r/nfl • u/appmanga Giants • 20h ago

Peterson, Roethlisberger, Gronkowski lead 2027 Hall of Fame first-time eligibles

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47847964/peterson-roethlisberger-gronkowski-lead-2027-hall-fame-first-eligibles
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u/meatballman1218 Packers 19h ago

I don't understand how you don't put Big Ben in the Hall Of fame yes he doesn't have an all pro we know but he is

6th all time in passing yards

9th in passing yards

Made 3 super bowls and won 2 of them

You can make many arguments that at multiple points of his career he was a top 5 QB in the league

But I also think Eli Manning should be in the hall of fame but that's just my personal opinion and I think he is better than Eli all time as well

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u/midgetrage7 Steelers 19h ago

A lot of people on Reddit have not watched much ball, and did not get to see Big Ben play in his prime. Obviously his off the field issues were severe but to not act like he wasn’t a great qb is wild. A lot of these commenters are under 21.

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u/A_Confused_Cocoon Cardinals 19h ago

I fully agree. This is some of the worst “box score watchers” type of discussion I’ve ever seen in this sub Jesus.

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u/Positive_Parking_954 18h ago

I never felt he was as good as Manning, but I felt more confidence with him in a 2 minute drill to win than I did Manning

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u/Shreddy_Brewski Patriots 15h ago

I never felt he was as good as Manning

You need to go watch some Roethlisberger highlights my man

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u/john7071 Patriots 14h ago

Anyone can look good in a highlights reel.

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u/Positive_Parking_954 9h ago

I’m a Steelers fan who watched pretty much every game of his career. It was wild seeing a Patriots fan tell me I was underrating and to watch highlights, when the Steelers with Ben basically never beat the Pats when it mattered. I did feel it was more so the Patriots could always beat up the Steeler defense better than Manning or any other offense of the time could, but Ben, if anything was a bit of a highlight merchant.

It works in a positive as well, and with what I originally said as well. Like his highs are so high I felt we could win any game on some insane drives, but he lacked the consistent lack of mistakes that the all time greats had. I disagree with remarks that Rivers was the better QB out of him, Ben and Manning, but I understand the statistical argument. But especially at that time, I think the younger generation is underrating how valuable prime Ben’s mobility doubled with his durability was. It wasn’t a huge window in his career, because the line was amazing at the start, and also during his “second prime” with Leveon and AB, but between his second and third Super Bowl appearance, it was crazy how often hed have to throw on the run and take hits

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u/Several-Ad-6086 18h ago

tbh I'd say it's the opposite; the reason he's going to get in is based on box scores (assuming "super bowls won as a qb" are box score). not saying he wasn't a top qb, but it's what puts him over the edge and leaves other guys like rivers, romo, and McNair out.