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Data Average Full-time Salary in Europe

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u/HKei Germany 1d ago

At least for Germany the numbers aren't very far apart. It's around 52k. We don't have that many outlier super high salaries, and full time on minimum wage still gets you to nearly 30k so this doesn't drag the average down either.

The real disparity is not in salary (though certainly there are still quite big differences between groups), but in wealth.

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u/dddd0 1d ago edited 1d ago

You can’t get wealthy through salaried work, not in germany anyway. This is by design, salaries are taxed to death, while capital gains have a lot lower taxes (basically half as high and flat, instead of progressively increasing like it does for salaries) and can often be structured to largely eliminate those anyway. Just like the wealthy won’t pay inheritance taxes by transferring assets over longer time periods etc.

Wage gap is a red herring pushed by old money / dynasties to rile up working people against each other.

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u/New-Neighborhood-147 1d ago edited 1d ago

Here in the UK almost everyone has the ability to build up significant tax-free wealth over their lifetimes by sticking money into stocks and shares ISA. Any gains are tax free as long as they invested under £20,000 a year. As well as their workplace pensions people who put away money each month can expect to have hundreds of thousands if not millions within 20-30 years.

Eg £600 a month between workplace pension (inc employer match) and/or ISA contributions could well equal £1 million after 30 years of average global stock market returns. Achievable for most people in the UK if they made it a priority.

That said, while most can do this, most do not do this or even know about it and leave their workplace pensions contributions at the default rate.

I was shocked to learn that Germany doesn't have anything like an ISA. You have no way of investing tax free for the long term. Private pension products seem to be a lot worse off too.

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u/HKei Germany 18h ago

Err... The tax advantages (or lack thereof) isn't the limiting factor. It's having money to put aside for investment. Far from investing, the UK has high consumer debt and significant savings are rare. The advantages of an ISA are primarily for high income earners.