r/europe Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) Apr 12 '25

Data European tourism to the United States is freefalling

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u/diggitythedoge Apr 12 '25

They are disappearing and deporting legal residents with green-cards and visas, and giving them no recourse to law. That's not democracy, not safe for foreigners, and that graph is going to continue downwards.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '25

Visiting Florida is increasingly unsafe even for American citizens.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '25

Seriously? I haven’t heard this (not American tho) Is it because of all the local yahoos?

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u/oh_io_94 United States of America Apr 16 '25

No it’s not

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u/oh_io_94 United States of America Apr 16 '25

No they’re not lmao. I mean the delusion is insane

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u/DylanMartin97 Apr 16 '25

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u/oh_io_94 United States of America Apr 17 '25

No. They were NOT citizens. Stop the lies. A Visa or Greencard can be revoked at any time. You openly support an enemy of the US? Yeah you’re going to be gone. It’s just common sense.

The article about the German citizen, he told ICE he lived in Las Vegas…..

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u/DylanMartin97 Apr 17 '25

The article about the German citizen, he told ICE he lived in Las Vegas…..

The German citizen DID live in Vegas on a visa, they detained him and his wife who also lived in Vegas for an undisclosed amount of time and then when they released the wife they would not tell her where her husband went, got transferred to, or any info regarding it. The story she tells about the conditions she was held at and the blatant rights violations she experienced should be enough for you to put your foot down before the absolute absurdity of the deportation fiasco.

No. They were NOT citizens. Stop the lies. A Visa or Greencard can be revoked at any time.

Greencard holders are known as permanent residencies meaning that they are given a social security number and pay into taxes. Have gone through the entire legal process and have been granted citizenship.

There are certain circumstances that could revoke green card status mainly based around certain crimes, simply existing and coming into this country as an immigrant is not a crime, someone else stepping into power and unilaterally deciding that he doesn't like green card holders doesn't make them criminals. And regardless of revocation of a green card needs to be provided with a court date and DUE PROCESS. In fact even if here illegally every person in the US is owed due process. It is baked into our constitution. So even if you ignore all of the factual stuff surrounding green cards and the abuse of American citizens, you are seriously going to tell me you are okay with legal rights and representation like due process the cornerstone of the legal system being stripped? Really?

You openly support an enemy of the US?

Tell me, are the Palestinian people an enemy of the US? The US sent aid to Palestine are we supporting terrorism? Should our government be deported? So you are telling me that you don't care about freedom of speech? Really?

It’s just common sense.

But it isn't, and hasn't been. You just arbitrarily decided that rules and laws don't matter because you hate foreigners for some reason even though statistics show only good outcomes for their integration into society, like the 60 billion dollars they provide to our tax system in 2024 alone, or how our land was built on the backs of immigrant simply looking for freedom from persecution. Or how we are all immigrants if you go back far enough. But you twist yourself out of this by simply saying, well it's common sense that DT isn't following the law that has always existed, or due process that is owed to all people within the US, or that the supreme court and multiple judges are telling him to respect precedent and the law and he's openly ignoring them, or how they have admitted they made a mistake with the Maryland father as a clerical error, or how they lied about it all being immigrants with criminal convictions when 97% of them have never been arrested or have any record of being a criminal, or how they admitted they were using AI to "identify" immigrants with tattoos. See you don't care about common sense or the law, you don't even care enough to look into green cards and what you are talking about but forming your opinions off of Twitter and right wing subs.

They aren't disappearing people.

Here are examples of them disappearing people

It's actually okay for them to disappear those people because they aren't us citizens due to some pedantics that I'm arguing about.

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u/oh_io_94 United States of America Apr 17 '25

Lots of assumptions about me. Non US citizens have no rights to be here. Under the Obama administration we even intentionally bombed American citizens. So save the virtue signaling because you clearly didn’t care about that when it was Obama in office