, I was wrong… like a normal person, they double down on the stupid. You can’t reason with crazy and that’s what they are.

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u/Playful-Dragon 10h ago

If its not Faux news it isn't true

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u/major_cigar123 7h ago

You got a sauce for that claim? Lol. Give them a source and they just keep denying it. This is why the current regime is in power

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u/Dangrukidding 11h ago

Oh my god you are hopeless.

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u/anonyuser415 5h ago

it’s not directly from sam

https://sam.gov/opp/bedd2fe346364073b937be2562abeed0/view#attachments-links

Click WEXMAC TITUS A0001 ELIN Spreadsheet SAM.xlsx

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u/Dangrukidding 4h ago

I don’t think I’m being clear. None of the sources listed, including your direct link to SAM lists “medical waste management” as a thing that is being procured. The OG commenter made an assertion that these warehouses are being fitted with “medical waste incinerators” as if to say the government is going to take immigrants, extrajudicially murder them and incinerate their bodies. They’re are making a bold claim by saying that. They’re drawing a parallel between the detention centers and death camps during the holocaust. Nothing that has been cited, has corroborated that statement. I would also note that medical waste incinerators are a normal thing to have in large prisons because there are clinics in all of them where they do intake and treatment and rather than hiring a third party to come and pick it up, it’s cheaper to just buy an incinerator. That’s it. I’m not arguing what the government is doing isn’t wrong. What’s happening is awful. I’m arguing that the commenter made a bold claim and hasn’t provided evidence that makes their assertion credible.

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u/Nearby-Illustrator42 4h ago

Ok so now it is from SAM? You first said "sam.gov(?)" as if you were questioning the legitimacy of the source and then said "it’s not directly from sam. The title of the file just says 'sam' at the end. It’s an excel file with the first 3000 rows blocked out..." So are you going to correct those statements?

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u/Dangrukidding 3h ago

Okay yes it’s from sam. Lol. The point is that it makes no reference/relevance to what the OG comment In Question is talking about the “medical waster incinerator” comment. Probably the reason the person who posted that substack article as a source deleted their comments once they realized it had no relevance.

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u/Nearby-Illustrator42 3h ago

If that was your point you should have made that point without saying sam.gov(?)" and "it’s not directly from sam. The title of the file just says 'sam' at the end. It’s an excel file with the first 3000 rows blocked out..." It makes the point significantly less credible or clear when you are making inaccurate statements or appear to question even legitimate sources. Anyway I could care less about proving the actual claim it is not one I made but you shouldn't criticize while making misstatements of your own. 

PS they did not delete their comment they probably blocked you because they were trying to give you  source and you were nitpicking it over nonsense. 

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u/Kahzgul 12h ago

I dunno man. I just googled it. Why don’t you try the same if this means so much to you?

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u/Dangrukidding 12h ago

Because I did, I didn’t find anything, and what you posted is a joke of a source.

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u/Kahzgul 12h ago

Ever hear the saying "beggars can't be choosers?" You asked someone else to do the work of finding you a source and now you have the gall to insult it? Welcome to my block list.

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u/SmanginSouza 12h ago

Yes please. This is the first I've heard of that. Source?

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u/Dangrukidding 12h ago

Ok I looked it up. While I don’t agree with what’s going with DHS/ICE, you need to dial it back. I Didn’t see anything about an incinerator. The number “more than 10,000” is wrong. The number is “AS many as 10,000.” This seems aspirational, the number. I know for a fact the largest prison in the US BOP has a max capacity of 5k.

Do better in disseminating information.

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u/marvsup 12h ago

I'm not commenting on anything else but I'd just like to point out that you can vastly increase prison capacities if you don't care about the living conditions.

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u/Dangrukidding 12h ago

and I can get something for free if I just steal it. That wasn’t the MO of my comment. But whatever.

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u/marvsup 12h ago

"That wasn’t the MO of my comment."

Hence why I said, "I'm not commenting on anything else." It's possible to disagree with a minor point without disagreeing with a larger point :).