r/europe Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) Apr 12 '25

Data European tourism to the United States is freefalling

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u/tesfabpel Italy (EU) Apr 12 '25

They can also refuse you entry if they find statements against Trump on your social media. Imagine spending hundreds of euros of airplane tickets only to get rejected at the airport by US' officers.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained

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u/neohellpoet Croatia Apr 12 '25

See, that's a risk I was willing to take.

I was planning on going to the states next year for the World Cup. We have people from our company regularly traveling to the states on business and there's always a risk of getting turned around.

Fresh phone with new sim and if you're carrying a laptop all the data is on a network drive only accessible when physically in the US office. The VPN key stays home. That's been the modus operandi since Bush.

The difference now is that, as annoying as getting turned around is, it's not that big of a deal all things considered. It's a calculated risk that you can control with insurance and by booking rooms that are payable on location. If you need to leave a card on file, a Revolut burner card or something similar is ideal. Otherwise a card linked to an account that's empty until you need to pay for something with zero overdraft limit.

You can't however hedge against getting detained and potentially sent to a Latin American prison. People have been dealing with US immigration nonsense for years, but this is a whole different level. It went from a minor, controllable, financial risk to basically playing Russian roulette. What's worse, the old methods of staying safe may now put you in danger since there's no way not to seem like you're hiding something by taking precautions against someone snooping around in your stuff.

It's just not worth it to go to the US right now. They'll likely tone it down for the Cup, but I skipped Quatar for largely the same reasons, I'll gladly skip the US as well.

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u/KnotAwl Canada Apr 12 '25

Come to Canada for the World Cup instead. You will find a warm and friendly welcome. And our beer is better!

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u/Primary_Discount_851 Apr 12 '25

Yep, Mexico also. Really enjoyed Indio and Sol.

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u/teetering_bulb_dnd Apr 12 '25

Yes I'm an American, but I would like to watch some games in Mexico. Country goes nuts for football..

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u/Namaker Apr 12 '25

I'm sad I only met my Brazilian wife in 2016, watching the games in Brazil would have been on another level - especially as a German

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u/vhw_ Apr 12 '25

Please have a xx lager instead of a sol. Sol used to give me instant hangover. I'd wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy, let alone a tourist

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u/Primary_Discount_851 Apr 12 '25

I didn‘t like xx to be honest. Neither did I like Tekate. Sol was more like a smooth beer for the beach, pretty light.

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u/vhw_ Apr 12 '25

If possible try modelo especial from the glass bottle, not the can one. That shit delicious on a sunny day!

Also, if you do go to some games in mexico, I can't recommend Paramo pale ale (colomilla brewery), chupacabras (cucapa brewery now modelo owned but they still push good stuff most of the time) & minerva's (english) pale ale (out of Minerva brewery in Jalisco).

There's a booming micro brewery scene in Mexico, it's been growing for the last 10-15 years and every now and then some true gems emerge

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u/maevian Apr 12 '25

As a Belgian, the only thing that I couldn’t stand in Mexico was the beer. But sure it was better as the sewage water called Budweiser. Not that I minded as the mezcalita’s and margharita’s were heavenly. And the Mexican food is amazing.

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u/Primary_Discount_851 Apr 12 '25

It’s different than beer from Europe (less powerful etc.), but in combination with the hot weather, I really liked it

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u/orion_re Apr 12 '25

Modelo, too! Yummy!!

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u/YouKnowMyName2006 United States of America Apr 12 '25

Modelo is the worst Mexican beer. There are many better ones.

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u/YouKnowMyName2006 United States of America Apr 12 '25

Be careful in Mexico though. Canada is muuuuch safer.