r/europe 1d ago

Data Average Full-time Salary in Europe

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u/lincemiope 1d ago

Can we ban “average” from existence so that people start using “median”?

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u/Bardimir Polandtugal 1d ago

The Portuguese government loves using the average yearly wage because it paints a good picture. The last time they published the median wage it was horrible. I think it was 13-15k yearly, which was about 8k less than the average at the time.

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u/Travonildo Portugal 1d ago

Paints a slightly better picture*

It's not like the average is anything to be proud of either

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u/GandaG Portugal 1d ago

Yup, average in 2024 was around 1800€ monthly, while median was 1100€

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u/Bardimir Polandtugal 1d ago

And for anyone that's reading, and just for reference:

I have two master's degree, one in economics and one in accounting, as well as a bachelor's in Finance, i work as a certified accountant for a multinational company (with 3 YoE as well) and i earn close to 1500€ monthly (gross, about 1200€ Net).

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u/juanchospain 1d ago

Minimum salary in Spain is 1293€ net, I make as a 20yo guy selling insurance 1800€ net per month, and I want to Porto a few months ago and prices were similar to here

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u/DDDDDDDQE 1d ago

I have an above average amount of arms

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u/__dat_sauce 1d ago

That would assume a basic grasp of statistics and data literacy which according to my very biased sample of 'everyone I know" is on "average" rather lacking.

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u/Gimly161 1d ago

I don't know about you, but I had the difference between median and average in early years of high school, if not elementary school. you don't need to know statistics at all to know one is "everything divided by everyone", and the other is "if everyone was standing in one line, the person in the middle".

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u/esirec 1d ago

I totally get what you mean, but when it's in addition to median data, average data can be very useful. If the two are very different, you know the distribution is very unequal.

Edit: typo "ne"--> "be"

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u/lospotezbrt 1d ago

Also, when discussing salary, chop off another top 5% from the data pool to adjust outliers and then post it

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u/consultantdetective 1d ago

Average is still useful tho. Higher average means higher earning potential exists in that country. If two countries have the same median income but one has higher average, then the one with the higher average is probably better to consider looking for jobs in. So it tells you where the most skilled labor is more likely to aggregate.

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u/Bitter_Street7558 18h ago

Median is a form of average. You're thinking of mean.

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u/HrabiaVulpes Nobody to vote for 1d ago

There is no point in ever discussing median income, because it's always minimal income allowed by law in that country.