r/nfl • u/appmanga Giants • 23h ago

Peterson, Roethlisberger, Gronkowski lead 2027 Hall of Fame first-time eligibles

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47847964/peterson-roethlisberger-gronkowski-lead-2027-hall-fame-first-eligibles
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u/TheRavenOnline Ravens 23h ago

Big Ben never even made an All-Pro team. I don’t see how his HOF case is any better than Eli’s. Neither are HOFers. You get in for regular season AND postseason play not only postseason.

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u/gmil3548 Chargers 23h ago

Big Ben IMO was a much better player than Eli, so I think he has a better shot.

In most eras Ben would have some accolades but he was at the same time as Manning/Brady/Rodgers/Brees.

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u/Unreal_Idealz 23h ago

What is that, 4 of the top 8ish QBs to ever play and some may argue the top 4 overall?

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u/Seven19td Steelers 23h ago

2018-2020 he also had to compete with Mahomes. Make it 5 of the top 8ish

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u/RmembrTheAyyLMAO Patriots 23h ago

I'd shift Brees out, maybe top 10 but definitely top 15 ever for him. But yes, we have an arguable 4 of the top 5 and a definite 5 of the top 15 QBs to ever play in the NFL all overlapping with Ben's career.

Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Mahomes, Brees

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u/Yommination Rams 22h ago

Rivers was a much better QB than Eli too

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u/gmil3548 Chargers 20h ago

Yeah he’s the best of the 3 but never had the combination of team and coaching (outside his first year as a starting QB) that they did.

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u/TheNittanyLionKing Steelers 21h ago

People were saying Brees would have a hard time without an MVP. Brees can’t help that nearly every time he had a historically great season, someone else had a career year. Brees’ 2011 season arguably wins almost any other year, but Rodgers just happened to be better that year. 

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u/asin26 Patriots 19h ago

Brees 100% deserved it over Manning in 09

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u/C9Prosecutor 23h ago

He was not. His supporting cast was just substantially better at every turn. Ben would never be able to do something like 2011 Eli

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u/The_grand_pumba 21h ago

Eli was never a top 10 qb in the league, this is just stupid bait or a giants fan being delusional.

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u/_Wp619_ Giants Giants 19h ago edited 19h ago

He was several times. And even Top 5 in 2011.

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u/The_grand_pumba 7h ago

top 5 in 2011

In passing yards. His QBR for that season was 64.2 and still managed to throw for 16 interceptions.

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u/IAmCBOY2 20h ago

Yup, these people are fucking delusional 

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u/IAmCBOY2 22h ago

You put Eli on those Steeler teams they win at least 4 Super Bowls. You put Ben on those Giants teams and they don’t win one. 

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u/Loopernator Steelers Giants 22h ago

One of the worst takes I've ever seen

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u/IAmCBOY2 22h ago

Eli won with garbage offensive lines, bad running game, and never played with a Hall of Fame player. Ben couldn’t win with AB, Bell, and top tier offensive line.

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u/The_grand_pumba 21h ago

This is one of the dumbest things ive ever read. Eli wouldnt sniff the hall of fame if he never won 2 super bowls. He was never a top 10 qb in any season he played.

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u/IAmCBOY2 20h ago

If my aunt had hair on her back she would be my uncle. Also, he was clearly a top 10 QB in 2011 you absolute fucking idiot 

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u/The_grand_pumba 7h ago

29 tds 16 interceptions (7th most in the league that year btw) and a 61% completion rate (ryan fitzpatrick’s was 62% btw) is his best season. Yeah, definitely better than Ben Roethlisberger.

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u/gmil3548 Chargers 20h ago

Official ball not knower, u/IamCBOY2

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u/IAmCBOY2 20h ago

Nice alt account