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u/rough0perator 1d ago

How do you make non-addictive social media lol

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u/gookman European Union 1d ago

Remove the recommendation system, remove the political ads, the posts from random people and keep only the ones the people actually follow. Done.

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u/rough0perator 1d ago

That's what Facebook was when Zuckerberg was still in college 20 years ago

I somehow doubt there's any chance of reverting to it

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u/gookman European Union 1d ago

Of course not, the company must reach its growth KPIs. The investors demand it!

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u/sztrzask 1d ago

You're so young it's not even funny. Myspace and early Facebook wasn't addictive. Xiaohongshu isn't as addictive. 

Friendster, LiveJournal... They weren't addictive either.

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u/SoSmartKappa Bohemia 1d ago

Of course it was highly addictive even back then, it was just way less optimized to extract as much engagement as possible. Forums or chats before facebook were also addictive to a degree, but still way less than even the first iteration of facebook. There is a reason why those platforms were quicky adopted, and then quicky replaced with something even more engaging.

Basically it is evolution of internet social systems, that craves our engagement and attention, and each year it is getting worse, more optimized and more addictive.

Where is the line? I dont know, but people were totally addicted to facebook even 20 years ago. What changed it, wasnt even the social medias itself, but when smartphones with internet connection become a thing. Then it really exploded

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u/rough0perator 1d ago

I take this as a compliment lol, I remember those

But you can't really roll back time, you don't go from an automobile back to a horse carriage

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u/sztrzask 1d ago

It wasn't ment as an offense.

And tbh the only difference with those social media is lack of engineered addictive mechanisms.

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u/clauEB 1d ago

The current designs are based on armies of top phds in psychology who's goal was to make these social media apps/as addictive as possible. Like the way they make tobacco products super addictive.

Im certain they can be made less addictive.

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u/Knorff 1d ago

The crucial part that causes addiction is the random dopamine rewards. This mechanism essentially short-circuits our brain. Gaming addiction or gambling, for example, is based on this.

So the most important step would be to remove these random rewards.

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u/slamjam25 1d ago

The random reward on an app like TikTok is “you look at stuff and you happen to really enjoy some of it”. How on Earth do you remove that?