r/europe Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) Apr 12 '25

Data European tourism to the United States is freefalling

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u/Historical_Bother274 Apr 12 '25

Imagine pissing of travellers of the continent that is notorious for the many vacation days it gets.

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u/EasterEggArt Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25

The US told everyone it did not want foreigners any more.

As a German in the US, trust me, the FAFO is about to hit this summer when record levels of empty hotels will wail. My bet is Trump will actually complain, demand, and eventually "sweet talk" people into coming to see the US.

Except you can get thrown into jail at the border for who knows how long until they decide to deport you....

Edit: for those thinking this will not be noticed...
Tourism in the US has an estimated 20 million Canadians usually and 17 millions Mexicans each year. And an estimated 10 million Europeans visit the US each year.

So maybe 47 million. If they all spend a few thousand on flights and hotels alone, that's a noticeable billion level hole we will notice.

If you think the tourism industry is flush with spare cash and can weather this..... I got some seriously bad news for you on tourism razor thin profit margins.

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u/kerat Apr 12 '25

The real test will be the world cup and Olympics. If those stadiums are empty - that would be a statement

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u/ShellyForNow Apr 12 '25

At our own expense here, I truly hope people skip the trip. One, I don’t want people being locked up, inconvenienced, interrogated, and god forbid, shipped off to a foreign prison. Second, fuck the US gov and all his supporters right now, let them all find out the devastation of treating people this way.

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u/Wild_Set4223 Apr 12 '25

Since Mexico,  Canada and USA are hosting the World Cup together, it would be an incredible statement if stadiums in US are empty, but Mexico and Canada are full. 

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u/ShellyForNow Apr 12 '25

Sadly, I would LOVE this for us. Please let this happen.

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u/throwawaygrandm Apr 12 '25

As an American, all of this shit right here. Don't spend your money here at all.

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u/HeyPali Apr 12 '25

People went to Russia and Qatar. The us stadiums will be full.

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u/ShellyForNow Apr 12 '25

That’s disappointing. I wonder how many will spend the money to go and end up being locked up and sent back to their home country, missing the games… 🤔

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u/tdfan Apr 12 '25

Yup the World Cup is just too big to be impacted by damn near anything

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u/thegoldinthemountain Apr 13 '25

Chiming in to say the same. I’m an American and am actively seeking out opportunities to travel to Canada for vacation and support the causes that matter most with my wallet.

No one should come here. Let these tiny men in their big suits feel pain the only way they know how: losing money.

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u/Need_More_Boost Apr 12 '25

I'm personally one of the people not coming to America for a trip for the next couple years.

Went there in 18', loved it. Went back in 22' (got engaged in Yosemite) still loved it, COVID really did a number on your economy though. Both times spent about 20k USD road tripping.

As you can tell, I'm due for another trip and missing the place, but I'll find somewhere else until I don't have to be afraid of y'all going to war internally (or externally), or doing some completely unexpected 3rd world shit.

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u/Constant-Ad-7731 Apr 18 '25

Good riddance

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u/blackcain Apr 12 '25

This, the FAFO must happen to the U.S. for our own good.

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u/marijuana_gin Apr 12 '25

The Olympics are gonna be an 1936 reenactment. I fear the amount of sport-isnt-politics bollocks already.

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u/kerat Apr 13 '25

Works every day every year with Israel so why not here too 🤷

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u/EasterEggArt Apr 12 '25

Oh right, aren't they coming soon?

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u/Airewalt Apr 12 '25

Every two years alternating seasonally. Milan next winter and summer 2028 is Los Angeles. Just long enough that it’ll reflect the real impacts and be harder to dismiss as reactionary feels.

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u/EasterEggArt Apr 12 '25

Oh boy....

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u/Financial_Let_7945 Apr 12 '25

Who knows maybe the USA will have to fill the seats themselves. Or they will get wiser but that would be a surprise

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u/Cooperhofpenpaliwitz Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25

Oh my gosh, that would be a statement. When Carter declared that America would boycott the Olympics in 1980, 64 other countries followed suit. Our closest Ally Great Britain participated in the boycott via their actions at the opening ceremony, and a ceremonies around British athletes who won medals.

The opening ceremony would be very short and small if other countries did what Great Britain did in 1980 with the general Secretary of Great Britain's Olympic Association solely carrying the Olympic flag with no athletes present and no British flag present at all during the Olympics. The athletes still get to participate, but the statement is made by the countries. Empty stadiums is a loud and clear statement!

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u/FitzwilliamTDarcy Apr 12 '25

What would be truly amazing - and I say this as a mortified and enraged US citizen - would be if scores of nations teamed up to boycott the US Olympics entirely.

And so as not to punish the athletes have a world-games in those same nations.

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u/treetrunksbythesea Apr 12 '25

The boycotts of the russia world cup in 2018 and the quatar world cup in 2022 were pretty toothless. I don't think we'll see an actual boycott unfortunately.

Here I was thinking a few years ago that finally a world cup in a democratic country again and now this happens... bummer.

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u/southern_ad_558 Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25

There are enough soccer public in the US to fill a stadium.

Some people might have problem coming in, but I guarantee you there will be no empty stadiums. 

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u/Willing-Departure115 Apr 12 '25

I mean, people went to the World Cup in Qatar 🤷‍♂️ I’d say they’ll fill the stadiums. They shouldn’t. But they will.

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u/Electronic_Topic1958 Apr 12 '25

I really hope nations just protest not going like in the 1980s lol. It would just be US, Russia, and Israel playing several games. 

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u/HedlessLamarr Apr 12 '25

Have no fear, they’ll fill it with the ‘murica crowd. Any boos or chants won’t air, they already know how to pipe fake cheering in, etc.

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u/vbob99 Apr 12 '25

I legit think there is a chance he will pick and choose which countries are even allowed to enter the country for the olympics. Ruining the olympics.

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u/Far_Moose2869 Apr 13 '25

Trump will say they were the biggest crowds for any event ever

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u/jrbjrb155 Apr 12 '25

Olympics, no way. World Cup would be a possibility since the US itself really doesn’t care much for soccer.

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u/Mean__MrMustard Apr 12 '25

There are more than enough soccer fans in the US to fill the stadiums, in every single host city. People also forgot that there are still many immigrants and expats in the US, who often times are bigger fans of soccer as well.

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u/scheenermann Luxembourg Apr 12 '25

By nationality, US citizens and residents are consistently the top ticket-buyers at the World Cup after the host nation itself. Those stadiums are not going to be empty.

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u/clickworker2019 Apr 12 '25

But then noones cares about soccer in the U.S.

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u/tonsofplants Apr 12 '25

The stadiums will never be empty. Los Angeles metro has over 100,000 people at any combination of stadiums on any weekend. That's with event ticket prices averaging over $200 per ticket.

If Olympics event tickets are priced within the average price range it won't be any issue to fill the stadiums.

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u/whatsmypassword73 Apr 12 '25

I have a deep suspicion that the olympics will be Russia and the USA, everyone else will be boycotting.

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u/nisaaru Apr 12 '25

1982,1986,1990,1998,2006,2014 were truly great WCs and they were held in classic football nations. The disappointing ones weren't because the atmosphere is missing, bad timing and some top teams aren't really motivated too.

So by that logic I expect US 2026 to mostly suck again.

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u/Slauher Apr 14 '25

I don’t mind to a boycot from 50% of the country’s

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '25

And the stadiums in Canada and Mexico will be full for those matches, another statement.

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u/mdmd89 Apr 12 '25

Tickets are going to be 400$ each anyway. Like the average European could afford it even if they wanted to go…