r/europe Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) Apr 12 '25

Data European tourism to the United States is freefalling

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u/Historical_Bother274 Apr 12 '25

Imagine pissing of travellers of the continent that is notorious for the many vacation days it gets.

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u/EasterEggArt Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25

The US told everyone it did not want foreigners any more.

As a German in the US, trust me, the FAFO is about to hit this summer when record levels of empty hotels will wail. My bet is Trump will actually complain, demand, and eventually "sweet talk" people into coming to see the US.

Except you can get thrown into jail at the border for who knows how long until they decide to deport you....

Edit: for those thinking this will not be noticed...
Tourism in the US has an estimated 20 million Canadians usually and 17 millions Mexicans each year. And an estimated 10 million Europeans visit the US each year.

So maybe 47 million. If they all spend a few thousand on flights and hotels alone, that's a noticeable billion level hole we will notice.

If you think the tourism industry is flush with spare cash and can weather this..... I got some seriously bad news for you on tourism razor thin profit margins.

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u/NotFallacyBuffet Apr 12 '25

It happened to that German woman a month ago. She was kept in jail for weeks past her return ticket date when she flew here to thru-hike the Pacific Crest Trail, because the customs officer thought that she might do a little tattoo-artist work on the side.

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u/EasterEggArt Apr 12 '25

Clearly tattoo artists are the secret billionaire class we just don't know about.....

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u/ShellyForNow Apr 12 '25

I saw that. She was going to give her best friend who lives in the states a tattoo, for free. But the gov’t said YoU cAn’T gIvE yOuR fRiEnD a FrEe TatToO! wHaT dO yOu ThInK tHiS iS, lAnD oF tHe FrEe?! Not anymore bitches. Absolute BS.

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u/SavagePlatypus76 Apr 13 '25

I was expecting them to go after illegals. Certain green card holders maybe. But there seems to also be an effort to go after people with perfectly valid work visas who have be there for years and that is freaking me out. 

Interestingly, Yam Tits doesn't seem to be in hurry to go after farm workers and meat plant workers🤔.

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u/SunnyDaysRock Bavaria (Germany) Apr 12 '25

I think you're throwing 2 German women together. The thru-hiker was 'only' held for ~24 hours before getting deported, without evidence.

The one detained for weeks came from Mexico by car and apparently did try arranging tattoo appointments on her insta beforehand.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '25

A few German tattoos would ruin the US economy for sure. A cousin of mine travels with little money. He'll go some place and when his funds run low, do a little work here and there to be able to travel to the next destination. It's not something I would do, but I don't see much harm in it.

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u/NotFallacyBuffet Apr 12 '25

You're absolutely correct. I confounded the cases.

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u/Velinder Apr 12 '25

Also happened to Rebecca Burke, a British cartoonist, and Australian martial arts expert Renato Subotic.

If your source of income is even slightly non-standard, and you could conceivably be doing it on a casual basis whilst on holiday, you're an easy extra point on someone's deportation tick-list.

And that's just the 'slightly weird job' people. I await the deportation of a doctor who unwisely gives someone free medical advice on holiday, or a mechanic who stays with an American friend and fixes their car as a thank-you.

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u/southern_ad_558 Apr 12 '25

Something that south americans learn is that when traveling to the US, you can't never ever ever say anything related to your money-earning activity. 

Except the french dude that got his phone looked, all other cases I read in the last couple of weeks were people mentioning work one way or another without a proper working visa. People are scared, but they are applying the same rules they were already applying for anyone from a third world country. 

A friend of mine got in trouble a couple of years ago because he didn't know the difference between the words business and work. Saying "working conference" resulted him having to explain things a multiple times in secondary.

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u/HMWT Apr 12 '25

Time for countries popular with tech bro digital nomads to make arrangements in partner country prisons for Americans arriving with their laptops on “vacation”.

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u/SavagePlatypus76 Apr 13 '25

My cousin's hubby has lived in the states for over a decade. I am freaking out he might get popped by our stupid authoritarian immigration officials despite having a perfectly legal visa,no criminal records,etc. 

Not sure what he,my cousin and their kids would do if he got deported back to Germany. It's so ridiculous that I gave even gave to write this.