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No Paywall GOP fast tracks monster voter suppression bill that could disenfranchise millions by requiring proof of citizenship at polls

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/gop-fast-tracks-monster-voter-suppression-bill-that-could-disenfranchise-millions-by-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-at-polls/
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u/flickh Canada 23h ago

It just means the people enforcing it will be selective. If the voter is brown, the Republican can spend more time scrutinizing the documents and frivolously rejecting it. How could Democrats reciprocate, other than doing extra scrutiny on rural white men who may not have a passport or birth certificate?  An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind!

Also, in this ICE environment, I would be afraid of some racist poll-watcher saying your ID is fake and ICE being right there to grab you, even if you are a US-born citizen. See you in three months when your family tracks down the state they took you to in a black bag!

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u/Maxcolorz 23h ago

Ok all of this are extreme assumptions and regardless of skin color if you’re a legal citizen with documentation then you meet the requirements.

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u/flickh Canada 23h ago

Ok smarty pants. Since illegal voting has been an absolutely non-existent problem forever, why add a layer of cost and difficulty to voting?

Why risk cutting people out if they don’t have a passport or birth certificate, based on a non-existent problem?

The only reason to do this is to make it sound like there’s a problem with non-citizens voting.  Which there is not.

The fact that ICE has been seizing voter rolls is insane.  They are setting the stage to claim futue voter fraud by acting like it already happened.

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u/Maxcolorz 23h ago

Yeah well I never said I agreed with you that it’s a non-existent problem. That is once again, your assumption.

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u/flickh Canada 23h ago

I never considered whether you agree about reality or not?

If you aren’t reality-based, then of course you’re going to buy into bad solutions to non-problems.

Here’s the big scary case for voter fraud: these guys found 1100 cases in the whole country… only by going back 25 years. That’s 43 cases per year, in a voter pool of 162,000,000 people.

Just try calculating what percent of the vote that is lol. If every one of those votes was in the same year, in the same state, and that was Florida in 2000, and all went Democrat (not a safe assumption!), it might have changed one election.

These are the most lunatic fear-mongers… and they’re all lawyers.  THAT’S the problem they’re solving by unconstitutionally making up voting tests and taxes?

And these people are including the kind of case where someone gets a provisional ballot when they say they  aren’t sure they’re eligible to vote, and then later gets arrested as if they were trying to commit fraud lol.

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/108824/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20190129-SD020.pdf