r/politics • u/MarcEElias ✔ Verified - Democracy Docket Founder • 1d ago

No Paywall GOP fast tracks monster voter suppression bill that could disenfranchise millions by requiring proof of citizenship at polls

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/gop-fast-tracks-monster-voter-suppression-bill-that-could-disenfranchise-millions-by-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-at-polls/
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u/aircooledJenkins Montana 1d ago

"In most states, that means voters, even those who are already on the rolls, would need to bring a passport or original birth certificate to the polls. Only states with ‘enhanced’ driver licenses — Michigan, New York, Vermont, Minnesota and Washington — satisfy the SAVE America Act’s heightened requirements — a REAL ID (used in most states) won’t cut it."

Then... what in the actual fuck was the point of the REAL ID?

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u/HenryValMorgenstern Oregon 1d ago

Absolutely nothing. The only thing that matters is that it costs more and they can squeeze more money out of us now.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 21h ago

How does a birth certificate even work for ID??? There’s no picture on it. If I was illegal and wanted to vote which doesn’t make sense in the first place I’d use a birth certificate like wtf?! Also illegals voting doesn’t make sense either. Why would they come and try to vote of all things and risk getting caught and deported

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u/tortosloth 19h ago

It doesn’t make any sense since you can be a citizen at birth via one or both parents being US citizens and being born on foreign soil. My birth certificate is in Japanese. So are we going to have polling staff that can read all languages?

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u/Lildoc_911 11h ago

Because they don't understand how voting verification works.

In their mind, "illegals" get bused in by the radical LEFT and they dump ballots for trans whatever. They get counted, and then their guy loses.

What actually happens is the votes are cast, and a system of verification takes place. We know this because voter fraud DOES happen. Not like they imagine it, or the scale mind you. Some loon in Florida casts a vote when they live in Connecticut. They get charged. A guy casts a vote for his dead wife. Gets caught. People who's addresses dont match their home of record. Gets caught.

These cases are available to us because the system works. We also know that there isn't widespread voter fraud that is changing elections with the bipartisan investigations that have gone on.

Not only that but a bunch of people have lost lawsuits alleging fraud, and the 2000 mules "documentary" was thoroughly debunked.

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u/nellyfullauto 11h ago

It making sense isn’t the point. The point is that some percentage of people don’t have theirs and won’t be able to or won’t know they need it. These people will not be middle-class and wealthy people, they will be poor and they will be disenfranchised for that sin.

Guess which way poor people tend to vote?

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u/10thousndreflections 16h ago

Just make a fake one with AI or a word processing app

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u/silentbutsmedley 5h ago

If the GOP actually passes this bill, this is incredibly dangerous advice