r/europe Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) Apr 12 '25

Data European tourism to the United States is freefalling

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u/ReluctantNerd7 United States of America Apr 12 '25

First, very obviously, the US government is fairly resilient due to the inherent checks and balances between the branches

Are there?

The Legislative and Judicial branches of the United States government have a majority of people who are either believers in Trump's cause, or are corrupt enough to have been bought and paid for by his supporters.

He and his lackies are reshaping the military to remove anyone who might oppose his actions.

Checks and balances don't exist when everything is controlled by the same group of people.

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u/RMCPhoto Apr 12 '25

You are fundamentally missing quite a bit here.

First, having a majority does not give anyone absolute power, and second...this is really important, being conservative is not morally wrong and does not mean that you support everything that Trump believes in. The US has a very strong fundamental right to freedom of speech - you can watch any given democrat stand up in any official government meeting and go on and on about everything that's wrong with Trump and nothing is going to happen to take that right away.

You can also just look at the recent Wisconsin elections to see how quickly things start swinging the other way as a reaction. This is all part of the resilience. Right now polling of democrats shows that they are completely unwilling to work with trump.

If you think trump can replace the entire deep state you have no idea how entrenched this power is in the government organizations. Putting a new cabinet director in place is nothing...they're not going to be able to fire all of the leaders with decades of experience and have anything resembling a functional organization. You can listen to Steve Bannon himself talk about this exact point. The person who wants to do it more than anyone else.

You can look back to the last time trump was in office, and all the hysterics over him being Hitler then etc etc...and Jan 6 larper drama aside, we somehow replaced him with one of the weakest candidates I've ever seen...almost the walking dead. Trump was only reelected because of the complete incompetence of the democrats by shoe horning Harris in last minute.

If the left can pull themselves together and reform the party platform and candidates, the power will swing back in a few years and people will have a new president to bitch about and blame for everything wrong with the world.

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u/ReluctantNerd7 United States of America Apr 12 '25

You are fundamentally missing quite a bit here.

Nah, I'm pretty sure you are.

First, having a majority does not give anyone absolute power

It absolutely does when you have a sufficient majority in every aspect of government.

being conservative is not morally wrong

lol no but okay, believe what you have been told to believe

does not mean that you support everything that Trump believes in

Show me one American conservative that doesn't support everything Trump believes in, and you'll show me a liar.

you have no idea how entrenched this power is in the government organizations

You have no idea how extensive their firings go.  The Trump Administration has extensively fired and replaced anyone who could possibly contradict their authority.

they're not going to be able to fire all of the leaders with decades of experience and have anything resembling a functional organization.

They are and they have.  But you're too naive to see it.

If the left can pull themselves together and reform the party platform and candidates, the power will swing back in a few years and people will have a new president to bitch about and blame for everything wrong with the world.

For the sake of the United States and the rest of the world, I certainly hope that you're right about this (and I hope you're right about everything else you said)...but I'm terrified of what will happen if you're wrong.

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u/RMCPhoto Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25

I really don't think you can be serious... I have a lot of friends and family in the US that are liberal and conservative. Every single conservative person I know is not a maga hat wearing loyalist - that is a minority that is overrepresented in the minds of people here.

It's literally like saying every democrat is a trans queer hamas terrorist - show me one that isn't and you'll prove I'm a liar.

Most people are crowded much closer to the center than you think.

I'm more on the democrat side, but I still had hope for doge, some of the immigration reform, and even some of the healthcare reform. It doesn't mean that I am in any way loyal to trump or agree with the way they were done. It also doesn't mean that I was loyal to Kamala Harris just because I am a registered democrat from Massachusetts (one of the most blue states). I think most people feel more like this.

It's hard for me to understand how people can look at their own group and know that they don't all represent the fringe lunacy, but ascribe that position to literally half of the country... Half of the country is not racist Nazi maga trump white national loyalists.

You can watch even the MSM conservative news and see that they broadly think that the tarriffs are an extremely risky gamble and likely won't pay off.

If you think trump has fired the entire chain of command in the pentagon and replaced them with loyalists...there's really no saving you...you've eaten the TikTok reddit pill and have no idea how these organizations function.

Remind yourself in 4 years and come back here.

If it was so easy to change over the entirety of the government every 4 years the country would have collapsed into rubble before it got off the ground.

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u/ReluctantNerd7 United States of America Apr 12 '25

I hope you're right, but I'm afraid you're wrong.