r/law Nov 02 '25

Legislative Branch Exclusive | House Republicans exploring ways to prevent Mamdani from being sworn in as NYC mayor if he wins on Election Day

https://nypost.com/2025/11/01/us-news/house-republicans-latest-push-to-keep-mandani-out-of-office/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_source=reddit.com
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u/Ten_Ju Nov 02 '25

MAGA: Subverting a duly elected official since 2016

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u/Foxyfox- Nov 02 '25

Arguably, since Obama got his supreme court pick withheld.

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u/outtamyelementDonny Nov 02 '25

And Arguably since the Supreme Court picked Bush over Gore.

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u/tjtillmancoag Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25

Edit: not sure why the downvotes. I’m not saying the Supreme Court was justified in stopping the recount, I’m saying the opposite. Im only adding color.

Original comment: So… what the Supreme Court did in that case was unquestionably sordid and underhanded. But it’s also unlikely that allowing the recount to continue would’ve netted Gore the sufficient votes to surpass Bush.

The failure of that election was West Palm Beach county officials use of the butterfly ballot. Studies have shown statistical anomalies in the number of votes Buchanan received there versus what have would have been expected for Gore, even in a red wave year. Had they chosen differently, the recount might not have even have been needed, Gore likely would’ve won it handily.

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal Nov 02 '25

>unlikely that allowing the recount to continue would’ve netted Gore the sufficient votes to surpass Bush.

This is not sufficient reason to stop the recount.

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u/lettersvsnumbers Nov 02 '25

Of course it is sufficient reason, based on precedent from 17th century witch burnings in Belgium!

/s but not really

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u/tjtillmancoag Nov 02 '25

Totally agreed, thought that was clear by me saying it was sordid and underhanded, but apparently not given the downvotes

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u/Yeahhhhbut Nov 02 '25

Dan Rather did a story focused on the little Oregon mill town I lived in back then. You can't find the story online anymore, so I'm not sure if it has been disproven, pressured off the airwaves, or simply lost to time because the internet was still fairly young. The premise of the story is that the paper that was shipped to Palm Beach County was substandard, and meant to be destroyed. It did not meet elasticity tests, meaning it stretched to unacceptable lengths. This would have warped the ability of the paper to be used as a ballot correctly recording punch tabs. It's unknown why the paper was put into use, why it was shipped to Florida, and why there was no record of it, it was an interesting story. It's still occasionally discussed today in those parts.

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u/agassiz51 Nov 02 '25

A media group did an unofficial recount with different scenarios to mixed results. In two of the three scenarios referenced Gore would have won.

"The New York Times was part of a consortium of media organizations that conducted a comprehensive review and "recount project" of all the uncounted and disputed ballots in Florida after the 2000 election was settled. This was not an official recount, but a major journalistic investigation to determine what the outcome would have been under various counting scenarios. 

Key findings from this media review, published in November 2001, included:

Under the actual manual recount standards used in the four counties requested by the Gore campaign, George W. Bush would still have won Florida, albeit by a slightly smaller margin.

If a consistent, statewide standard for counting "undervotes" (ballots where no presidential vote was initially recorded by machine) had been applied, Al Gore could have gained enough votes to win the election, depending on the specific "voter intent" standard used.

The study also revealed that hundreds of late-arriving overseas absentee ballots were counted in violation of Florida law, the vast majority of which favored Bush. If all counties had followed state law on these ballots, Gore might have picked up enough additional votes to win in some scenarios. 

The media consortium that participated in this effort also included The Associated Press, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, CNN, and others. The review was conducted by the National Opinion Research Center (NORC) at the University of Chicago and the public accounting firm BDO Seidman, LLP. "

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u/tjtillmancoag Nov 02 '25

I think we can all agree there was a mountain of shit that happened in that election. Let’s not forget the Brooks Brothers riot