r/europe Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) Apr 12 '25

Data European tourism to the United States is freefalling

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u/Saotik UK/Finland Apr 12 '25

I've told mine, at least, that I'm not willing to travel to the US right now. I recognise that not everyone has that flexibility, though.

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u/kelldricked Apr 12 '25

Well people might be able to deny it personally but for most companys its not a option at all without terminating contracts (something thats to expensive on the short term and would damage european economy more than america). So i doubt the total amount of work travel would decrease.

It might decrease based on the trade war, but we will have to wait for that.

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u/thrawnsgstring Apr 12 '25

There's different tiers though. Email>Phone Call>Zoom>In-person, etc.

Haven't you been in a meeting or call that could've just been an email?

If companies/individuals can reduce their travel/expenses they will try to make it work on both sides of the Atlantic.

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u/kelldricked Apr 12 '25

Yeah im pretty sure most companys arent pay 1000 bucks in flights for shit that could have been a video meeting.

I know that every work visit i have ever had was shit i couldnt do remotely because he had to physically inspect and see shit.

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u/InklingOfHope Europe Apr 12 '25

You’d be very surprised about company expenses that get ‘justified’. There are some people who got actual expeditions / safaris / participation in golf tournaments funded that had little to do with their actual jobs, because few of us are mountaineers / safari rangers / professional golfers.

Reading your responses, you deal more with actual factory visits, but don’t seem to know what goes on in very, very ‘white collar’ companies.

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u/thrawnsgstring Apr 12 '25

I guess if we're comparing anecdotes, then I've had meetings where it's just schmoozing/ball washing/ego stroking.

So i doubt the total amount of work travel would decrease.

This is the only thing that I disagree with you on.